Next Reading Manager

[Snowflake Royal]

Think we all agree, we want the best manager, regardless of colour, nationality and Parky.

It's nice to be a club giving a chance to a black manager who got written off previously. We're joining the ranks of those supporting making management more representative of the racial diversity in the fan and player base.

If you (general, not you spizz) don't recognise that there is a problem in black people not being properly represented in football management, you might want to check your bias. Because it's a problem and needs addressing.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Well yes….hopefully, we all agree

[SouthDownsRoyal]

So many unknowns, who knows, had Pauno had a fully fit favourite XI for the season where would we be? I’m sure not where we are now, not a Pauno fan boy but it’s hard to draw comparisons as it’s comparing apples with pears.

Ince has done well and Almost certainly we are in a better place now than we would have been had Pauno still been in charge but hard to draw comparisons

I did like the players and Ince showing some passion after the sheff utd game, not seen that for some time

[AthleticoSpizz]

In full agreement SDR, but at the ‘turning point’ where Ince took over, Pauno had scabbed 4 points from his last two games….and then the squad availability was somewhere where a successful team should be…where we could’ve have been (with that squad availability)?

That’s my only reservation with Ince, but he’s done great, seemed to have got our team playing as a team.

Onwards and upwards

[Millsy]

Better than Pauno would've been or not? Irrelevant at this stage

Will he be really good for us next season? Noone knows

Is Dai sane enough and are we attractive enough to have attracted/potentially be able to get any decent alternatives that hiring him would displace? You must be kidding.

So has he shown enough and done enough to at least be given a trial chance for next season until Xmas or so? As things stand, I think so yes.

[Royal_jimmy]

Let's offer Ince a 1 year deal with a view to another year. He's been solid and deserves first dibs if he wants it

[Snowflake Royal]

So many unknowns, who knows, had Pauno had a fully fit favourite XI for the season where would we be? I’m sure not where we are now, not a Pauno fan boy but it’s hard to draw comparisons as it’s comparing apples with pears.

Ince has done well and Almost certainly we are in a better place now than we would have been had Pauno still been in charge but hard to draw comparisons

I did like the players and Ince showing some passion after the sheff utd game, not seen that for some time

Pauno had Holmes, Morrison, Yiadom, Rahman, Drinkwater and Laurent available most of the season. That's the core of the defensive side.

And we conceded goals left right and centre under him.

Same players under Ince for the most part - or back up to them - bar a couple of early disasters, have conceded far fewer goals.

Yes Paunovic had to play some games with Ashcroft and Bristow together at full back. But only about 2 or 3.

Paunovic benefited from Bowen's good work, but was a poor manager who created an unfit, unbalanced squad, misused his resources and did nothing to solve his problems.

Look at Holmes and Morrison. Under Paunovic Morrison was no good having fallen off and age cliff and Holmes wasn't up to L1 according to some of our fans. Under Ince they're plenty good enough.

[From Despair To Where?]

I'd rather have Morrison signing a 1 year contract than Dann. Nothing against Dann but he arrived unfit and has stuggled with fitness pretty much all season. Morrison, on the other hand, has had an impact at both ends of the pitch and now looks as solid as ever.

[Felt91]

Would like to see a young manager given a go with what will be a young squad next year. Maybe Steven Reid might fancy a go as the top man rather then back room staff. Get John o Shea back in as well. Would be happy with that and gilkes and one other Mayb.

[Hound]

I do find it slightly strange that people suggest another leap into the unknown with another (untried) manager

Ince so far has done everything asked of him and more. Certainly would be handing out the contract now, but assuming this time next week we’re safe, I’m not sure why we wouldn’t offer him the role

I’m not expecting him to be a brilliant tactician etc but as a fire fighter (and he’ll be doing that again next year) he has done the job so far

[Snowflake Royal]

I'd rather have Morrison signing a 1 year contract than Dann. Nothing against Dann but he arrived unfit and has stuggled with fitness pretty much all season. Morrison, on the other hand, has had an impact at both ends of the pitch and now looks as solid as ever.

Preach.

[fartdad]

When Ince was brought on it was irrelevant to his tenor if we stayed up or not. He’s not the answer just a stop gap need to bring in someone with experience to steady the ship. I think a good shout and available manager is Ian Holloway. He’s been here and done it with other team. Players respect him and so do fans.

[AthleticoSpizz]

…speak to Grimsby fans

[Snowflake Royal]

When Ince was brought on it was irrelevant to his tenor if we stayed up or not. He’s not the answer just a stop gap need to bring in someone with experience to steady the ship. I think a good shout and available manager is Ian Holloway. He’s been here and done it with other team. Players respect him and so do fans.

Don't mind Holloway personally (not as a manager for us, but in general), but I think you're kidding yourself if you think our fans respect him.

He’s lost more games than he’s won at every club he’s been at since Blackpool in 2012. He last failed at Grimsby in L2. And prior to that at QPR his record was to lose half of his 80 games in the Championship.

Holloway is an awful choice. Absolutely rancid.

[AthleticoSpizz]

….and not for the first time today that our ‘stateside’ friend has spoken more clueless bs than a beef-stock slurry tank.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

If Ince wants it, it's his.

Players seem to want to play for him, he may even persuade some to stay who may not have wanted to and likely still has some good contacts for loans etc.

My view is he may not be perfect but is probably best for where we are now. It may just be the kind of relationship that suits all parties.

I'm not saying this is note true, but players are also performing for their Championship status as well as futures at the club as well, that probably plays a part. Not to go against the job Ince has done so far, he's been at the helm, but it would be interesting to see how we'd react should we survive and he gets the job full time, that would give us a clearer indication at least anyway of who/what the players are fighting for.

I'm sorry but I find this argument come up time and again, how it is the players who gave stepped it up - not just now but this is essentially a re-hash of the we won despite the manager not due to him, yet when we lose it is because the manager didn't do X or Y.

Ince has tightened up the defence, got us stopping crosses and actually playing like a team. This squad has known all season that they may well move on this summer, if they had performed as they have over the last few weeks all season, then the offers they may get would have been a hell of a lot better.

Ince has done a great job in getting these players to play like team not 11 blokes looking at their next move, at a time when that move is only a few games away. He deserves credit and part of that is getting the players to buy into what he wants them to do.

By the logic of that we may as well have kept VP as the players would eventually have performed.

As I say, it's not a criticism of Ince, I think there is just more than one factor to our form. We did win our last game under Pauno, we weren't just going to keep losing forever even with him in charge, but of course I'm aware we had to make a change as well.

But look at the manager at Barnsley, poor as anything since he arrived but then managed to win 3 games in 5 to give themselves some sort of fight against relegation. Although it looks to be in vein, they still managed to improve performances and results under a manager that showed no signs of improving in any of his games previous. So I do think it is a factor that players will improve performances and results towards the end of the season in a relegation battle, no matter who is in charge, but of course it varies from club to club. You could argue against that by saying Hull from 2 seasons ago, but, as I say, it varies from club to club, but it can be a factor I think.

It's not to criticise what Ince has done, all those pro's you've mentioned have happened since he has come in and he deserves praise for that as well as our improved performances and results, but I do think our performances and results would have improved anyway, but maybe not to what we have seen recently.

[karbota]

When Ince was brought on it was irrelevant to his tenor if we stayed up or not. He’s not the answer just a stop gap need to bring in someone with experience to steady the ship. I think a good shout and available manager is Ian Holloway. He’s been here and done it with other team. Players respect him and so do fans.

Nah too old and jaded, we need a new fresh young rising talent such as Phil Parkinson also was a legend at the club. Can you imagine if he could team up with Mad Dog Allen those lazy sulky prima-donnas wouldn't know if their arseoles were punched or bored!

[Stranded]

I'm not saying this is note true, but players are also performing for their Championship status as well as futures at the club as well, that probably plays a part. Not to go against the job Ince has done so far, he's been at the helm, but it would be interesting to see how we'd react should we survive and he gets the job full time, that would give us a clearer indication at least anyway of who/what the players are fighting for.

I'm sorry but I find this argument come up time and again, how it is the players who gave stepped it up - not just now but this is essentially a re-hash of the we won despite the manager not due to him, yet when we lose it is because the manager didn't do X or Y.

Ince has tightened up the defence, got us stopping crosses and actually playing like a team. This squad has known all season that they may well move on this summer, if they had performed as they have over the last few weeks all season, then the offers they may get would have been a hell of a lot better.

Ince has done a great job in getting these players to play like team not 11 blokes looking at their next move, at a time when that move is only a few games away. He deserves credit and part of that is getting the players to buy into what he wants them to do.

By the logic of that we may as well have kept VP as the players would eventually have performed.

As I say, it's not a criticism of Ince, I think there is just more than one factor to our form. We did win our last game under Pauno, we weren't just going to keep losing forever even with him in charge, but of course I'm aware we had to make a change as well.

But look at the manager at Barnsley, poor as anything since he arrived but then managed to win 3 games in 5 to give themselves some sort of fight against relegation. Although it looks to be in vein, they still managed to improve performances and results under a manager that showed no signs of improving in any of his games previous. So I do think it is a factor that players will improve performances and results towards the end of the season in a relegation battle, no matter who is in charge, but of course it varies from club to club. You could argue against that by saying Hull from 2 seasons ago, but, as I say, it varies from club to club, but it can be a factor I think.

It's not to criticise what Ince has done, all those pro's you've mentioned have happened since he has come in and he deserves praise for that as well as our improved performances and results, but I do think our performances and results would have improved anyway, but maybe not to what we have seen recently.

Unfortunately Barnsley disprove your point more than make it I think. They had a purple patch winning 3 of 4 in February. Since then, at the time you would expect results to tick up if players are the main drive, they've gone 1 win in 8.

That run looks just like an anomaly and they have since returned to their mean -i.e. just a bit shit.

[Ascotexgunner]

Why people suggest a "young manager" is beyond me.
With all the restrictions next season I want one that's just gonna keep us up. We need experience in the relegation area.
I'd stick with Ince if he wants it. Done ok, and I can't see the point on gambling on another manager.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I'm sorry but I find this argument come up time and again, how it is the players who gave stepped it up - not just now but this is essentially a re-hash of the we won despite the manager not due to him, yet when we lose it is because the manager didn't do X or Y.

Ince has tightened up the defence, got us stopping crosses and actually playing like a team. This squad has known all season that they may well move on this summer, if they had performed as they have over the last few weeks all season, then the offers they may get would have been a hell of a lot better.

Ince has done a great job in getting these players to play like team not 11 blokes looking at their next move, at a time when that move is only a few games away. He deserves credit and part of that is getting the players to buy into what he wants them to do.

By the logic of that we may as well have kept VP as the players would eventually have performed.

As I say, it's not a criticism of Ince, I think there is just more than one factor to our form. We did win our last game under Pauno, we weren't just going to keep losing forever even with him in charge, but of course I'm aware we had to make a change as well.

But look at the manager at Barnsley, poor as anything since he arrived but then managed to win 3 games in 5 to give themselves some sort of fight against relegation. Although it looks to be in vein, they still managed to improve performances and results under a manager that showed no signs of improving in any of his games previous. So I do think it is a factor that players will improve performances and results towards the end of the season in a relegation battle, no matter who is in charge, but of course it varies from club to club. You could argue against that by saying Hull from 2 seasons ago, but, as I say, it varies from club to club, but it can be a factor I think.

It's not to criticise what Ince has done, all those pro's you've mentioned have happened since he has come in and he deserves praise for that as well as our improved performances and results, but I do think our performances and results would have improved anyway, but maybe not to what we have seen recently.

Unfortunately Barnsley disprove your point more than make it I think. They had a purple patch winning 3 of 4 in February. Since then, at the time you would expect results to tick up if players are the main drive, they've gone 1 win in 8.

That run looks just like an anomaly and they have since returned to their mean -i.e. just a bit shit.

Possibly they will be, but the season isn't over yet as there are 5 more games to go and the longer they stay in with a chance of surviving, the harder it could get for us if we don't pick up he necessary results. Not that it should happen, not that I think it will either, but let's not be thinking it's done because we assume the bottom teams won't collect the results because of where they are, they will fight for anything they can get.