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Re: Next Reading Manager

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 21 Apr 2022 12:21

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YorkshireRoyal99 You don't "need" your assistant manager to have coaching experience, but considering they will potentially lead some coaching sessions, you would want your assistant manager to have some sort of relevant coaching experience, I just wouldn't feel comfortable with an assistant manager who doesn't have the relevant experience in a trusted role.

I don't doubt McAnuff would do that, but I'm not sure he's got the relevant experience that would significantly improve our coaching staff. As mentioned, I wouldn't want to split the Ince/Rae partnership, I'd just tweak Gilkes of Leigertwood personally speaking that may allow one of them to go back into the academy under a better role which may allow us to bring in 1/2 more experienced coaching staff with quality.

Why does he need to lead sessions? There are many coaches at the club who can do this. You point (as per usual) is irrelevant anyway in this instance. Jobi McAnuff has managerial experience and coaching experience.


Because he's part of the coaching team, maybe...

:roll: If you actually read what I'd put, my point was does he have significantly more coaching and/or managerial experience than our current staff members that would be an improvement. But again, as said, we don't actually know if this is an area that needs improving, I'd just feel as if our coaching team could do better with another experienced coach in there. McAnuff isn't what I'd class as experienced personally speaking.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by NathStPaul » 21 Apr 2022 12:24

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YorkshireRoyal99 You don't "need" your assistant manager to have coaching experience, but considering they will potentially lead some coaching sessions, you would want your assistant manager to have some sort of relevant coaching experience, I just wouldn't feel comfortable with an assistant manager who doesn't have the relevant experience in a trusted role.

I don't doubt McAnuff would do that, but I'm not sure he's got the relevant experience that would significantly improve our coaching staff. As mentioned, I wouldn't want to split the Ince/Rae partnership, I'd just tweak Gilkes of Leigertwood personally speaking that may allow one of them to go back into the academy under a better role which may allow us to bring in 1/2 more experienced coaching staff with quality.

Why does he need to lead sessions? There are many coaches at the club who can do this. You point (as per usual) is irrelevant anyway in this instance. Jobi McAnuff has managerial experience and coaching experience.


Because he's part of the coaching team, maybe...

:roll: If you actually read what I'd put, my point was does he have significantly more coaching and/or managerial experience than our current staff members that would be an improvement. But again, as said, we don't actually know if this is an area that needs improving, I'd just feel as if our coaching team could do better with another experienced coach in there. McAnuff isn't what I'd class as experienced personally speaking.

I do try to read it but your posts are normally the length of War and Peace so I tend to nod off after the first line of your 10 paragraph drawn out ramblings.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 21 Apr 2022 12:30

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NathStPaul Why does he need to lead sessions? There are many coaches at the club who can do this. You point (as per usual) is irrelevant anyway in this instance. Jobi McAnuff has managerial experience and coaching experience.


Because he's part of the coaching team, maybe...

:roll: If you actually read what I'd put, my point was does he have significantly more coaching and/or managerial experience than our current staff members that would be an improvement. But again, as said, we don't actually know if this is an area that needs improving, I'd just feel as if our coaching team could do better with another experienced coach in there. McAnuff isn't what I'd class as experienced personally speaking.

I do try to read it but your posts are normally the length of War and Peace so I tend to nod off after the first line of your 10 paragraph drawn out ramblings.


That's your problem then ultimately.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Snowflake Royal » 21 Apr 2022 13:05

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From Despair To Where? No need to get defensive. I mean, you're kind of labouring the non point then, aren't you? A non point that's been shown to be naive and inaccurate.


Statistically speaking, the 3rd best manager in the PL era is "No Manager" i.e. Caretaker/Interim manager or whatever you want to call them. They are only behind Fergie and Wenger.

That's probably the single stupidiest stat I've read on here, and we've had snowball for years!

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by NathStPaul » 21 Apr 2022 13:06

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From Despair To Where? No need to get defensive. I mean, you're kind of labouring the non point then, aren't you? A non point that's been shown to be naive and inaccurate.


Statistically speaking, the 3rd best manager in the PL era is "No Manager" i.e. Caretaker/Interim manager or whatever you want to call them. They are only behind Fergie and Wenger.

That's probably the single stupidiest stat I've read on here, and we've had snowball for years!

Actual LOL.


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Snowflake Royal » 21 Apr 2022 13:06

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I’m impressed by your self deprecation.....

You're not allowed to enter if you won it the year previously.

Or if you've already won the lifetime achievement award in the same category. 8)

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by NathStPaul » 21 Apr 2022 13:07

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I’m impressed by your self deprecation.....

You're not allowed to enter if you won it the year previously.

Or if you've already won the lifetime achievement award in the same category. 8)

It is actually called 'The Ian'. :D

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by From Despair To Where? » 21 Apr 2022 13:07

I presume that stat was compiled pre Klopp and Pep.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Franchise FC » 21 Apr 2022 13:13

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From Despair To Where? No need to get defensive. I mean, you're kind of labouring the non point then, aren't you? A non point that's been shown to be naive and inaccurate.


Statistically speaking, the 3rd best manager in the PL era is "No Manager" i.e. Caretaker/Interim manager or whatever you want to call them. They are only behind Fergie and Wenger.

That's probably the single stupidiest stat I've read on here, and we've had snowball for years!

It gave us a bit of a laugh though, trying to find some stat that would put ‘interim/caretaker’ in third place

Tried wins, titles, win percentage, points per game

We reckon points per £ (manager’s wage that is) might, just might have got it


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Snowflake Royal » 21 Apr 2022 13:13

I adore Jobi.

The idea he can come in and improve Ince's management team as assistant, demoting or removing Ince's first choice, Rae, is so baffling to me I assumed it was a joke.

McAnuff has 16 games of management experience ffs! Big wow.

If we need any additions it's an experienced coach to support Gilkes , Rae and Legs, or medical staff.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Franchise FC » 21 Apr 2022 13:14

Snowflake Royal I adore Jobi.

The idea he can come in and improve Ince's management team as assistant, demoting or removing Ince's first choice, Rae, is so baffling to me I assumed it was a joke.

McAnuff has 16 games of management experience ffs! Big wow.

If we need any additions it's an experienced coach to support Gilkes , Rae and Legs, or medical staff.

My vote would definitely go with medical staff, given our recent track record

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by From Despair To Where? » 21 Apr 2022 13:16

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Statistically speaking, the 3rd best manager in the PL era is "No Manager" i.e. Caretaker/Interim manager or whatever you want to call them. They are only behind Fergie and Wenger.

That's probably the single stupidiest stat I've read on here, and we've had snowball for years!

It gave us a bit of a laugh though, trying to find some stat that would put ‘interim/caretaker’ in third place

Tried wins, titles, win percentage, points per game

We reckon points per £ (manager’s wage that is) might, just might have got it


Points per days in charge
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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Franchise FC » 21 Apr 2022 13:17

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Snowflake Royal That's probably the single stupidiest stat I've read on here, and we've had snowball for years!

It gave us a bit of a laugh though, trying to find some stat that would put ‘interim/caretaker’ in third place

Tried wins, titles, win percentage, points per game

We reckon points per £ (manager’s wage that is) might, just might have got it


Points per day in charge

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Can’t believe we missed such an obvious one


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Dirk Gently » 21 Apr 2022 13:25

Snowflake Royal I adore Jobi.

The idea he can come in and improve Ince's management team as assistant, demoting or removing Ince's first choice, Rae, is so baffling to me I assumed it was a joke.

McAnuff has 16 games of management experience ffs! Big wow.

If we need any additions it's an experienced coach to support Gilkes , Rae and Legs, or medical staff.


He also seems to be getting his feet nicely under the table with Sky Sports. If I had the choice between an insecure coaching role at a mediocre club or a nice cushy number in the media I know what I'd opt for.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by RoyalBlue » 21 Apr 2022 13:29

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Snowflake Royal I adore Jobi.

The idea he can come in and improve Ince's management team as assistant, demoting or removing Ince's first choice, Rae, is so baffling to me I assumed it was a joke.

McAnuff has 16 games of management experience ffs! Big wow.

If we need any additions it's an experienced coach to support Gilkes , Rae and Legs, or medical staff.


He also seems to be getting his feet nicely under the table with Sky Sports. If I had the choice between an insecure coaching role at a mediocre club or a nice cushy number in the media I know what I'd opt for.


I guess it might depend on how much money he banked as a player. I think many people would be surprised at what people in sports media are paid. My understanding is that, big names aside, it's not that great. A management/coaching job may be insecure but pays pretty well whilst people are in it and, more often than not, a nice lump sum if and when they are kicked out!

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Whore Jackie » 21 Apr 2022 13:47

Love Jobi too, but other than those 16 interim games, has he actually intimated that he wants go into management? Looks pretty sorted with his media work. Would love to know what ex-pros get paid as pundits. Presumably the top-level Shearer, Ferdinand, Neville etc get paid a fortune, but wonder how much those that do the EFL games on Sky, Quest etc get.

Assuming Ince gets it, I'd be amazed if he didn't bring in someone he already knows. Gilkes and Ledge were perfect in terms of knowing the Club and Academy inside-out and being one step away from the Pauno regime. Surely they'll both go back and work alongside Noel Hunt, and Ince will have his own men. GK coach may well stay, he's been here a fair while. Wouldn't be against John O'Shea coming back either TBH.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 21 Apr 2022 14:13

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From Despair To Where? No need to get defensive. I mean, you're kind of labouring the non point then, aren't you? A non point that's been shown to be naive and inaccurate.


Statistically speaking, the 3rd best manager in the PL era is "No Manager" i.e. Caretaker/Interim manager or whatever you want to call them. They are only behind Fergie and Wenger.

That's probably the single stupidiest stat I've read on here, and we've had snowball for years!


It was an article on The Athletic back when Solsjkaer was sacked which was titled "Do Manchester United actually need a manager?".

It was actually done through a period from 2004-2009, hence the Wenger/Fergie connection, which showed that "No Manager" was actually just below those 2. Ironically, this study (done in 2013) was done at the University of Reading which studied the period from 2004-2009, which showed that the only managers that had done better than expected during this period were Mourinho, Moyes and "No Manager".

So I've got my wires crossed with the PL era part, but the article dates back to November of last year. I thought it was rather interesting personally speaking.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Hound » 21 Apr 2022 16:00

Jobi’s a decent pundit isn’t he? Sensible and knowledgable. Compared to some of the buffoons on there he is pretty strong - so I reckon he’ll end up getting a fair bit of work

I wonder how experienced coaches need to be. I assume they don’t have to deal with the management of players pain, just set up decent sessions to work on the things the boss wants to work on

Might almost be better for someone who has recently come out of the playing side but has been working on his badges for the last few years

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Hendo » 21 Apr 2022 16:12

Hound Jobi’s a decent pundit isn’t he? Sensible and knowledgable. Compared to some of the buffoons on there he is pretty strong - so I reckon he’ll end up getting a fair bit of work

I wonder how experienced coaches need to be. I assume they don’t have to deal with the management of players pain, just set up decent sessions to work on the things the boss wants to work on

Might almost be better for someone who has recently come out of the playing side but has been working on his badges for the last few years


Really wouldn't be against getting John O'Shea back - our form seemed to fall off a cliff when he left.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Weymouth Royal » 21 Apr 2022 16:23

Interestingly I've just seen that Brian Tevreden tried to bring Ten Haag in as manager but we wouldn't pay the £300k required to get him. We got Stam instead...

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