Next Reading Manager

[Stranded]

That’s what I was looking at.
We seem to be interpreting it differently in places !

Maybe but the ruling is probably purposely vague - the club will know what the limit is and if that is cumulative or per deal and also if player sales will make any difference. What that limit is won't of course be published.

Wouldn't surprise me if there is some form of agreement that says if we bring in X in fees we can spend say 40% of that on fees etc. So say we sell Puscas for 5m, but we only see 2m of that in 22/23 due to installments being paid later, then we can spend 800k on transfer/loan/compensation fees.

[Nameless]

That’s what I was looking at.
We seem to be interpreting it differently in places !

Maybe but the ruling is probably purposely vague - the club will know what the limit is and if that is cumulative or per deal and also if player sales will make any difference. What that limit is won't of course be published.

Wouldn't surprise me if there is some form of agreement that says if we bring in X in fees we can spend say 40% of that on fees etc. So say we sell Puscas for 5m, but we only see 2m of that in 22/23 due to installments being paid later, then we can spend 800k on transfer/loan/compensation fees.

I think it more likely there is a constant review of progress against the business plan. If we have reduced costs by more than anticipated that means more of any income is ‘spare’ to go into the transfer pot. The top priority is to hit the business plan milestones every month until the end of next season as we lose 6 more points (minimum) if we don’t. We don’t need to spend any money on transfers, it’s a luxury.

[Stranded]

That’s what I was looking at.
We seem to be interpreting it differently in places !

Maybe but the ruling is probably purposely vague - the club will know what the limit is and if that is cumulative or per deal and also if player sales will make any difference. What that limit is won't of course be published.

Wouldn't surprise me if there is some form of agreement that says if we bring in X in fees we can spend say 40% of that on fees etc. So say we sell Puscas for 5m, but we only see 2m of that in 22/23 due to installments being paid later, then we can spend 800k on transfer/loan/compensation fees.

I think it more likely there is a constant review of progress against the business plan. If we have reduced costs by more than anticipated that means more of any income is ‘spare’ to go into the transfer pot. The top priority is to hit the business plan milestones every month until the end of next season as we lose 6 more points (minimum) if we don’t. We don’t need to spend any money on transfers, it’s a luxury.

We're not disagreeing. I fully expect our transfer outgoings to be 0 or very close too but just stating the rules allow us to if the EFL have sanctioned an acceptable level.

I'm pretty sure next year we could only lose a maximum of 6 as previous losses have now been averaged out at 13m, so if we breach that this year, just the 6 get removed.

[Nameless]

Maybe but the ruling is probably purposely vague - the club will know what the limit is and if that is cumulative or per deal and also if player sales will make any difference. What that limit is won't of course be published.

Wouldn't surprise me if there is some form of agreement that says if we bring in X in fees we can spend say 40% of that on fees etc. So say we sell Puscas for 5m, but we only see 2m of that in 22/23 due to installments being paid later, then we can spend 800k on transfer/loan/compensation fees.

I think it more likely there is a constant review of progress against the business plan. If we have reduced costs by more than anticipated that means more of any income is ‘spare’ to go into the transfer pot. The top priority is to hit the business plan milestones every month until the end of next season as we lose 6 more points (minimum) if we don’t. We don’t need to spend any money on transfers, it’s a luxury.

We're not disagreeing. I fully expect our transfer outgoings to be 0 or very close too but just stating the rules allow us to if the EFL have sanctioned an acceptable level.

I'm pretty sure next year we could only lose a maximum of 6 as previous losses have now been averaged out at 13m, so if we breach that this year, just the 6 get removed.

See clause 7. Specifically allows for additional deductions. Otherwise we could just spend crazily knowing we’d not get punished beyond the suspension being activated.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I have said this before if not Paul Ince, I’d go for Liam Manning at MK Dons. I guess if they get promoted he wouldn’t want to come here. I have heard him interviewed on several occasions and he really reminds me of Eddie Howe. I believe he could be a great fit for us especially if we go down the route of signing young hungry players on loan or from Div 1 and 2 etc.

I have also said this is the type of appointment we should be going for. Someone whose stock is rising currently.

As said by others, I can't see us paying compensation for a manager this summer and I don't think he'd come to us if MK Dons went up either.

[From Despair To Where?]

What might happen a year or two in the future really isn’t important in terms of sorting contracts now.
I’d be extremely surprised if Rino is on 2k and if he is we have no chance of resigning him.

I posted figures for the whole squad. In the source I used, Rinomhota was on £3,500 p/w.

That contract was signed in February 2019 just as he broke into the first team. Not an outlandish figure in the circumstances.

If he's being linked to continental teams who's top earners are on £6,000 p/w, there's every reason to think he may resign on £8-9,000 p/w

If we shift Moore, and Puscas goes, Joao will be our top earner on £15,000 p/w (and is good value for that IMO) with Ejaria and Meite the only other players on more than £10,000 p/w. Having 7 or 8 1st teamers on £10-12,000 a week is realistically where we should be as a Championship club.

[Nameless]

What might happen a year or two in the future really isn’t important in terms of sorting contracts now.
I’d be extremely surprised if Rino is on 2k and if he is we have no chance of resigning him.

I posted figures for the whole squad. In the source I used, Rinomhota was on £3,500 p/w.

That contract was signed in February 2019 just as he broke into the first team. Not an outlandish figure in the circumstances.

If he's being linked to continental teams who's top earners are on £6,000 p/w, there's every reason to think he may resign on £8-9,000 p/w

If we shift Moore, and Puscas goes, Joao will be our top earner on £15,000 p/w (and is good value for that IMO) with Ejaria and Meite the only other players on more than £10,000 p/w. Having 7 or 8 1st teamers on £10-12,000 a week is realistically where we should be as a Championship club.

And would fit within the £16 million budget.....

[From Despair To Where?]

Exactly. I honestly dont think its as doom and gloom as people are suggesting. We just have to stop throwing £20,000+ p/w contracts at players.

[NathStPaul]

*Carlos Carvalhal linked with Reading job klaxon*

[PATRIQT]

Yes please, but will come here for peanuts? I'd take him over Ince definitely.

[NathStPaul]

Yes please, but will come here for peanuts? I'd take him over Ince definitely.

He has done a pretty good job with Braga, have to think bigger clubs than us will be looking at him. I think he would be interested in working in England and the Championship again for sure though.

[Stranded]

He is out of contract in the summer so if Ince isn't staying then he could be a relatively cheap option.

Braga is the only club he has stayed at for 2 seasons beyond Wednesday though, so would hardly scream long term plan. Only stayed at Braga this year as his contract had a €10m clause in it to essentially stop him going to another club.

[morganb]

All the article says is "SunSports understands... Reading could be one option for Carvalhal" - what clubs in the Championship are currently without a manager/only have a interim manager? Reading and ...?

[YorkshireRoyal99]

He's done well with Braga and is seemingly on the rise again after a good spell there after failing to keep Swansea up. Would be a gamble for any PL side, his next move might be somewhere in Spain.

[PATRIQT]

He is out of contract in the summer so if Ince isn't staying then he could be a relatively cheap option.

Braga is the only club he has stayed at for 2 seasons beyond Wednesday though, so would hardly scream long term plan. Only stayed at Braga this year as his contract had a €10m clause in it to essentially stop him going to another club.

That's OK, we'll sack him by December anyway.

[Nameless]

All the article says is "SunSports understands... Reading could be one option for Carvalhal" - what clubs in the Championship are currently without a manager/only have a interim manager? Reading and ...?

Technically Barnsley......

[Pepe the Horseman]

He's had 19 jobs since 1998. Basically a slightly better Jose Gomes.

[Snowflake Royal]

I think it more likely there is a constant review of progress against the business plan. If we have reduced costs by more than anticipated that means more of any income is ‘spare’ to go into the transfer pot. The top priority is to hit the business plan milestones every month until the end of next season as we lose 6 more points (minimum) if we don’t. We don’t need to spend any money on transfers, it’s a luxury.

We're not disagreeing. I fully expect our transfer outgoings to be 0 or very close too but just stating the rules allow us to if the EFL have sanctioned an acceptable level.

I'm pretty sure next year we could only lose a maximum of 6 as previous losses have now been averaged out at 13m, so if we breach that this year, just the 6 get removed.

See clause 7. Specifically allows for additional deductions. Otherwise we could just spend crazily knowing we’d not get punished beyond the suspension being activated.

I'd assume the 6 is automatic and then we probably get 9 / 12 on top for the new breach.

I assume you can't win the lowest points record by including deductions?

[Nameless]

We're not disagreeing. I fully expect our transfer outgoings to be 0 or very close too but just stating the rules allow us to if the EFL have sanctioned an acceptable level.

I'm pretty sure next year we could only lose a maximum of 6 as previous losses have now been averaged out at 13m, so if we breach that this year, just the 6 get removed.

See clause 7. Specifically allows for additional deductions. Otherwise we could just spend crazily knowing we’d not get punished beyond the suspension being activated.

I'd assume the 6 is automatic and then we probably get 9 / 12 on top for the new breach.

I assume you can't win the lowest points record by including deductions?

I read it that the suspended deduction can be activated for a number of reasons, 1 of which would be breaching spending limits again. That breach would also attract a fresh punishment which would be at least 12 points.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

He's had 19 jobs since 1998. Basically a slightly better Jose Gomes.

Yep and surprise surprise his agent is Kia. Will probably happen and that scumbag will bleed even more money from us.