Rival Watch

[Rax]

By how much do the parachute payments drop off between the second and third seasons out of the Premier League. Will it be shit or bust for WBA next season?

Nothing against WBA as a club and fan base as they’ve always seemed alright to me, much better than Wulfs up the road, but is this a bit of a gamble?

Personally, with Steve Bruce in charge and Ron Gormless flashing the cash, I think they are fooked!

[Sutekh]

By how much do the parachute payments drop off between the second and third seasons out of the Premier League. Will it be shit or bust for WBA next season?

Nothing against WBA as a club and fan base as they’ve always seemed alright to me, much better than Wulfs up the road, but is this a bit of a gamble?

Last season WBA received a payment 55% of what they would have got through the PL TV deal payment (worth approx £40m I think) and this season they’ll get a payment worth about 45% of the TV deal.

However this season will be their second and final parachute payment following their relegation as they were only in the PL for 1 season before being relegated.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

By how much do the parachute payments drop off between the second and third seasons out of the Premier League. Will it be shit or bust for WBA next season?

Nothing against WBA as a club and fan base as they’ve always seemed alright to me, much better than Wulfs up the road, but is this a bit of a gamble?

Last season WBA received a payment 55% of what they would have got through the PL TV deal payment (worth approx £40m I think) and this season they’ll get a payment worth about 45% of the TV deal.

However this season will be their second and final parachute payment following their relegation as they were only in the PL for 1 season before being relegated.

So it does seem to very much all or nothing for them this season then. Risky given they've likely handed premium contracts to the likes of Swift, Wallace and Lawrence, granted they were all on frees but it will massively hike their wage bill up, particularly for next season.

[windermereROYAL]

Should only get 1 payment if they come straight back down.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Sunderland are set to sign Daniel Ballard from Arsenal, previously under interest from Burnley.

Brentford have made a £20m offer for Hull's Keane Lewis-Potter.

Hull will have done well to have coined in £45m for Bowen & KLP, that's assuming they accept that bid as well. If they reinvest correctly with an ambitious owner they seem to have in place they could fly up the table. Sunderland have done well to pick up Ballard as well providing it all goes through, solid addition for them.

[NathStPaul]

Sunderland are set to sign Daniel Ballard from Arsenal, previously under interest from Burnley.

Brentford have made a £20m offer for Hull's Keane Lewis-Potter.

Hull will have done well to have coined in £45m for Bowen & KLP, that's assuming they accept that bid as well. If they reinvest correctly with an ambitious owner they seem to have in place they could fly up the table. Sunderland have done well to pick up Ballard as well providing it all goes through, solid addition for them.

Hull will either do really well next season or completely crash and burn. Owner is a bit of a livewire, very ambitious.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Sunderland are set to sign Daniel Ballard from Arsenal, previously under interest from Burnley.

Brentford have made a £20m offer for Hull's Keane Lewis-Potter.

Hull will have done well to have coined in £45m for Bowen & KLP, that's assuming they accept that bid as well. If they reinvest correctly with an ambitious owner they seem to have in place they could fly up the table. Sunderland have done well to pick up Ballard as well providing it all goes through, solid addition for them.

Hull will either do really well next season or completely crash and burn. Owner is a bit of a livewire, very ambitious.

Yeah was thinking the same. Either lose their best player and fail miserably or fly up the table.

Reminds me of ourselves between 2017-2019.

[NathStPaul]

It has been revealed WBA have lent £5m to the club chairman. Gourlay doing bits.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Slippery slope, could be the next one to fall into financial difficulties if this keeps up.

[Mr Optimist]

It has been revealed WBA have lent £5m to the club chairman. Gourlay doing bits.

Maybe just resting in his account, Father Ted style like.

[blythspartan]

Yet another deadline missed by Derby’s administrators. I hope this shit show never happens to us.

[The Royal Forester]

Yet another deadline missed by Derby’s administrators. I hope this shit show never happens to us.

No chance. We would not be given so many "last chances". The EFL would have expelled us a long time ago!

[Ascotexgunner]

Yet another deadline missed by Derby’s administrators. I hope this shit show never happens to us.

I'm utterly lost where Derby are. Sounds like they should be on -100 points with all their misdemeanors.
So they have missed the deadline. Which is a points deduction.
Found that they may have been getting Rooney to pay wages illegally.....which is more points.
Have they actually been done for overspending? Surely they are guilty as hell of that one as well.
They seem to have got off so lightly to me.

[Pepe the Horseman]

You can still get 10/3 on Derby to go down, which seems nuts considering they've got no players and look nailed on for another points deduction.

[Stranded]

Yet another deadline missed by Derby’s administrators. I hope this shit show never happens to us.

I'm utterly lost where Derby are. Sounds like they should be on -100 points with all their misdemeanors.
So they have missed the deadline. Which is a points deduction.
Found that they may have been getting Rooney to pay wages illegally.....which is more points.
Have they actually been done for overspending? Surely they are guilty as hell of that one as well.
They seem to have got off so lightly to me.

Apparently, Rooney/his agent paying the wages is not against the rules if the sums were paid/loaned to the administrators who then paid the players. Issue would be if they paid them directly.

Where Derby are is in admin - as long as they pay the wages each month they are in admin then they are not in breach of anything. Pay day was yesterday, I assume players have been paid but if not then there is an automatic 3 point deduction even if the deal goes through today. If the deal doesn't cover the minimum payments set out by the EFL then they will get another 15.

At this stage it looks like a deal will be done, possibly today, and they will start afresh on 0 but with some restictions on fees/wages until the creditors are paid off. Lots of rumours that they will sign Hourihane, which I'll be very surprised by, would have thought there would be a few Champ clubs interested in him still.

[morganb]

Lee Bowyer: Birmingham City head coach sacked by Championship club - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61144145

Unfortunately they may get someone better in now

[Pepe the Horseman]

Lee Bowyer: Birmingham City head coach sacked by Championship club - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61144145

Unfortunately they may get someone better in now

Wouldn't count on it.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

Lee Bowyer: Birmingham City head coach sacked by Championship club - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61144145

Unfortunately they may get someone better in now

Wouldn't count on it.

Why wait until well into pre-season? Strange

[From Despair To Where?]

Agreed. Much better to do it a week before the season starts.

[Elm Park Kid]

Maybe there was a contractual clause which means they'd have to pay him more money if sacked before July.

As far as I can tell Derby won't have any points deductions, unless the new owners haven't agreed to make the required debt repayments.