Sutekh Thought it’d be good to have a specific thread related to referees, linesmen and other match officials so we have a go to thread for any questions or feedback or getting a better understanding on the interpretation of the laws and why these people do the things they do as regards refereeing of football and for any nostalgia of officials from days of yore (remember Paul Rejer or the referee that hailed from Great Bookham in Surrey ?)…
Thought I’d start with answering the question “what does the 4th official actually do beside standing around stopping management getting into fights with each other”? See url below…
https://trophyroom.io/behind-the-game-t ... -official/
One of the best bits in the above is “maintains eye contact with the other referees”
paultheroyalSutekh Thought it’d be good to have a specific thread related to referees, linesmen and other match officials so we have a go to thread for any questions or feedback or getting a better understanding on the interpretation of the laws and why these people do the things they do as regards refereeing of football and for any nostalgia of officials from days of yore (remember Paul Rejer or the referee that hailed from Great Bookham in Surrey ?)…
Thought I’d start with answering the question “what does the 4th official actually do beside standing around stopping management getting into fights with each other”? See url below…
https://trophyroom.io/behind-the-game-t ... -official/
One of the best bits in the above is “maintains eye contact with the other referees”
Did many a game with Ray Lewis - a gentleman off the pitch, if i recall he patented the modern day lineman flag and made a fortune from it.
Enjoyed my 4th Official stints. Its much change now how they do it, less so in League one etc - but brilliant to be part of the Premier League and duties then pretty much duties now minus the substitutes board which was done by the coaching staff.
Dirk Gently Back in the days when I used to do football-related stuff I was invited to the opening of the National Football Museum in Manchester. I was playing the video "You Are The Ref" game when I sensed a large presence watching over my shoulder.
Turned around and saw it was Howard Webb - now that's what I call pressure with the other decisions I had to make...
Dirk Gently Back in the days when I used to do football-related stuff I was invited to the opening of the National Football Museum in Manchester. I was playing the video "You Are The Ref" game when I sensed a large presence watching over my shoulder.
Turned around and saw it was Howard Webb - now that's what I call pressure with the other decisions I had to make...
South Coast RoyalDirk Gently Back in the days when I used to do football-related stuff I was invited to the opening of the National Football Museum in Manchester. I was playing the video "You Are The Ref" game when I sensed a large presence watching over my shoulder.
Turned around and saw it was Howard Webb - now that's what I call pressure with the other decisions I had to make...
Talking of Howard Webb I remember complaining about Howard Webb after he didn't give a Keith Jones goal away at Walsall. (no goal line technology then).
I believe the complaint was to the FA but whoever it was I got a phone call from the "compliance " officer to discuss the matter.
I had suggested that Webb hadn't a clue and was probably what refs usually were then , i.e. a teacher, a civil servant or a policeman who were all officious , loving to tell people what to do and were generally old and bald.
The compliance officer was very friendly, in no hurry to halt the conversation and confirmed that I was right on two counts, that Webb was indeed a policeman and bald but was in fact young.
He was being fast tracked (ironically just like Attwell who gave the goal that never was at Watford) as they had high hopes for him going forward.
I expressed my doubts based on his performance in that one game.
A life lesson was learnt by me-don't judge a player or a ref based on one game only but I still think he chickened out by not sending-off De Jong in that final..
SutekhSouth Coast RoyalDirk Gently Back in the days when I used to do football-related stuff I was invited to the opening of the National Football Museum in Manchester. I was playing the video "You Are The Ref" game when I sensed a large presence watching over my shoulder.
Turned around and saw it was Howard Webb - now that's what I call pressure with the other decisions I had to make...
Talking of Howard Webb I remember complaining about Howard Webb after he didn't give a Keith Jones goal away at Walsall. (no goal line technology then).
I believe the complaint was to the FA but whoever it was I got a phone call from the "compliance " officer to discuss the matter.
I had suggested that Webb hadn't a clue and was probably what refs usually were then , i.e. a teacher, a civil servant or a policeman who were all officious , loving to tell people what to do and were generally old and bald.
The compliance officer was very friendly, in no hurry to halt the conversation and confirmed that I was right on two counts, that Webb was indeed a policeman and bald but was in fact young.
He was being fast tracked (ironically just like Attwell who gave the goal that never was at Watford) as they had high hopes for him going forward.
I expressed my doubts based on his performance in that one game.
A life lesson was learnt by me-don't judge a player or a ref based on one game only but I still think he chickened out by not sending-off De Jong in that final..
Really good of the FA to get someone to get back to a fan based on a complaint, must have been a really well written letter. Wonder if they still do that if Joe Public take the time to complain.
Also wasn’t Stuart “when is not a goal a goal” Attwell another one being fast tracked when he turned up at Watford that time, Reading seem to have a record of “dodgy decisions” with this type of referee.
Sanguine An average of 16 minutes and 34 seconds was added to matches on the opening weekend of the EFL season, with 29 bookings for time-wasting compared with two on the final day of last season.
Good stuff. I like it. I think we'll see this have quite a quick impact - especially with regards to player behaviour.
WestYorksRoyalSanguine An average of 16 minutes and 34 seconds was added to matches on the opening weekend of the EFL season, with 29 bookings for time-wasting compared with two on the final day of last season.
Good stuff. I like it. I think we'll see this have quite a quick impact - especially with regards to player behaviour.
The fact that players are complaining about it suggests it will work. Once the authorities stand their ground, players will realise that the only way to stop all the added time is to play ball.
Sanguine An average of 16 minutes and 34 seconds was added to matches on the opening weekend of the EFL season, with 29 bookings for time-wasting compared with two on the final day of last season.
Good stuff. I like it. I think we'll see this have quite a quick impact - especially with regards to player behaviour.
Former Premier League referee Mike Dean failed to intervene on a major VAR call because he didn’t want to cause his friend Anthony Taylor any ‘grief’, he has revealed.
“I missed the stupid hair pull at Chelsea versus Tottenham which was pathetic from my point of view”
“I said to Anthony afterwards: ‘I just didn’t want to send you to the screen after what has gone on in the game’. I didn’t want to send him up because he is a mate as well as a referee and I think I didn’t want to send him up because I didn’t want any more grief than he already had.
“Anthony, he is big and bald and ugly enough to know if he is going to the screen he is going to the screen for a reason. If someone pulls their hair now it’s dead easy. It’s just a brainwave by me, a really bad call by me, and it kind of affected me as VAR going forward.”
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