The squad in July

[Snowflake Royal]

From Dellor this morning: https://twitter.com/RFCLatest/status/16 ... 5937449984

There are thought to be others with relegation clauses in their contracts alongside Tom Ince and Naby Sarr.

Do we have any idea who these players might be on the list above and also who we are likely to lose via this route (as in good enough to be wanted by another team and actually want to leave)?

Anyone who signed a contract in the last 2 years probably.

So McIntyre, Holmes, Carroll etc.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Tbh I don't think the relegation clauses are that meaningful. I don't think anyone is going to get a better contact elsewhere.

I think most that signed a new deal last season (and probably the season before) would get a better deal in the Championship if that's where they end up moving. Tom Ince will be on far greater wages if/when he moves than what he's rumoured to be on here.

[Snowflake Royal]

Yeah, pretty baffling view

[Stranded]

Tbh I don't think the relegation clauses are that meaningful. I don't think anyone is going to get a better contact elsewhere.

I think most that signed a new deal last season (and probably the season before) would get a better deal in the Championship if that's where they end up moving. Tom Ince will be on far greater wages if/when he moves than what he's rumoured to be on here.

Exactly - the clause would have been their agents way of protecting future earnings - probably also a clause allowing renegotation if we had stayed up.

[Elm Park Kid]

I meant that relegation clause or no clause, if players want to leave they will probably end up leaving. Sarr had to go to Qatar to get a better deal. Ince already has a nominal buy-out fee. And our squad will still be on championship wages next season (minus any possible contractual reduction).

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Ah right I see now. I don't think many/any players who we signed last summer or renewed their contracts will be on Championship level wages, not even average ones, not according to reported figures anyway.

[Stranded]

From the veiled wording here - seems that the club hadn't yet announced Sarr leaving because Sarr hadn't told the club he was going to leave - looks like the deal announcement came as a bit of a surprise and they are more than slightly pissed about it.

https://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/2023/j ... ddle-east/

Royals centre-back Naby Sarr is expected to trigger a relegation release clause in his contract to take up a new opportunity overseas.

Without any formal approach submitted to the club for the centre-half, Sarr was set to remain a registered player with the Royals whilst under contract with the club.

However the defender - who turns 30 this summer - is now expected to formally activate the contractual clause to allow him to leave RG2 and sign for Qatari side Almarkhiya.

Sarr put pen to paper on a contract with the Royals last summer and scored on debut at Millwall. After a three-month injury absence, he went on to make 23 starts across the course of our 2022-23 campaign.

Everyone at Reading Football Club would like to wish Naby well in his future career.

[Hound]

Yeah and hopefully will shush the Twitter clowns about the club not mentioning it. It’s not done yet

Hopefully it will put in a few grand to add to next seasons pot

As for release clauses, be amazed if Holmes doesn’t have one. Whether he’ll trigger it or not. Also suprised (pleasantly) if Carroll is still here in August

[Stranded]

Yeah and hopefully will shush the Twitter clowns about the club not mentioning it. It’s not done yet

Hopefully it will put in a few grand to add to next seasons pot

As for release clauses, be amazed if Holmes doesn’t have one. Whether he’ll trigger it or not. Also suprised (pleasantly) if Carroll is still here in August

I think he has signed at the Qatari lot, just not given the official confirmation to the club - clearly a formality - maybe reading to much into the wording but the fact they mentioned no bid received would suggest he can walk for free.

[On Strings]

From the veiled wording here - seems that the club hadn't yet announced Sarr leaving because Sarr hadn't told the club he was going to leave

Yet the Club and fans knew he'd left as he posted a photo of himself with his new shirt over 36 hours ago. No excuse for not acknowledging this sooner.

[Stranded]

From the veiled wording here - seems that the club hadn't yet announced Sarr leaving because Sarr hadn't told the club he was going to leave

Yet the Club and fans knew he'd left as he posted a photo of himself with his new shirt over 36 hours ago. No excuse for not acknowledging this sooner.

You can take that view but he is still a Reading player and in lieu of the official paperwork/acknowledgement then he remains so. From the tone of the wording, the club are annoyed and may well have spent time yesterday understanding any legal position given this has clearly been done in the "wrong" way. The wording has definitely been through solicitors.

[Orion1871]

Yeah and hopefully will shush the Twitter clowns about the club not mentioning it. It’s not done yet

Hopefully it will put in a few grand to add to next seasons pot

As for release clauses, be amazed if Holmes doesn’t have one. Whether he’ll trigger it or not. Also suprised (pleasantly) if Carroll is still here in August

Spoiler Alert:

It won't.

[Elm Park Kid]

Ah right I see now. I don't think many/any players who we signed last summer or renewed their contracts will be on Championship level wages, not even average ones, not according to reported figures anyway.

£8.5k (our limit for last season) would be an average weekly wage for the kind of struggling Championship teams that might be interested in our squad. Even Luton paid less on average - it's only the parachute clubs and those gambling on promotion that pay significantly higher. And those clubs aren't coming anywhere near our players.

[Stranded]

Ah right I see now. I don't think many/any players who we signed last summer or renewed their contracts will be on Championship level wages, not even average ones, not according to reported figures anyway.

£8.5k (our limit for last season) would be an average weekly wage for the kind of struggling Championship teams that might be interested in our squad. Even Luton paid less on average - it's only the parachute clubs and those gambling on promotion that pay significantly higher. And those clubs aren't coming anywhere near our players.

But we should and hopefully did have relegation pay cut clauses in the contracts, so whilst some will be on 8.5k now, from 1st July, it is likely to be more like 5k, so scope for a pay rise by moving to a lower end Champ side still.

[Hound]

Yeah and hopefully will shush the Twitter clowns about the club not mentioning it. It’s not done yet

Hopefully it will put in a few grand to add to next seasons pot

As for release clauses, be amazed if Holmes doesn’t have one. Whether he’ll trigger it or not. Also suprised (pleasantly) if Carroll is still here in August

Spoiler Alert:

It won't.

Yeah true. It’s actually made them worse

[Hendo]

Ah right I see now. I don't think many/any players who we signed last summer or renewed their contracts will be on Championship level wages, not even average ones, not according to reported figures anyway.

£8.5k (our limit for last season) would be an average weekly wage for the kind of struggling Championship teams that might be interested in our squad. Even Luton paid less on average - it's only the parachute clubs and those gambling on promotion that pay significantly higher. And those clubs aren't coming anywhere near our players.

Apart from Norwich and Ince?

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Ah right I see now. I don't think many/any players who we signed last summer or renewed their contracts will be on Championship level wages, not even average ones, not according to reported figures anyway.

£8.5k (our limit for last season) would be an average weekly wage for the kind of struggling Championship teams that might be interested in our squad. Even Luton paid less on average - it's only the parachute clubs and those gambling on promotion that pay significantly higher. And those clubs aren't coming anywhere near our players.

Working off some of the sources I've seen, it's been reported that the players are/were down as earning £3k per week. Was the limit for last season something that the club has actually said/was reported or is it something that the fans have just calculated based on what our wage bill is/was at the start of last season and what that average would be per player?

[Elm Park Kid]

Ah right I see now. I don't think many/any players who we signed last summer or renewed their contracts will be on Championship level wages, not even average ones, not according to reported figures anyway.

£8.5k (our limit for last season) would be an average weekly wage for the kind of struggling Championship teams that might be interested in our squad. Even Luton paid less on average - it's only the parachute clubs and those gambling on promotion that pay significantly higher. And those clubs aren't coming anywhere near our players.

Working off some of the sources I've seen, it's been reported that the players are/were down as earning £3k per week. Was the limit for last season something that the club has actually said/was reported or is it something that the fans have just calculated based on what our wage bill is/was at the start of last season and what that average would be per player?

I actually can't remember where that figure comes from - I guess it's possible that people just repeated it so often it became a 'fact'.

Though, i guess my point is that whatever wages we agreed in contract negotiations last season they would have pretty much been the market rate for each player. The EFL restrictions wouldn't have stopped us offering players what they were worth, a value that has only decreased being part of a relegation side. I just don't see why Championship clubs would be interested now in outbidding us for players that have already been found wanting (obviously Ince aside). A good example is NGW - who was more than ready to sign a new contract with us, even though he had the option to listen to other clubs offers.

[Snowflake Royal]

From the veiled wording here - seems that the club hadn't yet announced Sarr leaving because Sarr hadn't told the club he was going to leave

Yet the Club and fans knew he'd left as he posted a photo of himself with his new shirt over 36 hours ago. No excuse for not acknowledging this sooner.

oxf*rd off.

[Snowflake Royal]

Ah right I see now. I don't think many/any players who we signed last summer or renewed their contracts will be on Championship level wages, not even average ones, not according to reported figures anyway.

£8.5k (our limit for last season) would be an average weekly wage for the kind of struggling Championship teams that might be interested in our squad. Even Luton paid less on average - it's only the parachute clubs and those gambling on promotion that pay significantly higher. And those clubs aren't coming anywhere near our players.

We paid less on average. Because it was the max we could pay. oxf*rd hell.