New embargo incoming

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Re: New embargo incoming

by yuomi » 15 Jun 2023 18:11

EFL haven't even publicly addressed the new charge other than recording it on the site, so doubt it's only applicable until the end of the current embargo. More likely they'll drag us over the coals and hand down a new embargo or points deduction as it will need to be punished as a separate charge.

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Re: New embargo incoming

by blythspartan » 15 Jun 2023 18:20

Why can’t we simply pay off what we owe in loan fees and end the embargo? Surely, if we negotiate a fee with the parent club the embargo has to end once it’s been paid.

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Re: New embargo incoming

by Wycombe Royal » 15 Jun 2023 18:24

Unpaid fees to other clubs is an automatic embargo as Cardiff found out over the Sala transfer. They paid the fee but are still pursuing it through the courts.

If we pay the embargo is lifted.,

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Re: New embargo incoming

by Snowflake Royal » 15 Jun 2023 18:25

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That was probably more to do with Ince being completely useless at his job.


Ince is a decent guy. He walked. He’s a winner. Would have stayed and fought to the end. The six point deduction was down to the owner gambling. He lost . That’s why we got relegated.

:lol: @ calling Ince a winner with his management record.

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Re: New embargo incoming

by WestYorksRoyal » 15 Jun 2023 19:29

These owners are a shit show. Any way we can up the ante to show them how unwelcome they are? Everton's Board stopped attending Goodison due to credible safety concerns; pretty unpleasant but they have new Board members now.

Blackpool saw off the Oystons with a boycott, but took ages. It seemed like Ashley would never leave Newcastle.

The impotence of the situation is horrible. These owners are a disaster and there is apparently nothing we can do.


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Re: New embargo incoming

by Green » 15 Jun 2023 19:53

Nah couldn't happen again. We're too big a club for that.

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Re: New embargo incoming

by Elm Park Kid » 15 Jun 2023 20:02

Embargo will last as long as the dispute continues.

Source - James Earnshaw.

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Re: New embargo incoming

by Pepe the Horseman » 15 Jun 2023 20:06

Elm Park Kid Embargo will last as long as the dispute continues.

Source - James Earnshaw.

It will take as long as it takes.

Source - Matthew Holness.

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Re: New embargo incoming

by NathStPaul » 15 Jun 2023 20:47

Pepe the Horseman
Elm Park Kid Embargo will last as long as the dispute continues.

Source - James Earnshaw.

It will take as long as it takes.

Source - Matthew Holness.

It is what it is - John


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Re: New embargo incoming

by Royal_jimmy » 15 Jun 2023 20:55

The ownership of the club just gets worse and worse

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Re: New embargo incoming

by NathStPaul » 15 Jun 2023 21:31

What are you going to do about it Jimmy? Whats the plan?

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Re: New embargo incoming

by From Despair To Where? » 15 Jun 2023 21:58

I'd suggest start with buying some rubber sheets.

Then hide the paracetamol.

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Re: New embargo incoming

by WestYorksRoyal » 15 Jun 2023 21:59

Wider issue, but terms where loanees have to play or clubs face financial penalties need to be outlawed. Baba and Loum did not earn their position on the pitch and it was right to leave them out.


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Re: New embargo incoming

by From Despair To Where? » 15 Jun 2023 22:03

WestYorksRoyal Wider issue, but terms where loanees have to play or clubs face financial penalties need to be outlawed. Baba and Loum did not earn their position on the pitch and it was right to leave them out.


Or at the very least with a clause whereby you can send them back in the January window. I think at present, season long loans can only be terminated early by the loaning club.

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Re: New embargo incoming

by Sutekh » 16 Jun 2023 04:50

WestYorksRoyal Wider issue, but terms where loanees have to play or clubs face financial penalties need to be outlawed. Baba and Loum did not earn their position on the pitch and it was right to leave them out.


Rahman was injured though.

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Re: New embargo incoming

by Hound » 16 Jun 2023 05:41

Sutekh
WestYorksRoyal Wider issue, but terms where loanees have to play or clubs face financial penalties need to be outlawed. Baba and Loum did not earn their position on the pitch and it was right to leave them out.


Rahman was injured though.


Was he? Might be the issue

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Re: New embargo incoming

by Linden Jones' Tash » 16 Jun 2023 07:10

Some questions:

So 'play when fit' can be a loan requirement to ensure parent club pays their share?

Explains Hendrick situation...

Also, does that mean that PINCE/whoever picked the team knowingly put the club in future jeopardy based on 1st team selection or are they just arguing over the validity of a doctor's note?

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Re: New embargo incoming

by WestYorksRoyal » 16 Jun 2023 08:56

I'd be surprised if it was Baba. We have an excellent relationship with Chelsea who were apparently very pleased with the development Casadei showed. I doubt they would question our view on injuries.

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Re: New embargo incoming

by genome » 16 Jun 2023 09:15

NathStPaul What are you going to do about it Jimmy? Whats the plan?


According to the Facebook groups there is a protest being planned for Sunday at the stadium. You know, when all the staff members are off and at home.

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Re: New embargo incoming

by Greatwesternline » 16 Jun 2023 09:16

Can i just point out the "play when fit" angle is just Hound's speculation.

I can't see "play when fit" being a dispute involving the EFL. It would be a contractual dispute about injury status, and not related to money.

The charge literally says: Non payment of loan wages.

Why not just take it at face value, perhaps we havent paid loanee wages. :o

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