by Sutekh » 21 Jun 2023 17:41
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by Elm Park Kid » 22 Jun 2023 08:39
by NathStPaul » 22 Jun 2023 08:45
Elm Park Kid Selles will be gone by October.
by On Strings » 22 Jun 2023 09:20
by Hendo » 22 Jun 2023 09:30
Royal_jimmy I'll never be Selles in unless we're near the top of league one
by andrew1957 » 22 Jun 2023 11:44
by SCIAG » 22 Jun 2023 14:47
by Millsy » 22 Jun 2023 15:07
SCIAG Middle ground, no expectations, open to good things but alert to bad ones.
People thought Stam would be a disaster and he had us penalties away from promotion.
by Hemenbruff Royal » 22 Jun 2023 15:18
by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jun 2023 18:25
HendoRoyal_jimmy I'll never be Selles in unless we're near the top of league one
What's the top for you? I think I'll be pretty happy if we're in and around the play-offs with the playing stuff currently the way it is.
by SCIAG » 22 Jun 2023 18:39
MillsySCIAG Middle ground, no expectations, open to good things but alert to bad ones.
People thought Stam would be a disaster and he had us penalties away from promotion.
a) LIke Parj and Brian, Stam had a clean slate in terms of first team management so he could go either way unlike Selles who has given it a bash and has proven himself to be beyond awful b) Stam was actually ultimately shite.
by tmesis » 22 Jun 2023 20:51
Snowflake RoyalHendoRoyal_jimmy I'll never be Selles in unless we're near the top of league one
What's the top for you? I think I'll be pretty happy if we're in and around the play-offs with the playing stuff currently the way it is.
At this point top half is looking positive.
Same deal as anyone else for me. Below mid-table is disappointing but tolerable under the circumstances. Below 16th and not. And just generally being oxf*rd useless and things falling apart no matter whether there was a good run 10 games ago isn’t good enough.
by Millsy » 24 Jun 2023 10:30
SCIAGMillsySCIAG Middle ground, no expectations, open to good things but alert to bad ones.
People thought Stam would be a disaster and he had us penalties away from promotion.
a) LIke Parj and Brian, Stam had a clean slate in terms of first team management so he could go either way unlike Selles who has given it a bash and has proven himself to be beyond awful b) Stam was actually ultimately shite.
Do you think Pardew or McDermott would have kept Southampton up? What about, say, Simon Grayson, who is probably the best League One manager of recent years?
It's just a bit of a shit way of judging someone, isn't it? Hassenhuttl and Jones both couldn't get anything out of that side, they were out of their depth after years of poor recruitment, they were basically bottom all season. It doesn't seem especially relevant to whether someone will be a success in another job, unless that job is also managing the worst team in the Premier League.
by Elm Park Kid » 24 Jun 2023 11:36
by tmesis » 24 Jun 2023 12:51
MillsySCIAGMillsy
a) LIke Parj and Brian, Stam had a clean slate in terms of first team management so he could go either way unlike Selles who has given it a bash and has proven himself to be beyond awful b) Stam was actually ultimately shite.
Do you think Pardew or McDermott would have kept Southampton up? What about, say, Simon Grayson, who is probably the best League One manager of recent years?
It's just a bit of a shit way of judging someone, isn't it? Hassenhuttl and Jones both couldn't get anything out of that side, they were out of their depth after years of poor recruitment, they were basically bottom all season. It doesn't seem especially relevant to whether someone will be a success in another job, unless that job is also managing the worst team in the Premier League.
It’s not about keeping them up it’s about the stats. I think any manager could have gotten at least a new manager honeymoon (like Ince at least did when he kept us up) bounce out of them and thus better stats but he was just awful throughout. But even if not, what… the best you’ve got is “Well perhaps he isn’t *that* shit”.
by Snowflake Royal » 24 Jun 2023 13:27
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