Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by SouthDownsRoyal » 31 Jul 2023 10:58

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Loafer I'm wondering if Brogue is Dai :shock:


I don’t know if this is the case but I believe Dai does browse hobnob
He prefers Anything Else though, he even posted Reading FC on the "What have you just bought?" thread at the time which was a bit of a shock.

He's alright, although he does prefer The Rock over Con Air and doesn't have a preference for red of blue bounty bars which is concerning.


Yes I saw that.

He never comments on the weather thread though which would be interesting as we don’t have any nobbers based in china

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by Forbury Lion » 31 Jul 2023 11:06

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I don’t know if this is the case but I believe Dai does browse hobnob
He prefers Anything Else though, he even posted Reading FC on the "What have you just bought?" thread at the time which was a bit of a shock.

He's alright, although he does prefer The Rock over Con Air and doesn't have a preference for red of blue bounty bars which is concerning.


Yes I saw that.

He never comments on the weather thread though which would be interesting as we don’t have any nobbers based in china
Probably interesting for some, not useful for anyone and a waste of his time when he could be on the Margo Robbie thread.

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by Linden Jones' Tash » 31 Jul 2023 11:06

SouthDownsRoyal Selles.

Either why on earth has he come here or what on earth must he think now


My guess is:
The number of Head Coach jobs in English football is very limited - even if L1.
The training facilities are Elite level
The Stadium is impressive
Bowen/top brass will have woven a good story about the potential

Even if he falls flat on his face, no-one (outside the Reading fandom) will hold him personally responsible and his CV will have a permanent Head Coach job on it.

its win/win in the grand scheme of things.

as to what he must think now - depends how much time he spends doom scrolling on social media and how his bosses are managing things in terms of communications.

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by Lower West » 31 Jul 2023 11:07

3points
Also, much of Dai's money is not in China but in Cayman and BVI where all his interests seem to be registered (including RFC's parent company). Chinese businesses are often funded through a complex web of offshore businesses, so that wouldn't be uncommon.


That's the structure of the majority of Chinese companies. The offshore companies are then connected to onshore companies in China effectively by a series of contracts. The offshore companies have little in the way of owned assets. This is protection to stop foreigners having any form of direct ownership, i.e. claim on them. Chinese companies are constitutionally responsible to the State ahead of the interests of shareholders.

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by Sutekh » 31 Jul 2023 11:09

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SouthDownsRoyal Selles.

Either why on earth has he come here or what on earth must he think now


My guess is:
The number of Head Coach jobs in English football is very limited - even if L1.
The training facilities are Elite level
The Stadium is impressive
Bowen/top brass will have woven a good story about the potential

Even if he falls flat on his face, no-one (outside the Reading fandom) will hold him personally responsible and his CV will have a permanent Head Coach job on it.

its win/win in the grand scheme of things.

as to what he must think now - depends how much time he spends doom scrolling on social media and how his bosses are managing things in terms of communications.


Have to say I actually have a much better feeling about Selles than I had with Gomes or Pornovic, just need some things to start going Selles way on the pitch and hopefully things will work themselves out for the better.


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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by Linden Jones' Tash » 31 Jul 2023 11:18

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SouthDownsRoyal Selles.

Either why on earth has he come here or what on earth must he think now


My guess is:
The number of Head Coach jobs in English football is very limited - even if L1.
The training facilities are Elite level
The Stadium is impressive
Bowen/top brass will have woven a good story about the potential

Even if he falls flat on his face, no-one (outside the Reading fandom) will hold him personally responsible and his CV will have a permanent Head Coach job on it.

its win/win in the grand scheme of things.

as to what he must think now - depends how much time he spends doom scrolling on social media and how his bosses are managing things in terms of communications.


Have to say I actually have a much better feeling about Selles than I had with Gomes or Pornovic, just need some things to start going Selles way on the pitch and hopefully things will work themselves out for the better.


my hope is that he is as advertised (his previous roles and coaching experiences look interesting) and actually brave in his decision making - play the vertical high press game - don't just talk a good game...

The margins are so small and the impact of a resilient positive mindset can make a massive difference to success or failure.

My worry is that winning is a habit that we appear to have lost - a couple of sneaky wins and some positive play could make a lot of difference to the rest of the season

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by Brogue » 31 Jul 2023 11:43

dai is at bearwood today showing the prospective new owner around

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by Hound » 31 Jul 2023 11:45

Does sound like he is knocking about the place. Plenty of sources suggesting the bill been paid so a bit more hopeful

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by MartinRdg » 31 Jul 2023 11:45

Brogue dai is at bearwood today showing the prospective new owner around


Any inside info on the prospective new owner? Hopefully, someone who can access their funds more easily.


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by Snowflake Royal » 31 Jul 2023 12:16

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Loafer I'm wondering if Brogue is Dai :shock:


I don’t know if this is the case but I believe Dai does browse hobnob
He prefers Anything Else though, he even posted Reading FC on the "What have you just bought?" thread at the time which was a bit of a shock.

He's alright, although he does prefer The Rock over Con Air and doesn't have a preference for red of blue bounty bars which is concerning. We try and ignore all the destroying our football club shenanigans on Anything Else and accept him as a just another idiot poster.

This is really impressive Forbs. I can't remember the last post you made that wasn't just an enormous :|

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by Brogue » 31 Jul 2023 13:50

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Brogue dai is at bearwood today showing the prospective new owner around


Any inside info on the prospective new owner? Hopefully, someone who can access their funds more easily.


Yes its an American investment fund called 777 Partners. They got wind of the club being for sale after George Puscas deal - they own 99% of Genoa.

They have stakes in
Sevilla FC 7.5%
Genoa C.F.C 99%
CR Vasco da Gama 70%
Standard Liège 100%
Red Star F.C 100%
Melbourne Victory FC - unsure - minority stake
Hertha BSC 64.7%

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by rabidbee » 31 Jul 2023 14:01

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/her ... ott=2GdDPS

The firm has made quick inroads into soccer club ownership, establishing one of the largest multi-club ownership models in the world. Yet it has attracted criticism for its business strategy, with an article published by Josimar Football questioning its inability to find wealthy partners for sustained investment in its teams. It also asked questions concerning the possibility of return on investment (ROI), with US court papers having previously levied charges of fraud, extortion and racketeering against 777’s companies.


Great.

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by Hound » 31 Jul 2023 14:02

Seems pretty plausible after reading through the info


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by Linden Jones' Tash » 31 Jul 2023 14:07

I wanted Jay Z....

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by Orion1871 » 31 Jul 2023 14:09

Linden Jones' Tash I wanted Jay Z....


Only if he got his wife and Rihanna to join him in a threesome, I mean consortium.

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by Stranded » 31 Jul 2023 14:10

I know nothing about 777 or if this is even true, seems too specific to make up but people get bored, but this seems to be the way of things and being part of a group with some pretty big names should give us a modicum of stability - and Puscas back on loan.

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by Brogue » 31 Jul 2023 14:23

they have been linked with Everton, west ham, and very recently Sheff Utd. Their main priority is an investment in the English leagues.

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by blythspartan » 31 Jul 2023 14:39

Brogue they have been linked with Everton, west ham, and very recently Sheff Utd. Their main priority is an investment in the English leagues.


And they prefer a place with lots of Waitrose stores.

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Re: another, thants right another embargo for late PAYE payments - a new embargo

by WestYorksRoyal » 31 Jul 2023 14:48

That Josimar article is full blown conspiracy madness. Links them to kidnapping. Whatever their flaws, they're not gangsters

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