Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

[72 bus]

According to the reliable man from the Mirror Derby want Yiadom.

Car started, where do I pick him up from ?

[Hound]

Yep fair play. Any ideas on a replacement for Carroll? Personally, I’d love Stansfield but I fully expect him to go to the championship. I’m almost inclined to say we should sign Jayden Wareham and give him a chance in the first team. I think he must know Elliott well and Selles is keen on giving the youngsters a chance.

Vic called it first didn’t he?

Vic refused to name names, I did the hard work by copy and pasting some comments from twitter.

Fair enough. You can have that one

[Hound]

According to the reliable man from the Mirror Derby want Yiadom.

That's fine.

Yep whatevs

Having a bit of to and fro with those Derby fans is our Daz. Does suggest a lot is to do with raising funds. Knowing our financial management we’ve suddenly realised we need a fire sale to pay the next tax bill

He does say they are on very big wages which I highly doubt though

[Clyde1998]

According to the reliable man from the Mirror Derby want Yiadom.

That's fine. Mbengue seems to have become our first choice RB this season, whilst Abrefa and Rushesha are definitely suitable as back ups.

[Webster750]

NGW had a falling out with Toby Loveland following the game at Port Vale and Sellés felt disrespected on his behalf. Either gone or with the U21's in PL2 for a good while. Would hope it can be resolved.

Lol, I thought Toby Loveland was your nickname for Selles. Who actually is he?!

First team coaching assistant by day, lover by night

[Sutekh]

Four players have been transfer listed, as advised by a poster yesterday.

https://twitter.com/RFCLatest/status/16 ... 56/photo/1

• Bouzanis: I'm not surprised. Upon signing Button there isn't much point in us keeping him: CBC will be our cup keeper. I can't imagine we'll notice if Bouzanis stays or goes; I cannot envisage a situation where Bouzanis will play for us again.
• Holmes: Appears to have been supplanted by Bindon and Abbey, who both look much more assured defensively, whilst Dean and McIntyre are probably ahead of him in the pecking order. Hasn't really progressed since being in the first team.
• NGW: The only one of the four I'd be disappointed to lose. Can be defensively suspect at times, but is decent going forward; I maintain he could be more effective as a left-midfielder. We'd need another LB if he goes.
• Carroll: We've never really played well with Carroll in the side; he doesn't really fit with the style of play Selles wants to play. We'll need another striker should he leave, but getting a L1-level hungry striker who fits with Selles' system shouldn't be the hardest thing in the world.

Bouzanis was an utterly pointless signing in the first place so would be happy to see him move on
Carroll just doesn't fit in with the style of play and despite being a handful for defenders the club just fall into stupid aimless hoofball when he's on the pitch
Holmes never rated him him so another I'd happily drive to his next club asap
NGW Can't defend so not sure why he gets a role as a left back when he's looks much better as a winger. Wouldn't really want to see him leave but the club have other wide left players and certainly better left "wing" backs.

Can't see getting much money for any of them and don't think there'd be much saving on wages either. The club already need another striker so losing Carroll would probably cause the biggest issue despite the clueless management of his game time.

[Hound]

Slightly bizarre if Ovie ends up being the only remaining first Teamer from last year

Noted he’d posted something on instagram suggesting he is back fit

[Stranded]

Slightly bizarre if Ovie ends up being the only remaining first Teamer from last year

Noted he’d posted something on instagram suggesting he is back fit

Definitely back fit - his omission from the list of players available for transfer shows one of two things 1. his injury has essentially ruled him out of a move or 2. Selles is aware of him as a player and has been impressed with his effort to get fit and feels he could fit his style. If Ejaria is the only one left from the "old school" it might actually do him good (though I am not getting my hopes up). Also suggests that this is not just about cost cutting - though that will naturally play a part.

Selles was also very pointed in his statement that NGW, Holmes and Carroll were all fit and their omission was his decision.

It feels as if this is a needed next step to re-setting the club - their is clearly a wish to be a young high intensity team, with the odd older player who can play in that system i.e. Wing - moving on, some or all of those mentioned, admittedly probably for relatively small fees - fits that esp. if it allows us to bring in more players that fit that mould either on loan or as a FA. It seems a decent number of our deals are very much off the radar this year, only breaking in the hours before someone signs, so who knows what is lined up - Pereria looks done as soon as Bouzanis is gone though. It will naturally help financially by leaving us with a smaller wage bill too.

It's uncomfortable and may cause short term pain but if this truly is the start of a project, which players signing say it is, then seeing what the players already here could do and then making a call on them is the right thing to do. Then you get rid of the ones you don't want/need or have shown they can't/won't adapt - a lot of the reasons we are where we are financially are not getting fees of any size for players we are happy to lose and keeping hold of players who are essentially surplus to requirements. Yes squad depth is a worry especially if they go without replacement but it may be we have decided that it is better to lose them and bring in the next player from the Academy then have them hanging around waiting for an injury/cup game.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Four players have been transfer listed, as advised by a poster yesterday.

https://twitter.com/RFCLatest/status/16 ... 56/photo/1

• Bouzanis: I'm not surprised. Upon signing Button there isn't much point in us keeping him: CBC will be our cup keeper. I can't imagine we'll notice if Bouzanis stays or goes; I cannot envisage a situation where Bouzanis will play for us again.
• Holmes: Appears to have been supplanted by Bindon and Abbey, who both look much more assured defensively, whilst Dean and McIntyre are probably ahead of him in the pecking order. Hasn't really progressed since being in the first team.
• NGW: The only one of the four I'd be disappointed to lose. Can be defensively suspect at times, but is decent going forward; I maintain he could be more effective as a left-midfielder. We'd need another LB if he goes.
• Carroll: We've never really played well with Carroll in the side; he doesn't really fit with the style of play Selles wants to play. We'll need another striker should he leave, but getting a L1-level hungry striker who fits with Selles' system shouldn't be the hardest thing in the world.

Bouzanis was an utterly pointless signing in the first place so would be happy to see him move on
Carroll just doesn't fit in with the style of play and despite being a handful for defenders the club just fall into stupid aimless hoofball when he's on the pitch
Holmes never rated him him so another I'd happily drive to his next club asap
NGW Can't defend so not sure why he gets a role as a left back when he's looks much better as a winger. Wouldn't really want to see him leave but the club have other wide left players and certainly better left "wing" backs.

Can't see getting much money for any of them and don't think there'd be much saving on wages either. The club already need another striker so losing Carroll would probably cause the biggest issue despite the clueless management of his game time.

Not so bothered about the financial side of it as we know we aren't going to get that much for any of our players, but it clears a little bit off the wage bill for each player which can potentially help to bring 1/2 in and transfer fees or any kind might help the club with cash flow as well.

The positive about it is it's the managers decision to get rid of players he doesn't want, for whatever reasons they end up being (don't fit in the style, fallen out with him etc). Agree when saying I don't think I'd miss any of them.

I don't think we need another striker with Carroll here. Smith, Kelvin E and a new player would be absolutely fine, I can't see why we'd need more than 3. We just need 3 who offer us a threat in the system we play.

[Hound]

If Ejaria can’t make this work then it’s certainly no fault of anyone but himself

Tbh having a young pressing side around him should in theory bring out the best in him, and he’s seen what standards Selles is setting from inside

Ince has gone, he is now one of the more senior players. Be interesting to see if he gets into Selles plans or not

[Snowflake Royal]

According to the reliable man from the Mirror Derby want Yiadom.

That's fine.

Yep whatevs

Having a bit of to and fro with those Derby fans is our Daz. Does suggest a lot is to do with raising funds. Knowing our financial management we’ve suddenly realised we need a fire sale to pay the next tax bill

He does say they are on very big wages which I highly doubt though

If he means big for L1, very plausible. Holmes could be 6-8k, NGW similar, same for Carroll, Yiadom potentially upwards of 12k depending on when he last signed.


Ejaria must be top earner though. So continuing the tradition of it being an excessive amount for a waster that we've had for almost a decade.

[Hound]

That's fine.

Yep whatevs

Having a bit of to and fro with those Derby fans is our Daz. Does suggest a lot is to do with raising funds. Knowing our financial management we’ve suddenly realised we need a fire sale to pay the next tax bill

He does say they are on very big wages which I highly doubt though

If he means big for L1, very plausible. Holmes could be 6-8k, NGW similar, same for Carroll, Yiadom potentially upwards of 12k depending on when he last signed.


Ejaria must be top earner though. So continuing the tradition of it being an excessive amount for a waster that we've had for almost a decade.

Ejaria will be top earner I’m sure

Just based on other things I’ve seen etc - there were apparently relegation clauses in recent contracts (up to 50%). Only TMc signed before last seasons sanctions otherwise when we were still paying the likes of your mate Moore and Meite - so can’t see how Yiadom, Holmes and Carroll can be on more than about 6. I’d be amazed if NGW was anything other than very cheap - free from Wimbledon - prob on about 2

Yes prob big for L1 but not massive

[YorkshireRoyal99]

That's fine.

Yep whatevs

Having a bit of to and fro with those Derby fans is our Daz. Does suggest a lot is to do with raising funds. Knowing our financial management we’ve suddenly realised we need a fire sale to pay the next tax bill

He does say they are on very big wages which I highly doubt though

If he means big for L1, very plausible. Holmes could be 6-8k, NGW similar, same for Carroll, Yiadom potentially upwards of 12k depending on when he last signed.


Ejaria must be top earner though. So continuing the tradition of it being an excessive amount for a waster that we've had for almost a decade.

I don't think any of them will be on nearly that. I did read something that, because of the restrictions on our wage bill, the players who signed/renewed last season are on around £3-4k a week. How true that is, who knows but I could probably believe it in fairness.

As of right now, Ejaria will certainly be our highest earner though, particularly if he is the only player remaining from the big spending spree a few seasons ago.

[Snowflake Royal]

Yep whatevs

Having a bit of to and fro with those Derby fans is our Daz. Does suggest a lot is to do with raising funds. Knowing our financial management we’ve suddenly realised we need a fire sale to pay the next tax bill

He does say they are on very big wages which I highly doubt though

If he means big for L1, very plausible. Holmes could be 6-8k, NGW similar, same for Carroll, Yiadom potentially upwards of 12k depending on when he last signed.


Ejaria must be top earner though. So continuing the tradition of it being an excessive amount for a waster that we've had for almost a decade.

Ejaria will be top earner I’m sure

Just based on other things I’ve seen etc - there were apparently relegation clauses in recent contracts (up to 50%). Only TMc signed before last seasons sanctions otherwise when we were still paying the likes of your mate Moore and Meite - so can’t see how Yiadom, Holmes and Carroll can be on more than about 6. I’d be amazed if NGW was anything other than very cheap - free from Wimbledon - prob on about 2

Yes prob big for L1 but not massive

Yeah, no idea on relegation clauses, and we're shambolic, so was hoping for some but not confident of a lot.

When was our top earner last good? Ejaria, Moore - was there anyone between him and Pogrebnyak?

[Hound]

If he means big for L1, very plausible. Holmes could be 6-8k, NGW similar, same for Carroll, Yiadom potentially upwards of 12k depending on when he last signed.


Ejaria must be top earner though. So continuing the tradition of it being an excessive amount for a waster that we've had for almost a decade.

Ejaria will be top earner I’m sure

Just based on other things I’ve seen etc - there were apparently relegation clauses in recent contracts (up to 50%). Only TMc signed before last seasons sanctions otherwise when we were still paying the likes of your mate Moore and Meite - so can’t see how Yiadom, Holmes and Carroll can be on more than about 6. I’d be amazed if NGW was anything other than very cheap - free from Wimbledon - prob on about 2

Yes prob big for L1 but not massive

Yeah, no idea on relegation clauses, and we're shambolic, so was hoping for some but not confident of a lot.

When was our top earner last good? Ejaria, Moore - was there anyone between him and Pogrebnyak?

No idea - though tbf think Moore was quite good the season he signed that contract. Not 35k pw good but still our best player I think iirc

[Snowflake Royal]

Ejaria will be top earner I’m sure

Just based on other things I’ve seen etc - there were apparently relegation clauses in recent contracts (up to 50%). Only TMc signed before last seasons sanctions otherwise when we were still paying the likes of your mate Moore and Meite - so can’t see how Yiadom, Holmes and Carroll can be on more than about 6. I’d be amazed if NGW was anything other than very cheap - free from Wimbledon - prob on about 2

Yes prob big for L1 but not massive

Yeah, no idea on relegation clauses, and we're shambolic, so was hoping for some but not confident of a lot.

When was our top earner last good? Ejaria, Moore - was there anyone between him and Pogrebnyak?

No idea - though tbf think Moore was quite good the season he signed that contract. Not 35k pw good but still our best player I think iirc

He was up there until shortly after that point, yeah. Maybe worth £20k at that point.

[Stranded]

In terms of wage bill - in L1 last year Weds were top payers with an estimated wage bill of around 170k pw, which based on a 25 man squad is an average of 6.8k pw per player.

With the top earner still here, I would say this is roughly where our wage bill for players sits - we are probably hoping to get it down to around 100 to 120k pw. At the moment, I would put our monthly wage bill for around 700k for players and maybe 800 to 850k for all staff - so a 125% payment into a designated account is probably 1m - we could get that for Holmes alone, if we are lucky.

[Brogue]

In terms of wage bill - in L1 last year Weds were top payers with an estimated wage bill of around 170k pw, which based on a 25 man squad is an average of 6.8k pw per player.

With the top earner still here, I would say this is roughly where our wage bill for players sits - we are probably hoping to get it down to around 100 to 120k pw. At the moment, I would put our monthly wage bill for around 700k for players and maybe 800 to 850k for all staff - so a 125% payment into a designated account is probably 1m - we could get that for Holmes alone, if we are lucky.

doubt its anywhere near that to be honest. this place recks our wage bill is 70k per week, no idea who they are, but it seems a lot more realistic
https://www.capology.com/club/reading/salaries/

Is Capology accurate?
Capology relies on a network of insiders directly involved in contract negotiations as well as publications around the world. When these are still not sufficient, Capology's algorithms provide a best estimate

plus this place has listed a few of our wages https://salarysport.com/football/league-one/reading/ . Again can't be taken as red but I would say this is a fair estimate and a ballpark figure
most of our players are kids now, it lists them a few examples are here


Mamadi Camará £330
Kelvin Abrefa £500
Jahmari Clarke £610
Nelson Abbey £670
Harvey Knibbs £980
Michael Craig £900
Claudio Osorio £780
Rashawn Scott £730
Kelvin Ehibhatiomhan £700
Dean Bouzanis £2,400
Femi Azeez £2,300
Jökull Andrésson £2,100
Coniah Boyce-Clarke £2,400
Sam Hutchinson £2,600
Amadou Mbengue £2,500
Tom Holmes £2,600
Nesta Guinness-Walker £2,900
Andy Carroll £3,500
Tom McIntyre £3,600
Andy Yiadom £3,500

[Stranded]

In terms of wage bill - in L1 last year Weds were top payers with an estimated wage bill of around 170k pw, which based on a 25 man squad is an average of 6.8k pw per player.

With the top earner still here, I would say this is roughly where our wage bill for players sits - we are probably hoping to get it down to around 100 to 120k pw. At the moment, I would put our monthly wage bill for around 700k for players and maybe 800 to 850k for all staff - so a 125% payment into a designated account is probably 1m - we could get that for Holmes alone, if we are lucky.

doubt its anywhere near that to be honest. this place recks our wage bill is 70k per week, no idea who they are, but it seems a lot more realistic
https://www.capology.com/club/reading/salaries/

That seems to be based just on the players listed, of which there are 15 and includes Hoilett. If the average of 4.6k holds true then for a 25 man squad, looking at 115k pw, last years estimated salaries, would make us the 3rd highest payers in the division.

[WestYorksRoyal]

I'm concerned by the amount of rumoured departures. None of them upset me individually, but we don't have a big squad and it'll be a long season with lots of games. It seems like a knee jerk to recent results and/or the financial situation. If we lose Holmes, NGW, Yiadom and Carroll we'll need some incomings too. Also rumoured interest in McIntyre from Blackburn.