CountryRoyalSnowflake RoyalHound Don’t disagree with the above but have to also accept it’s massively frustrating to the fanbase when we keep getting deductions and embargoes due to the owner - who no one has any time for particularly, keeps getting the team punished in a way that affects the fans for things we’ve had no influence on whatsoever like late wage payments
I mean it’s not ‘us’ that have misbehaved. It’s not the players either who we most identify with. It’s the incompetent owner who we have no control over pretty much alone
Every fan would be of the mindset that the wages should be paid on time, the tax bill should be paid. But it’s us that gets hit when those things don’t happen by having points gained taken away and having trouble signing anyone. I’m sure we all want these problems to go away
It’s a tricky one - you can’t blame fans for being properly annoyed at it all. Think the EFL pushing for a harsher penalty than what was deemed justified isn’t going to improve the mood either
If you're going to argue its not 'us' that offends, well its not 'us' that is being punished. Club and owner offends, club and owner punished.
'We' haven't lost points or been fined. Our ability to go to games is unaffected.
The EFL were pushing for punishments within the guidelines the club agreed to. The club argued their case better so the independent panel deviated from the 'non-binding' guidelines.
You have your faults but surely you're magnanimous enough to know that’s total tosh. Any affect on the team is affecting the fans. Points deductions do that more than anything. I doubt it’s Sandra in sales’ fault but she could have lost her job, because we got relegated, because of points deductions. A football club is not an average business, no one turns up twice a week to cheer your name and celebrate when you do your job. Any punishments like these really affect the fanbase, often whose main purpose is their football club. We at Reading, curtesy of geography, opportunity and or education, are fortunate for that to apply less than some. Dai doesn’t give a shit about a poxy point here or there. We as fans, do. Unfortunately. I don’t know a solution (get better owners) harsher fines against the individual, ultimately leading to administration (without points deductions but see the problem with that) if they fail to pay. Guess just get lucky with good owners! The whole thing sucks thought, traditionally. No idea what will happen in the future but the Saudis will come and go one the official directives change, just like China. as Reading fans we had a good club, the Reading way, we weren’t a big club but we were well run and often played exciting attacking football. I miss those days.
I’ve partially argued against it for various reasons but I’d like to see us back in the prem before I die (under good leadership/management/clear-attractive identity) as being there consistently is our only chance of ever growing the club. Even these days relegated clubs are at such an advantage. Don’t even know if I’ll live to see us promoted from this league currently. At the moment I’m just “happy” to see what I can see. Watching the youth play with intent and pace is just so unlike anything we’ve seen for ages so I’m enjoying it as long as it lasts.
But yeah it’s important we go up as soon as possible but our best bet is to build a squad capable of being a championship competitive side. It makes me sad I can’t enjoy football (or anything these days) as much as before the surgery but hopefully in time I’ll be able to. The one positive is that the negatives are irksome but really not that annoying. Was more pissed off I got rained on at pv rather than the result or the performance.
Not reading all that after the first couple of sentences which were drivel.
