MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by Royal_jimmy » 04 Sep 2023 22:19

John Madejski's Wallet I actually quite enjoyed that game. Pace was exciting at times. We had our chances (they had more tbf), and fukk me WiFi should have started.

We are what we are. A very inexperienced team trying to build something.


You enjoyed us losing to Cambridge without looking even remotely threatening jesus christ :lol: :lol:

We didn't look like winning. Got the result we deserved.

This is the worst Reading side I've ever seen.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by WestYorksRoyal » 04 Sep 2023 22:20

Need strikers fit. Vickers and Azeez were not suited - a couple of decent balls in where nobody was attacking it. Ballard, Kelvin E and Smith will help us improve.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by Hound » 04 Sep 2023 22:22

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But yet this is what most of the fans wanted, a younger team. It’s just a shame they lack quality and maybe a bit of confidence at the moment. Too inconsistent, not just game-by-game but in actual moments in games as well. Needs to improve.


Yeah and rather than crying about it should realise that it’ll take time - not 2-3 games - to come together.

Don’t like the excuse but we’re missing big players as well in Wing, Smith and Ehib not being fully fit. Then Ballard, Mukairo, Ejaria who may or may not make a big difference

I thought we did ok. Made some chances, Cambridge didn’t really create a lot outside of set pieces.

Lack of quality on the ball at times was disappointing but I can’t say it’s a huge surprise


I thought we were passive throughout really, with a couple of spells where we threatened, but not much other than that.

They should have been in front inside 60 seconds and missed an absolute sitter from virtually a yard. The team that won was the one who created the better chances and eventually took one. Our best was the mass gathering in the box in the first half, which should have been a goal. But if both teams took their best chances tonight, we’d have still lost, it’s not as if we were unlucky.

Wing and Smith will be important, but there was enough, more than enough to deliver more tonight and beat Cambridge. I know people say give it time for them to develop, but lets just hope they don’t go the same way as Azeez seems to be heading at the moment.


Is there more than enough? It’s a team of u21 kids. Cambridge are a steady league 1 side

Abbey, Carson, Savage, Eliot, Ehib, Vickers, Azeez prob have less than 50 games between them

The experienced players we have except Knibbs are basically cast offs

It’s the way we’ve chosen to go mainly due to Dais uselessness. It’s clearly going to be tough - thinking we should just turn up and win games like this is nonsense.

It’ll take time and patience

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by blythspartan » 04 Sep 2023 22:22

Well that was very poor, hoof ball to two diminutive forwards didn’t work. Again, we lose by the odd goal and make the other team look good.

I am looking forward to the international break and I hope Selles can use the time wisely. I’d still like to see us sign an experienced striker or midfielder. I’ll still give it 10+ games but this isn’t working atm. Not sure why he brought off Elliot tbh. I hate to think what a decent Bolton team will do for us in the next game.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by Orion1871 » 04 Sep 2023 22:24

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NathStPaul You only win small penis contests.


You'd be a champion then


You wouldn't even qualify as you at least need a penis to take part in the competition.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by Gunny Fishcake » 04 Sep 2023 22:24

This isn’t really bad yet, we’ve a long way to go before we hit rock bottom , big question is where do we go from there, when ever that may be, it really is very sad

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 04 Sep 2023 22:25

blythspartan Well that was very poor, hoof ball to two diminutive forwards didn’t work. Again, we lose by the odd goal and make the other team look good.

I am looking forward to the international break and I hope Selles can use the time wisely. I’d still like to see us sign an experienced striker or midfielder. I’ll still give it 10+ games but this isn’t working atm. Not sure why he brought off Elliot tbh. I hate to think what a decent Bolton team will do for us in the next game.

I dispute that we made Cambridge look good.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by Orion1871 » 04 Sep 2023 22:29

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Yeah and rather than crying about it should realise that it’ll take time - not 2-3 games - to come together.

Don’t like the excuse but we’re missing big players as well in Wing, Smith and Ehib not being fully fit. Then Ballard, Mukairo, Ejaria who may or may not make a big difference

I thought we did ok. Made some chances, Cambridge didn’t really create a lot outside of set pieces.

Lack of quality on the ball at times was disappointing but I can’t say it’s a huge surprise


I thought we were passive throughout really, with a couple of spells where we threatened, but not much other than that.

They should have been in front inside 60 seconds and missed an absolute sitter from virtually a yard. The team that won was the one who created the better chances and eventually took one. Our best was the mass gathering in the box in the first half, which should have been a goal. But if both teams took their best chances tonight, we’d have still lost, it’s not as if we were unlucky.

Wing and Smith will be important, but there was enough, more than enough to deliver more tonight and beat Cambridge. I know people say give it time for them to develop, but lets just hope they don’t go the same way as Azeez seems to be heading at the moment.


Is there more than enough? It’s a team of u21 kids. Cambridge are a steady league 1 side

Abbey, Carson, Savage, Eliot, Ehib, Vickers, Azeez prob have less than 50 games between them

The experienced players we have except Knibbs are basically cast offs

It’s the way we’ve chosen to go mainly due to Dais uselessness. It’s clearly going to be tough - thinking we should just turn up and win games like this is nonsense.

It’ll take time and patience


Considering they barely survived last season I think you're being generous to them.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by under the tin » 04 Sep 2023 22:30

WestYorksRoyal Need strikers fit. Vickers and Azeez were not suited - a couple of decent balls in where nobody was attacking it. Ballard, Kelvin E and Smith will help us improve.

Selles set the team up wrong from the start.
Two shortish inexperienced players up against Morro and the other Cambridge bloke were never doing to win aerial balls put in (occaisionally) in from the flanks by Carson & Co.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 04 Sep 2023 22:33

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I thought we were passive throughout really, with a couple of spells where we threatened, but not much other than that.

They should have been in front inside 60 seconds and missed an absolute sitter from virtually a yard. The team that won was the one who created the better chances and eventually took one. Our best was the mass gathering in the box in the first half, which should have been a goal. But if both teams took their best chances tonight, we’d have still lost, it’s not as if we were unlucky.

Wing and Smith will be important, but there was enough, more than enough to deliver more tonight and beat Cambridge. I know people say give it time for them to develop, but lets just hope they don’t go the same way as Azeez seems to be heading at the moment.


Is there more than enough? It’s a team of u21 kids. Cambridge are a steady league 1 side

Abbey, Carson, Savage, Eliot, Ehib, Vickers, Azeez prob have less than 50 games between them

The experienced players we have except Knibbs are basically cast offs

It’s the way we’ve chosen to go mainly due to Dais uselessness. It’s clearly going to be tough - thinking we should just turn up and win games like this is nonsense.

It’ll take time and patience


Considering they barely survived last season I think you're being generous to them.

4 wins in 6 this season.

Unlike us they had the bottle to dig out a hole last season, and finished 14th the season before.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by windermereROYAL » 04 Sep 2023 22:34

So if Dai doesn`t put the 125% in by next week we could be bottom. defo bottom 4.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by Orion1871 » 04 Sep 2023 22:36

windermereROYAL So if Dai doesn`t put the 125% in by next week we could be bottom. defo bottom 4.


We'll soon be bottom 4 even if he does put the 125%.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by WestYorksRoyal » 04 Sep 2023 22:40

Gunny Fishcake This isn’t really bad yet, we’ve a long way to go before we hit rock bottom , big question is where do we go from there, when ever that may be, it really is very sad

I think we're close to the bottom. The recruitment this summer has been the best in recent memory and aligned to how the manager wants to play. We've barely had a pre season due to off field chaos, the squad are still getting to know each other. We have 3 strikers and we only had one 50% fit.

It was always going to be a slow start this season, but we've seen signs of what we can do. The past 2 games are disappointing, but things take time. I'd also note that we've already played 4 of the current top 6.

Next up are 2 tough games against Bolton and Blackpool, so I expect more crazed reactions if we get a bad result there.

But I think we will turn the corner this season, finish strongly and kick on next year. We need to hold our nerve and see the process through. Or we can go back to the managerial merry-go-round and rely upon the new manager bounce to keep us up each year, until eventually it doesn't.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by Royal_jimmy » 04 Sep 2023 22:56

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Gunny Fishcake This isn’t really bad yet, we’ve a long way to go before we hit rock bottom , big question is where do we go from there, when ever that may be, it really is very sad

I think we're close to the bottom. The recruitment this summer has been the best in recent memory and aligned to how the manager wants to play. We've barely had a pre season due to off field chaos, the squad are still getting to know each other. We have 3 strikers and we only had one 50% fit.

It was always going to be a slow start this season, but we've seen signs of what we can do. The past 2 games are disappointing, but things take time. I'd also note that we've already played 4 of the current top 6.

Next up are 2 tough games against Bolton and Blackpool, so I expect more crazed reactions if we get a bad result there.

But I think we will turn the corner this season, finish strongly and kick on next year. We need to hold our nerve and see the process through. Or we can go back to the managerial merry-go-round and rely upon the new manager bounce to keep us up each year, until eventually it doesn't.


We might turn a corner but the midfield that starts should change. Savage and Hutchinson don't look great as a pairing. Feel we lack balance in the team. We don't concede lots which is positive but is that because we've played shit opposition or because our defence is genuinely good?

We lost to a really bang average side tonight, and to be fair to Cambridge they deserved it. We're shit and need to improve and quickly.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by 72 bus » 04 Sep 2023 23:11

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WestYorksRoyal Need strikers fit. Vickers and Azeez were not suited - a couple of decent balls in where nobody was attacking it. Ballard, Kelvin E and Smith will help us improve.

Selles set the team up wrong from the start.
Two shortish inexperienced players up against Morro and the other Cambridge bloke were never doing to win aerial balls put in (occaisionally) in from the flanks by Carson & Co.


Azeez and Vickers wide with Knibbs central would have made more sense, once savage and Elliot went off we lost all shape (not that we had much in the first place)
Oh and Binden is far better than Dean

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by CountryRoyal » 04 Sep 2023 23:40

God Twitter really is full of gimps. People that think one of worst teams in the champ gets relegated and become world beaters. The team is so young and learning, we’re going to have results like this. I didn’t think it was bad, mostly, but no clue why kelvin didn’t start. I don’t like hutch or Azeez, Carson doesn’t seem ready and I don’t see the point in putting dean in if the “experience” doesn’t help us at least see out games. Rather we started Bindon.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by Royal_jimmy » 04 Sep 2023 23:54

CountryRoyal God Twitter really is full of gimps. People that think one of worst teams in the champ gets relegated and become world beaters. The team is so young and learning, we’re going to have results like this. I didn’t think it was bad, mostly, but no clue why kelvin didn’t start. I don’t like hutch or Azeez, Carson doesn’t seem ready and I don’t see the point in putting dean in if the “experience” doesn’t help us at least see out games. Rather we started Bindon.


Emotions are still high and I think whilst it might not have been a battering we didn't look like scoring all evening and were second best. We've also had a slow start to the season with one game where our players outscored the opposition who also had 10 men.

It's looking likely we will be near the bottom of this league as well unfortunately. Hopefully we won't be relegated again.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by URZZZZ » 05 Sep 2023 00:12

CountryRoyal God Twitter really is full of gimps. People that think one of worst teams in the champ gets relegated and become world beaters. The team is so young and learning, we’re going to have results like this. I didn’t think it was bad, mostly, but no clue why kelvin didn’t start. I don’t like hutch or Azeez, Carson doesn’t seem ready and I don’t see the point in putting dean in if the “experience” doesn’t help us at least see out games. Rather we started Bindon.


Thought Hutch was our best player after Abbey. Savage has been underwhelming after a promising start.

Same conundrum for the midfield though where the movement in the final third just isn’t good enough. You resort to percentage passes over the top or safe sideways passes.

The best teams constantly have the attacking players on the move. It forces the defenders into a choice, to follow the man or maintain the space they’re currently holding. Our attacking players just seem content on standing still and expect the ball to fall for them. We’re a reactive team (even that’s being generous) rather than a proactive team and that’s why we’ve been dire for too long now. Norwood being the example where he wasn’t good enough for 19th placed Reading and yet went onto secure his fourth promotion from the Championship last season. Ironic.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by URZZZZ » 05 Sep 2023 00:19

WestYorksRoyal We didn't play our game. Seems like they rattled us. Perhaps that Millwall performance was possible in a half empty stadium where the fans didn't care.

I'm not panicking yet as I never expected immediate promotion. But we need to use these 2 weeks well ahead of Bolton.


Millwall committed numbers forward (particularly after our early opener). Probably saw it as a home banker and consequently left us space to soak up the pressure and counter.

Your standard L1 team aren’t going to commit men forward to the same degree. Means we need a bit of guile and creativity to break down these well drilled defences, something we’ve unfortunately lacked so far

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Cambridge United (a)

by WestYorksRoyal » 05 Sep 2023 06:40

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Gunny Fishcake This isn’t really bad yet, we’ve a long way to go before we hit rock bottom , big question is where do we go from there, when ever that may be, it really is very sad

I think we're close to the bottom. The recruitment this summer has been the best in recent memory and aligned to how the manager wants to play. We've barely had a pre season due to off field chaos, the squad are still getting to know each other. We have 3 strikers and we only had one 50% fit.

It was always going to be a slow start this season, but we've seen signs of what we can do. The past 2 games are disappointing, but things take time. I'd also note that we've already played 4 of the current top 6.

Next up are 2 tough games against Bolton and Blackpool, so I expect more crazed reactions if we get a bad result there.

But I think we will turn the corner this season, finish strongly and kick on next year. We need to hold our nerve and see the process through. Or we can go back to the managerial merry-go-round and rely upon the new manager bounce to keep us up each year, until eventually it doesn't.


We might turn a corner but the midfield that starts should change. Savage and Hutchinson don't look great as a pairing. Feel we lack balance in the team. We don't concede lots which is positive but is that because we've played shit opposition or because our defence is genuinely good?

We lost to a really bang average side tonight, and to be fair to Cambridge they deserved it. We're shit and need to improve and quickly.

This is what I mean. "Need to improve and quickly". Or what? We sack the manager and tear everything up? Yes we need to improve, but we shouldn't expect an instant turnaround. As for Cambridge being "bang average", this is L1 now. They're not promotion candidates, but they have started the season well and are strong at home. Only top 6 sides should be targeting a win here.

We should be giving this process a chance until January as a bare minimum. And if by the end of the season we look good some weeks but still have a performance like last night in us others, that's enough. We need a clear style and identity; the consistency to win the league comes with playing together more as a team and experience. Selles only gets sacked if relegation looks likely after 15 - 20 games, or we're still playing like that most weeks at the end of the season.

It's frustrating. I was so fuming it took me ages to get to sleep last night. Year after year of shit football; the same away days in L1 as the Championship. But we need to break our downward spiral, and I think the summer's recruitment has given us a chance. Now it simply needs time.

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