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BFTG Blackpool

by stealthpapes » 23 Sep 2023 18:24

Well, sat at Preston Station.

That started promising, went bad, went really bad and then fizzled out, probably for the best.

Team seemed much more eager to put the ball forwards quickly than the last away games, which did not suit Ballard.

Soft penalty, rightly given.
Soft header for second.
Very soft third, don't stop!
Early (soft) fourth put game beyond us.

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by Royal_jimmy » 23 Sep 2023 18:31

Another spanking at Blackpool, really starting to dislike that place.

We capitulated after the penalty which was needless to give, we didn't mark anyone for the other 3 goals. Rhodes took his 3rd goal well and showed us how to finish.

Our unstoppable away form continues.

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by CountryRoyal » 23 Sep 2023 22:34

Well done to those who travelled.

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by Royal_jimmy » 23 Sep 2023 23:28

CountryRoyal Well done to those who travelled.


It was depressing enough

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by SouthDownsRoyal » 23 Sep 2023 23:44

Selles out


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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by Royal_jimmy » 24 Sep 2023 08:37

I think everyone's still in Blackpool and with the stuff there and fans drowning their sorrows after another hammering I'm not surprised.

Seriously though we've endured so much pain on the road, if it wasn't for the fact we have a new set of players then scenes like when Selles and the players came over at FT would be a lot more toxic than it was yesterday. If this was Leeds or Millwall there'd be proper uproar.

We have to improve and quickly. Even if we change it and put 10 men behind the ball and try to keep clean sheets, a few 0-0s would be an improvement on current form. Boring yes but the longer this goes on more questions will be asked of Selles' future. He needs time but he won't get it if he can't show that he can adapt.

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by blythspartan » 24 Sep 2023 09:33

Travelling back down today and upon reflection this is going to be the way it is with this young team. We virtually have an U23 team playing in a tough league one.

We’re lacking a bit of decent experience in midfield in my opinion. Someone like Hourihane, but ideally a couple of years younger. I don’t see any natural leaders like a Parky or Sidwell. We desperately need someone who can help out the youngsters and I am afraid Hutch isn’t the answer. He has the odd good game, but he’s a liability a lot of the time. I would give Craig a chance, although again he’s very young.

Hopefully, we can get enough points to survive and I think this group of players will improve during the course of the season, but it’s going to be a rollercoaster.

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by Snowball » 24 Sep 2023 10:04

blythspartan Travelling back down today and upon reflection this is going to be the way it is with this young team. We virtually have an U23 team playing in a tough league one.

We’re lacking a bit of decent experience in midfield in my opinion. Someone like Hourihane, but ideally a couple of years younger. I don’t see any natural leaders like a Parky or Sidwell. We desperately need someone who can help out the youngsters and I am afraid Hutch isn’t the answer. He has the odd good game, but he’s a liability a lot of the time. I would give Craig a chance, although again he’s very young.

Hopefully, we can get enough points to survive and I think this group of players will improve during the course of the season, but it’s going to be a rollercoaster.



This, but let's also remember we have now played

3rd BEAT Stevenage, their only league defeat in 9 games
4th Port Vale (our early team and lost by one goal)
6th Lost 2-1 to a very late goal
7th BEAT Bolton, only two league defeats, tipped for promotion
8th Lost 0-1 first game to Peterborough
10th Lost 1-0 to a late goal
14th A hammering, goals-wise*

and Cheltenham...

* Away to a decent side who have a good record
against us. We dominated possession for about
twenty minutes but looked toothless.

Big difference was they had 6 shots on target and 4 went in.
We had four shots on target, none went in, and OG is still our top scorer.

We have teams 12-13 15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23 to play

and 1-2-5-9

It's ONE result. Norwich (currently 6th in the Championship)
shipped SIX yesterday, to a mid-table side.

Stam's team shipped 7 at Norwich and still finished third.

Not underplaying the defeat, but it wasn't an unexpected one
and our second most senior player blundered to start the rot
and (according to reports) our captain had a shocker.

And try as I might I can't ignore our cup results WDW 15-2
and two of those games against Championship clubs.

There is not a lot wrong (except the away hoodo). Keep the faith

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by PieEater » 24 Sep 2023 10:07

stealthpapes Well, sat at Preston Station.

That started promising, went bad, went really bad and then fizzled out, probably for the best.

Team seemed much more eager to put the ball forwards quickly than the last away games, which did not suit Ballard.

Soft penalty, rightly given.
Soft header for second.
Very soft third, don't stop!
Early (soft) fourth put game beyond us.


+1
we were well in control before they hit us on the break and for some inexplicable reason Hutch dived in when he didn't need to. The second header was well taken but no marking and Button invisible.

We just don't seem to get any luck but I thought Blackpool's tactics won it for them, they were 352 but really 3142 and got everyone back behind the ball when we attacked - so we never had a final ball.

They attacked the left were Mola was pretty useless and lumped it to their new striker who beat Abbey every time.

Trains were a bit of a mess, they seem to cancel every one we wanted to get and we had 30min waits at Blackpool and Preston.


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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by WestYorksRoyal » 24 Sep 2023 10:09

blythspartan Travelling back down today and upon reflection this is going to be the way it is with this young team. We virtually have an U23 team playing in a tough league one.

We’re lacking a bit of decent experience in midfield in my opinion. Someone like Hourihane, but ideally a couple of years younger. I don’t see any natural leaders like a Parky or Sidwell. We desperately need someone who can help out the youngsters and I am afraid Hutch isn’t the answer. He has the odd good game, but he’s a liability a lot of the time. I would give Craig a chance, although again he’s very young.

Hopefully, we can get enough points to survive and I think this group of players will improve during the course of the season, but it’s going to be a rollercoaster.

Trouble is, our experienced "leaders" aren't up to the task. Yiadom has been one of our serial losers over the Pauno and PInce eras. Hutchinson was poor. I think Dean needs to play to be an experienced head in there, and then Wing is a bit older too.

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by Snowball » 24 Sep 2023 10:13

WestYorksRoyal Trouble is, our experienced "leaders" aren't up to the task. Yiadom has been one of our serial losers over the Pauno and PInce eras. Hutchinson was poor. I think Dean needs to play to be an experienced head in there, and then Wing is a bit older too.


I was wondering about Biden. He looked the business
up to his concussion. When he came back he had a terrible
first half, then seemed OK second half.

Not watched the last two games, so dunno, but maybe he is
not quite right, bring in Dean (or McIntyre) alongside Abbey for 2-3 games?

[EDIT]

On the other hand Bidon might be old and has other responsibilities.


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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by Mid Sussex Royal » 24 Sep 2023 10:34

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WestYorksRoyal Trouble is, our experienced "leaders" aren't up to the task. Yiadom has been one of our serial losers over the Pauno and PInce eras. Hutchinson was poor. I think Dean needs to play to be an experienced head in there, and then Wing is a bit older too.


I was wondering about Biden. He looked the business
up to his concussion. When he came back he had a terrible
first half, then seemed OK second half.

Not watched the last two games, so dunno, but maybe he is
not quite right, bring in Dean (or McIntyre) alongside Abbey for 2-3 games?

[EDIT]

On the other hand Bidon might be old and has other responsibilities.


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They were targeted yesterday along with Mola. Blackpool have a decent manager who's always been pretty spot on with tactics against us...add that to an experienced old pro up front.

Agree - bring back Dean (certainly away) and LB needs changing too, I'd go Tmac for now

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by Royalwaster » 24 Sep 2023 10:45

Mola was shockingly bad at LB --- he lost his man just before the penalty which forced Hutchinson's hand to dive in ... was at fault again for the third. I'd play McIntyre at LB as he's more composed than either of Carson or Mola ...


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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by WestYorksRoyal » 24 Sep 2023 10:53

Mola clearly has pedigree coming through the Chelsea academy, playing for England U21s and being signed by Stuttgart. But Blackburn fans had nothing good to say about him, and so far he's done little to prove them wrong. I'm hoping that he's still getting up to speed and will improve in the next month, but I can't help that think he was a bit of a panic signing who we wouldn't have gone for without the Dai imposed restrictions.

I agree out of position McIntyre could be the best option there for now.

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by Snowflake Royal » 24 Sep 2023 11:01

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blythspartan Travelling back down today and upon reflection this is going to be the way it is with this young team. We virtually have an U23 team playing in a tough league one.

We’re lacking a bit of decent experience in midfield in my opinion. Someone like Hourihane, but ideally a couple of years younger. I don’t see any natural leaders like a Parky or Sidwell. We desperately need someone who can help out the youngsters and I am afraid Hutch isn’t the answer. He has the odd good game, but he’s a liability a lot of the time. I would give Craig a chance, although again he’s very young.

Hopefully, we can get enough points to survive and I think this group of players will improve during the course of the season, but it’s going to be a rollercoaster.

Trouble is, our experienced "leaders" aren't up to the task. Yiadom has been one of our serial losers over the Pauno and PInce eras. Hutchinson was poor. I think Dean needs to play to be an experienced head in there, and then Wing is a bit older too.

Dean has played. Hasn't been great. And was a serial loser at Birmingham.

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by Snowflake Royal » 24 Sep 2023 11:07

WestYorksRoyal Mola clearly has pedigree coming through the Chelsea academy, playing for England U21s and being signed by Stuttgart. But Blackburn fans had nothing good to say about him, and so far he's done little to prove them wrong. I'm hoping that he's still getting up to speed and will improve in the next month, but I can't help that think he was a bit of a panic signing who we wouldn't have gone for without the Dai imposed restrictions.

I agree out of position McIntyre could be the best option there for now.

I'd go Guiness-Walker. He's not the best defensively, but he's better than Mola and he can get forward well. He does at least try to stop crosses.

McIntyre in at CB alongside Abbey. Yiadom can stay RB for now. (If NGW is injured then McIntyre @LB phasing Carson in slowly & Holmes with Abbey)

Wing and Savage in midfield. If that doesn't work, Rushesha or Craig an bring some hustle and bustle to the game.

Away from home I'm dropping Ballard and putting in an extra midfielder.

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by WestYorksRoyal » 24 Sep 2023 11:11

Agreed the formation needs to change away from home. 4-2-2-2 offers the full backs no protection, and if teams beat our press Savage and Hutchinson get overrun. It was 5-3-2 second half yesterday - perhaps that is worthwhile from the start next time.

Though in our 2 worst away games (yesterday and Vale) we started well, and if you score early the game is different. 5-3-2 or 4-5-1 hands initiative to the opposition from the start.

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by Snowflake Royal » 24 Sep 2023 11:32

WestYorksRoyal Agreed the formation needs to change away from home. 4-2-2-2 offers the full backs no protection, and if teams beat our press Savage and Hutchinson get overrun. It was 5-3-2 second half yesterday - perhaps that is worthwhile from the start next time.

Though in our 2 worst away games (yesterday and Vale) we started well, and if you score early the game is different. 5-3-2 or 4-5-1 hands initiative to the opposition from the start.

I think 5 at the back is too negative and still leaves the flanks exposed. The two upront are wasted because we don't get it to them.

So 4-5-1 away. Happy to stay with 4-4-2 at home (I reject the existance of 4-2-2-2, its stupid and not a thing.)

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by blythspartan » 24 Sep 2023 11:50

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WestYorksRoyal Agreed the formation needs to change away from home. 4-2-2-2 offers the full backs no protection, and if teams beat our press Savage and Hutchinson get overrun. It was 5-3-2 second half yesterday - perhaps that is worthwhile from the start next time.

Though in our 2 worst away games (yesterday and Vale) we started well, and if you score early the game is different. 5-3-2 or 4-5-1 hands initiative to the opposition from the start.

I think 5 at the back is too negative and still leaves the flanks exposed. The two upront are wasted because we don't get it to them.

So 4-5-1 away. Happy to stay with 4-4-2 at home (I reject the existance of 4-2-2-2, its stupid and not a thing.)


We definitely need more in midfield away from home so a 4-5-1 would be ideal. I have always thought that you should try and win your home games by attacking teams and putting them under pressure, but on the road you need to be resolute and hard to beat. I’d love to see us get an ugly draw or a 1-0 away win.

Selles needs to learn too and understand that the teams in this league aren’t going to allow you to rock up and play pretty football around them. We have to go into each away game with the mindset of doing whatever it takes not to lose.

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Re: BFTG Blackpool

by Snowball » 24 Sep 2023 11:54

When it works I love the fast short-passing interplay

But I think we have the perfect squad to play football on the break.

Plenty of speed and skill

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