Selles not out

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Should Selles be shown the door now before the inevitable mid season sacking

Yes (and appoint Ian)
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No (it's a wonderful appointment and he'll get the club to scale heights never before seen at Reading)
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44%
He won't be appointed in the first place
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10%
 
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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 29 Oct 2023 19:48

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Sentimental reasons. Might as well get McDermott back.

In all seriousness, what would you propose? You're clearly in the Selles out camp. I've seen a lot of opposition to promoting Hunt again. There are now experienced options like Ainsworth and Pardew available and people don't like those options either. Presumably there would be opposition to Pearson drom some. Are people expecting Guardiola?

What I'd like is a manager with recent success and experience in L1.

Not a washed up PL Name.

Not a 1 hit wonder who played terrible football. Although rather Ainsworth than Pardew.

We seem to have just missed the boat on Wilder unfortunately.

If our problems with ownership are coming to an end, we should be getting the right manager, not just anyone we can lay our hands on.

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Re: Selles out

by WestYorksRoyal » 29 Oct 2023 19:52

There is an unknown question in whether we can afford a new manager even with an ownership change. We're not out of the woods with EFL budget setting and monitoring, and I believe we'll have another 3 windows soft transfer embargo as a result of HMRC.

Ideally, a new owner would be able to come in and make decisions in the long term interest of the club. New manager, new contracts for the likes of Abbey, restructuring to get off field costs down. But all cost money in the short term. It would be very much in character for the EFL to continue punishing us for Dai's mistakes after he has gone.

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Re: Selles out

by Hound » 29 Oct 2023 19:56

Yeah any speculation may be moot anyway

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Re: Selles in

by Royal Ginger » 29 Oct 2023 22:27

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Where would you go for dinner with him?

I’d probably avoid Italian as he strikes me as the type that would attempt to order in the lingo but with a regional English accent stressing the ‘O’s

I can see him suiting a sombrero so maybe a tacky Mexican as long as they do a full Sports Direct mug of booze.

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Re: Selles out

by Four Of Clubs » 30 Oct 2023 00:01

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WestYorksRoyal There are now experienced options like Ainsworth and Pardew available and people don't like those options either. Presumably there would be opposition to Pearson drom some. Are people expecting Guardiola?

.... Pearson would be ok, actually thought he did ok with a crap team


....the City fan who posts on NLM, seems to think 'Big Nige' is not a well man, (severe back condition or suchlike) so his departure, though not well received by the fans, was not that unexpected. He has been particularly critical of his own club of late. :?

.... so if any truth at all in that, perhaps Pearson may not make himself available anyhow?


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Re: Selles out

by Hound » 30 Oct 2023 06:12

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WestYorksRoyal There are now experienced options like Ainsworth and Pardew available and people don't like those options either. Presumably there would be opposition to Pearson drom some. Are people expecting Guardiola?

.... Pearson would be ok, actually thought he did ok with a crap team


....the City fan who posts on NLM, seems to think 'Big Nige' is not a well man, (severe back condition or suchlike) so his departure, though not well received by the fans, was not that unexpected. He has been particularly critical of his own club of late. :?

.... so if any truth at all in that, perhaps Pearson may not make himself available anyhow?


Yeah he doesn’t look in great nick atm. Hopefully it’s nothing serious

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Re: Selles out

by blythspartan » 30 Oct 2023 07:36

I’m not sure about Pardew as he hasn’t managed at this level for years. I think I’d go for Danny Cowley mainly based on what he did at Lincoln a few years ago.

However, Pardew >>>Selles, so I can kind of see some logic to bringing him in. I really hope this is all sorted out before Christmas.

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Re: Selles out

by Hound » 30 Oct 2023 08:20

Pardew hasn’t managed at this level for a very long time

Still he has at least still been in management - not esp successfully I might add - overseas

He’s a bit younger than I thought. Tbh wouldn’t be massively against it as he was a good manager in his time

Still better options out there though

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 30 Oct 2023 08:24

Hound Pardew hasn’t managed at this level for a very long time

Still he has at least still been in management - not esp successfully I might add - overseas

He’s a bit younger than I thought. Tbh wouldn’t be massively against it as he was a good manager in his time

Still better options out there though

I feel his ego started getting in the way towards the end.

Don't see him as one to nurture the kids. More likely to demand millions for transfers... is it possible our embargo gets wiped with the clearance of debts and ownership change?


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Re: Selles out

by blythspartan » 30 Oct 2023 09:06

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Hound Pardew hasn’t managed at this level for a very long time

Still he has at least still been in management - not esp successfully I might add - overseas

He’s a bit younger than I thought. Tbh wouldn’t be massively against it as he was a good manager in his time

Still better options out there though

I feel his ego started getting in the way towards the end.

Don't see him as one to nurture the kids. More likely to demand millions for transfers... is it possible our embargo gets wiped with the clearance of debts and ownership change?


I don’t think the embargo would get wiped out, but no idea tbh.

If the takeover happens and we get a new manager do think we’ll sell a couple of our youngsters in January so that we can bring in a few more experienced players to bulk up the squad? Or do you feel that we have enough to survive with the right manager in place?

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Re: Selles out

by under the tin » 30 Oct 2023 09:29

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Hound Pardew hasn’t managed at this level for a very long time

Still he has at least still been in management - not esp successfully I might add - overseas

He’s a bit younger than I thought. Tbh wouldn’t be massively against it as he was a good manager in his time

Still better options out there though

I feel his ego started getting in the way towards the end.

Don't see him as one to nurture the kids. More likely to demand millions for transfers... is it possible our embargo gets wiped with the clearance of debts and ownership change?


I don’t think the embargo would get wiped out, but no idea tbh.

If the takeover happens and we get a new manager do think we’ll sell a couple of our youngsters in January so that we can bring in a few more experienced players to bulk up the squad? Or do you feel that we have enough to survive with the right manager in place?


Right manager is all it's gonna take IMHO.
It's been demonstrated over the decades so many times at so many different clubs with different squads.
People like Allardyce, Warnock & co have built their reputations by solidifying the training, tactics and game plan.
Bring a different mentality.
Make your side difficult to break down, frustrate the oppo. and maybe nick a jammy winner here and there.

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Re: Selles out

by stealthpapes » 30 Oct 2023 09:35

À la recherche du temps Pardew

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Re: Selles out

by WestYorksRoyal » 30 Oct 2023 09:38

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Snowflake Royal I feel his ego started getting in the way towards the end.

Don't see him as one to nurture the kids. More likely to demand millions for transfers... is it possible our embargo gets wiped with the clearance of debts and ownership change?


I don’t think the embargo would get wiped out, but no idea tbh.

If the takeover happens and we get a new manager do think we’ll sell a couple of our youngsters in January so that we can bring in a few more experienced players to bulk up the squad? Or do you feel that we have enough to survive with the right manager in place?


Right manager is all it's gonna take IMHO.
It's been demonstrated over the decades so many times at so many different clubs with different squads.
People like Allardyce, Warnock & co have built their reputations by solidifying the training, tactics and game plan.
Bring a different mentality.
Make your side difficult to break down, frustrate the oppo. and maybe nick a jammy winner here and there.

This. The current squad can easily survive with the right manager. Only position to strengthen in January is LB


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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 30 Oct 2023 09:41

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Hound Pardew hasn’t managed at this level for a very long time

Still he has at least still been in management - not esp successfully I might add - overseas

He’s a bit younger than I thought. Tbh wouldn’t be massively against it as he was a good manager in his time

Still better options out there though

I feel his ego started getting in the way towards the end.

Don't see him as one to nurture the kids. More likely to demand millions for transfers... is it possible our embargo gets wiped with the clearance of debts and ownership change?


I don’t think the embargo would get wiped out, but no idea tbh.

If the takeover happens and we get a new manager do think we’ll sell a couple of our youngsters in January so that we can bring in a few more experienced players to bulk up the squad? Or do you feel that we have enough to survive with the right manager in place?

I think we have enough, but we can definitely afford to lose a CB or 2 from Holmes, McIntyre, Dean, Mbengue, Abbey, Bindon, Dorsett, Stickland and Clarke

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Re: Selles out

by stealthpapes » 30 Oct 2023 09:42

blythspartan I’m not sure about Pardew as he hasn’t managed at this level for years. I think I’d go for Danny Cowley mainly based on what he did at Lincoln a few years ago.

However, Pardew >>>Selles, so I can kind of see some logic to bringing him in. I really hope this is all sorted out before Christmas.


yeah, more seriously, didn't realise Cowley was even possible available. Longer term, he'd be a very solid shout.

Pardew tho'.


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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 30 Oct 2023 09:44

Has he gone yet?

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Re: Selles out

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 30 Oct 2023 10:21

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Snowflake Royal I feel his ego started getting in the way towards the end.

Don't see him as one to nurture the kids. More likely to demand millions for transfers... is it possible our embargo gets wiped with the clearance of debts and ownership change?


I don’t think the embargo would get wiped out, but no idea tbh.

If the takeover happens and we get a new manager do think we’ll sell a couple of our youngsters in January so that we can bring in a few more experienced players to bulk up the squad? Or do you feel that we have enough to survive with the right manager in place?

I think we have enough, but we can definitely afford to lose a CB or 2 from Holmes, McIntyre, Dean, Mbengue, Abbey, Bindon, Dorsett, Stickland and Clarke


Yes - depends on if a new manager comes in, if the ownership changes before then etc. I think Holmes, McIntyre and Mbengue out of the lot would provide some resale value to some clubs in the Championship without losing much at all in our team. Abbey has probably been our standout player though, so would probably be the one sought after.

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Re: Selles out

by Franchise FC » 30 Oct 2023 12:45

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Snowflake Royal I feel his ego started getting in the way towards the end.

Don't see him as one to nurture the kids. More likely to demand millions for transfers... is it possible our embargo gets wiped with the clearance of debts and ownership change?


I don’t think the embargo would get wiped out, but no idea tbh.

If the takeover happens and we get a new manager do think we’ll sell a couple of our youngsters in January so that we can bring in a few more experienced players to bulk up the squad? Or do you feel that we have enough to survive with the right manager in place?


Right manager is all it's gonna take IMHO.
It's been demonstrated over the decades so many times at so many different clubs with different squads.
People like Allardyce, Warnock & co have built their reputations by solidifying the training, tactics and game plan.
Bring a different mentality.
Make your side difficult to break down, frustrate the oppo. and maybe nick a jammy winner here and there.

You are Paul Ince AICMFP

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Re: Selles out

by Stranded » 30 Oct 2023 12:47

If a takeover is close then baring a massive uptick in results and performances, then you would have to say he is a dead man walking. The longer it drags out, the greater the potential damage.

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 30 Oct 2023 12:50

Stranded If a takeover is close then baring a massive uptick in results and performances, then you would have to say he is a dead man walking. The longer it drags out, the greater the potential damage.

You'd gave to say there's zero chance Selles finishes the season, and if he makes it to December it'll be a disaster.

We played better against Pompey. He basically has one more game to translate that shape and performance into a result, otherwise he may as well wfh.

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