Selles not out

[Stranded]

If a takeover is close then baring a massive uptick in results and performances, then you would have to say he is a dead man walking. The longer it drags out, the greater the potential damage.

You'd gave to say there's zero chance Selles finishes the season, and if he makes it to December it'll be a disaster.

We played better against Pompey. He basically has one more game to translate that shape and performance into a result, otherwise he may as well wfh.

The major caveat is the length it takes for the takeover to complete and what happens in between - as you say, we played pretty well on Saturday and he changed formation - if that continues and say we are still 3 or 4 weeks away then if we go on a winning run, he may be kept on but I do doubt it at this point.

I wanted the guy to be a success but doesn't look probable.

[Snowflake Royal]

If a takeover is close then baring a massive uptick in results and performances, then you would have to say he is a dead man walking. The longer it drags out, the greater the potential damage.

You'd gave to say there's zero chance Selles finishes the season, and if he makes it to December it'll be a disaster.

We played better against Pompey. He basically has one more game to translate that shape and performance into a result, otherwise he may as well wfh.

The major caveat is the length it takes for the takeover to complete and what happens in between - as you say, we played pretty well on Saturday and he changed formation - if that continues and say we are still 3 or 4 weeks away then if we go on a winning run, he may be kept on but I do doubt it at this point.

I wanted the guy to be a success but doesn't look probable.

I don’t even want him to turn it around after how he's subjected the young players to abuse multiple times for no reason.

He'll probably revert to type and say the different shape didn’t work against Pompey, or was just for them.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Not sure how much to read into Saturday's performance. Struggling teams are often good at a valiant effort against table toppers, before reverting to type in crunch matches against teams around them. You see it at all levels. It's the pressure.

[Hound]

If a takeover is close then baring a massive uptick in results and performances, then you would have to say he is a dead man walking. The longer it drags out, the greater the potential damage.

You'd gave to say there's zero chance Selles finishes the season, and if he makes it to December it'll be a disaster.

We played better against Pompey. He basically has one more game to translate that shape and performance into a result, otherwise he may as well wfh.

The major caveat is the length it takes for the takeover to complete and what happens in between - as you say, we played pretty well on Saturday and he changed formation - if that continues and say we are still 3 or 4 weeks away then if we go on a winning run, he may be kept on but I do doubt it at this point.

I wanted the guy to be a success but doesn't look probable.

He’s done. He can’t motivate us properly, confidence is rock bottom and cannot find a way to grind out results despite often being the equal if not the better side in games

Guess any change in formation is a bit of a last throw of the dice more than anything. It won’t fix the fundamental issues we have on the playing side

He’s only chance really is this takeover being protracted long enough that we scrape a few wins and get on a bit of a roll but can’t see it

[Hound]

Not sure how much to read into Saturday's performance. Struggling teams are often good at a valiant effort against table toppers, before reverting to type in crunch matches against teams around them. You see it at all levels. It's the pressure.

We still conceded soft goals (ie the 2nd), missed chances and conceded far too many chances ourselves

Same as nearly every other game this season

[under the tin]

Not sure how much to read into Saturday's performance. Struggling teams are often good at a valiant effort against table toppers, before reverting to type in crunch matches against teams around them. You see it at all levels. It's the pressure.

We still conceded soft goals (ie the 2nd), missed chances and conceded far too many chances ourselves

Same as nearly every other game this season

Re; performance
For me, Pompey were not at the races for the first 20-30 minutes or so, then the 0-2 football mentality kicked in, they got their collective A into G, played like a top of the table side for the next 30-40 minutes, got in front, then took their foot off the gas a bit and managed the game out.

[blythspartan]

Not sure how much to read into Saturday's performance. Struggling teams are often good at a valiant effort against table toppers, before reverting to type in crunch matches against teams around them. You see it at all levels. It's the pressure.

We still conceded soft goals (ie the 2nd), missed chances and conceded far too many chances ourselves.

Same as nearly every other game this season

Re; performance
For me, Pompey were not at the races for the first 20-30 minutes or so, then the 0-2 football mentality kicked in, they got their collective A into G, played like a top of the table side for the next 30-40 minutes, got in front, then took their foot off the gas a bit and managed the game out.

Yep, pretty much this.

For me, Selles doesn’t know his best eleven and his team selections are bizarre at times and he has no idea how to effect a game with substitutions. To think, we have gradually been getting worse this season and we started from such a low point to begin with.

[Franchise FC]

You'd gave to say there's zero chance Selles finishes the season, and if he makes it to December it'll be a disaster.

We played better against Pompey. He basically has one more game to translate that shape and performance into a result, otherwise he may as well wfh.

The major caveat is the length it takes for the takeover to complete and what happens in between - as you say, we played pretty well on Saturday and he changed formation - if that continues and say we are still 3 or 4 weeks away then if we go on a winning run, he may be kept on but I do doubt it at this point.

I wanted the guy to be a success but doesn't look probable.

I don’t even want him to turn it around after how he's subjected the young players to abuse multiple times for no reason.

He'll probably revert to type and say the different shape didn’t work against Pompey, or was just for them.

So you wanted us relegated because it would make things better and now you don’t want the manager to succeed, even in the short term, because that’ll lead us back to the sunlit uplands.
Got it.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

You'd gave to say there's zero chance Selles finishes the season, and if he makes it to December it'll be a disaster.

We played better against Pompey. He basically has one more game to translate that shape and performance into a result, otherwise he may as well wfh.

The major caveat is the length it takes for the takeover to complete and what happens in between - as you say, we played pretty well on Saturday and he changed formation - if that continues and say we are still 3 or 4 weeks away then if we go on a winning run, he may be kept on but I do doubt it at this point.

I wanted the guy to be a success but doesn't look probable.

I don’t even want him to turn it around after how he's subjected the young players to abuse multiple times for no reason.

He'll probably revert to type and say the different shape didn’t work against Pompey, or was just for them.

Eh? So we finally get someone who trusts the youngsters and starts them (probably too much faith imo) and now that's still a problem because they've been subject to abuse? But you criticised Ince last season as he didn't trust them enough? And now you don't want our manager to be a success? Make your mind up.

[under the tin]

The major caveat is the length it takes for the takeover to complete and what happens in between - as you say, we played pretty well on Saturday and he changed formation - if that continues and say we are still 3 or 4 weeks away then if we go on a winning run, he may be kept on but I do doubt it at this point.

I wanted the guy to be a success but doesn't look probable.

I don’t even want him to turn it around after how he's subjected the young players to abuse multiple times for no reason.

He'll probably revert to type and say the different shape didn’t work against Pompey, or was just for them.

Eh? So we finally get someone who trusts the youngsters and starts them (probably too much faith imo) and now that's still a problem because they've been subject to abuse? But you criticised Ince last season as he didn't trust them enough? And now you don't want our manager to be a success? Make your mind up.

Whilst I totally share your joy at seeing the young players being "given a go", just look at Selles' team/squad selections week on week.
First team one week, not even on the bench the following one.
It's like duck shooting with a sawn-off 12 bore. Scatter shot. Shoot and hope.
Personally, it's not that I want Selles to fail, it's more of a matter that I expect him to fail because he doesn't know what constitutes his strongest X1, nor does he know how to utilise his available playing resources. Bindon RB one week, CB the next.
Using young players out of position will do nothing for their confidence.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I don’t even want him to turn it around after how he's subjected the young players to abuse multiple times for no reason.

He'll probably revert to type and say the different shape didn’t work against Pompey, or was just for them.

Eh? So we finally get someone who trusts the youngsters and starts them (probably too much faith imo) and now that's still a problem because they've been subject to abuse? But you criticised Ince last season as he didn't trust them enough? And now you don't want our manager to be a success? Make your mind up.

Whilst I totally share your joy at seeing the young players being "given a go", just look at Selles' team/squad selections week on week.
First team one week, not even on the bench the following one.
It's like duck shooting with a sawn-off 12 bore. Scatter shot. Shoot and hope.
Personally, it's not that I want Selles to fail, it's more of a matter that I expect him to fail because he doesn't know what constitutes his strongest X1, nor does he know how to utilise his available playing resources. Bindon RB one week, CB the next.
Using young players out of position will do nothing for their confidence.

I don't disagree necessarily that chopping and changing doesn't help with continuity, although Bindon I thought was because we didn't have a fit RB with Mbengue and Abrefa injured and Yiadom suspended. People say Rushesha played RB at youth level but it doesn't mean he's genuinely good there, it could have been Bindon was the best of a bad bunch in that position at that time.

I agree, I don't think he knows his best XI nor does he know how to utilise our resources as effectively as he could/should, but the comment was more that people bemoaned Ince for never using/trusting the youth, now Selles is the problem because he's allegedly subjecting them to abuse when they are playing? Well the team is losing and the club is at a very low point, that will happen unfortunately, that's just professional football. You can't always shield players from criticism just because they are young.

[Snowflake Royal]

The major caveat is the length it takes for the takeover to complete and what happens in between - as you say, we played pretty well on Saturday and he changed formation - if that continues and say we are still 3 or 4 weeks away then if we go on a winning run, he may be kept on but I do doubt it at this point.

I wanted the guy to be a success but doesn't look probable.

I don’t even want him to turn it around after how he's subjected the young players to abuse multiple times for no reason.

He'll probably revert to type and say the different shape didn’t work against Pompey, or was just for them.

So you wanted us relegated because it would make things better and now you don’t want the manager to succeed, even in the short term, because that’ll lead us back to the sunlit uplands.
Got it.

No, not really.

[Snowflake Royal]

The major caveat is the length it takes for the takeover to complete and what happens in between - as you say, we played pretty well on Saturday and he changed formation - if that continues and say we are still 3 or 4 weeks away then if we go on a winning run, he may be kept on but I do doubt it at this point.

I wanted the guy to be a success but doesn't look probable.

I don’t even want him to turn it around after how he's subjected the young players to abuse multiple times for no reason.

He'll probably revert to type and say the different shape didn’t work against Pompey, or was just for them.

Eh? So we finally get someone who trusts the youngsters and starts them (probably too much faith imo) and now that's still a problem because they've been subject to abuse? But you criticised Ince last season as he didn't trust them enough? And now you don't want our manager to be a success? Make your mind up.

It's not oxf*rd difficult.

What I'd like is a good manager who makes the most of his resources. Just handing out appearances to young players, often when there isn’t much alternative is not a high enough bar for me.

I want him gone. A week ago. He's shit. He was always likely to be shit. His two redeeming features are playing young players and using his bench. Woo. Not good enough. I want shot and I don't want him to turn anything around because he's a prick and it extends his time here.

Directing the young players to stand infront of the fans and take dog's abuse for his failings is unacceptably poor management.

There is nothing inconsistent about my views on Ince and Selles.

[Hound]

His selections have been very scattergun. Camara the latest to appear then disappear. Definitely some favourites there (Savage, Azeez) who haven’t necessarily earnt tbe appearances they’ve had (like both of them but they’ve been up and down) whilst the likes of Rushesha seem to never get the chance.

Yeah think the weird standing in front of fans thing was a turning point for me. What exactly was that about. Just go and clap them for a bit and then go inside, simple stuff

[URZZZZ]

His selections have been very scattergun. Camara the latest to appear then disappear. Definitely some favourites there (Savage, Azeez) who haven’t necessarily earnt tbe appearances they’ve had (like both of them but they’ve been up and down) whilst the likes of Rushesha seem to never get the chance.

Yeah think the weird standing in front of fans thing was a turning point for me. What exactly was that about. Just go and clap them for a bit and then go inside, simple stuff

Knibbs too. Coasts through games and offers little. Works hard but it’s time to give the likes of Elliott, Vickers and Mukairu a chance

[rabidbee]

À la recherche du temps Pardew

Underrated post.

[LUX]

it is very good indeed.

'specially for a scientist.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I don’t even want him to turn it around after how he's subjected the young players to abuse multiple times for no reason.

He'll probably revert to type and say the different shape didn’t work against Pompey, or was just for them.

Eh? So we finally get someone who trusts the youngsters and starts them (probably too much faith imo) and now that's still a problem because they've been subject to abuse? But you criticised Ince last season as he didn't trust them enough? And now you don't want our manager to be a success? Make your mind up.

What I'd like is a good manager who makes the most of his resources. Just handing out appearances to young players, often when there isn’t much alternative is not a high enough bar for me.

So you want what we don't have basically, like any fan, got it. Just handing out appearances to these young players when we have little alternative is what you berated Ince for not doing, however now it's a problem when that happens.

I completely agree, I don't think they should have been stood in front of the fans for an inordinate amount of time, I can't see how that helped by I understand what the impact of that was meant to be.

[Snowflake Royal]

Eh? So we finally get someone who trusts the youngsters and starts them (probably too much faith imo) and now that's still a problem because they've been subject to abuse? But you criticised Ince last season as he didn't trust them enough? And now you don't want our manager to be a success? Make your mind up.

What I'd like is a good manager who makes the most of his resources. Just handing out appearances to young players, often when there isn’t much alternative is not a high enough bar for me.

So you want what we don't have basically, like any fan, got it. Just handing out appearances to these young players when we have little alternative is what you berated Ince for not doing, however now it's a problem when that happens.

I completely agree, I don't think they should have been stood in front of the fans for an inordinate amount of time, I can't see how that helped by I understand what the impact of that was meant to be.

No you don't. You think you've found an inconsistency by being simplistic, but you haven't.

Wanting Ince to use his available resources, not run a few players into the ground and help develop the youth does not mean if he'd handed out some more minutes I'd have thought he was doing a good job, but it would have been a possible solution to some of his myriad of problems and an improvement. It certainly wasn't my only criticism of him.

Selles giving minutes doesn't mean he's good. Just throwing an entire team of youth players in is not what I have ever suggested.

I don't just want the opposite of what is happening. The entire time I am consistent that I want a reasonably consistent XI, with opportunities for minutes for young players in a side with a blend of youth and experience, in a system that works for what we have available.

I don't think anyone with half a brain can translate me thinking he's a pcunt for exposing the young players repeatedly to hostility after games, that is really about him and Dai, is in anyway inconsistent with saying Ince should use his bench or try some youth and exuberance over tired old failure.

[stealthpapes]

À la recherche du temps Pardew

Underrated post.

To be fair, it was an old The Whiff front cover, but its a delight of a line.