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Re: We're ManchesteROFL United, we do what we want

by Whore Jackie » 06 Nov 2023 17:33

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Has to be Ndombele


Ndombele was only just over £55 million. Antony was £82 million. Both terrible buys, but Pépé at £72 million for Arsenal has got to be right up there.

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by Royal Rother » 06 Nov 2023 17:57

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Winston Biscuit Is Antony the worst signing in PL history?


Has to be Ndombele


Ndombele was only just over £55 million. Antony was £82 million. Both terrible buys, but Pépé at £72 million for Arsenal has got to be right up there.


I thought Pepe was abysmal (everything broke down when he got the ball as all he wanted to do was look flashy - Antony anyone?) but he did score 27 and 21 assists in 112 appearances, which I found very surprising.

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Re: We're ManchesteROFL United, we do what we want

by BRO_BOT » 06 Nov 2023 18:24

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Has to be Ndombele


Ndombele was only just over £55 million. Antony was £82 million. Both terrible buys, but Pépé at £72 million for Arsenal has got to be right up there.


I thought Pepe was abysmal (everything broke down when he got the ball as all he wanted to do was look flashy - Antony anyone?) but he did score 27 and 21 assists in 112 appearances, which I found very surprising.


think Anthony had 9/10 goals last year which isn't a total disaster just not £80Ms worth

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Re: We're ManchesteROFL United, we do what we want

by Royal Rother » 06 Nov 2023 21:20

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Ndombele was only just over £55 million. Antony was £82 million. Both terrible buys, but Pépé at £72 million for Arsenal has got to be right up there.


I thought Pepe was abysmal (everything broke down when he got the ball as all he wanted to do was look flashy - Antony anyone?) but he did score 27 and 21 assists in 112 appearances, which I found very surprising.


think Anthony had 9/10 goals last year which isn't a total disaster just not £80Ms worth


There were times last season where he looked like the real deal, but now that defenders have got his most dangerous move sussed he looks frustrated, angry and like he doesn’t have the intelligence or application to find another way.

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Re: We're ManchesteROFL United, we do what we want

by BRO_BOT » 06 Nov 2023 21:20

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I thought Pepe was abysmal (everything broke down when he got the ball as all he wanted to do was look flashy - Antony anyone?) but he did score 27 and 21 assists in 112 appearances, which I found very surprising.


think Anthony had 9/10 goals last year which isn't a total disaster just not £80Ms worth


There were times last season where he looked like the real deal, but now that defenders have got his most dangerous move sussed he looks frustrated, angry and like he doesn’t have the intelligence or application to find another way.


'cos he's shit :lol:


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by genome » 08 Nov 2023 22:22

Good lord.

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by LUX » 08 Nov 2023 22:24

Maximum lolz.

Another 100 000 defections to City/ Liverpool.

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by Royal Rother » 08 Nov 2023 22:29

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think Anthony had 9/10 goals last year which isn't a total disaster just not £80Ms worth


There were times last season where he looked like the real deal, but now that defenders have got his most dangerous move sussed he looks frustrated, angry and like he doesn’t have the intelligence or application to find another way.


'cos he's shit :lol:


Well yes, that too.

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Re: We're ManchesteROFL United, we do what we want

by Royal Rother » 09 Nov 2023 08:42

Rasmus Hojlund said, in all seriousness - "If you don't look at the result and only take the first 20 minutes into account we did quite well."


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Re: We're ManchesteROFL United, we do what we want

by NathStPaul » 09 Nov 2023 09:29

If they'd have scored more goals than Copenhagen they'd have won the game.

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by Franchise FC » 09 Nov 2023 11:42

NathStPaul If they'd have scored more goals than Copenhagen they'd have won the game.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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by BRO_BOT » 09 Nov 2023 12:08

Royal Rother Rasmus Hojlund said, in all seriousness - "If you don't look at the result and only take the first 20 minutes into account we did quite well."


He's a 20-year-old kid being interviewed after the game in a non-native language clumsily saying we played well until Rashford was sent off

The real issue is that they crumbled a 2-0 lead. Just shut up shop and be very hard to play against, show some strong mentality.

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by Franchise FC » 09 Nov 2023 12:30

Didn’t watch the game last night, but just caught up with the highlights, expecting to see a particularly controversial incident involving Rashford.

Just seen it and ….. the very definition of endangering an opponent and he was stamping down with his studs up a yard away from the ball so clearly not attempting to play the ball

Harsh penalties (both of them) but don’t see how United can claim they were unfairly treated


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by From Despair To Where? » 09 Nov 2023 12:54

BRO_BOT Minimino, Grujic , Klavan , Ramsay , Melo , Kabak , Davies , Van der Berg didn't light up any trees


I think the obvious points to make about those 8 signings is that they cost £34m in total, 2 were loans, 2 are 20 or younger and still at the club and 3 were sold for a profit with combined fees of £29m.

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by South Coast Royal » 09 Nov 2023 13:46

Franchise FC Didn’t watch the game last night, but just caught up with the highlights, expecting to see a particularly controversial incident involving Rashford.

Just seen it and ….. the very definition of endangering an opponent and he was stamping down with his studs up a yard away from the ball so clearly not attempting to play the ball

Harsh penalties (both of them) but don’t see how United can claim they were unfairly treated


Interesting that the two live commentators said "red card" but 2 Ex-Man Utd veterans in the studio said that it was no worse than a yellow-what a surprise.
The two penalties involving the slap head-the first was a penalty but you can see why it might not have been given but the second was just a charity gift to Man Utd to go 3-2 up.

Fortunately Man Utd's defence with that regular England starter commanding his area failed to stop Copenhagen scoring 2 more.
Galatasaray awaits for Ten Hag's brave (?) warriors.

So Brobot I guess last night's debacle was the fault of the Glazers as opposed to the manager or the players?

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by BRO_BOT » 09 Nov 2023 13:54

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BRO_BOT Minimino, Grujic , Klavan , Ramsay , Melo , Kabak , Davies , Van der Berg didn't light up any trees


I think the obvious points to make about those 8 signings is that they cost £34m in total, 2 were loans, 2 are 20 or younger and still at the club and 3 were sold for a profit with combined fees of £29m.


it's just a stat I see used a fair bit to judge signings. It doesn't say the other signings weren't successful* or useful (you need a 3rd choice keeper) just that they weren't regular first-team players. As stated, one in two is good.

Any other measure starts to get even more subjective

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Re: We're ManchesteROFL United, we do what we want

by BRO_BOT » 09 Nov 2023 14:03

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Franchise FC Didn’t watch the game last night, but just caught up with the highlights, expecting to see a particularly controversial incident involving Rashford.

Just seen it and ….. the very definition of endangering an opponent and he was stamping down with his studs up a yard away from the ball so clearly not attempting to play the ball

Harsh penalties (both of them) but don’t see how United can claim they were unfairly treated


Interesting that the two live commentators said "red card" but 2 Ex-Man Utd veterans in the studio said that it was no worse than a yellow-what a surprise.

The two penalties involving the slap head - the first was a penalty but you can see why it might not have been given but the second was just a charity gift to Man Utd to go 3-2 up.

Fortunately, Man Utd's defence with that regular England starter commanding his area failed to stop Copenhagen scoring 2 more.
Galatasaray awaits for Ten Hag's brave (?) warriors.

So Brobot I guess last night's debacle was the fault of the Glazers as opposed to the manager or the players?


It's on the players as stated today on CL thread (iirc)

The live commentator whom Utd have shown the door to both him and his son.

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by BRO_BOT » 09 Nov 2023 14:11

Franchise FC Didn’t watch the game last night, but just caught up with the highlights, expecting to see a particularly controversial incident involving Rashford.

Just seen it and ….. the very definition of endangering an opponent and he was stamping down with his studs up a yard away from the ball so clearly not attempting to play the ball

Harsh penalties (both of them) but don’t see how United can claim they were unfairly treated


You will see a similar challenge not given a red within the next week or two. It's a fairly standard way of shielding the ball. You get into a wide base and set as quickly as possible. I believe he was doing this.

It's the outcome that's the problem. It's very severe. I'm biased, both toward Utd and the old school, hence finding it difficult to judge

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Re: We're ManchesteROFL United, we do what we want

by South Coast Royal » 09 Nov 2023 14:19

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Franchise FC Didn’t watch the game last night, but just caught up with the highlights, expecting to see a particularly controversial incident involving Rashford.

Just seen it and ….. the very definition of endangering an opponent and he was stamping down with his studs up a yard away from the ball so clearly not attempting to play the ball

Harsh penalties (both of them) but don’t see how United can claim they were unfairly treated


Interesting that the two live commentators said "red card" but 2 Ex-Man Utd veterans in the studio said that it was no worse than a yellow-what a surprise.

The two penalties involving the slap head - the first was a penalty but you can see why it might not have been given but the second was just a charity gift to Man Utd to go 3-2 up.

Fortunately, Man Utd's defence with that regular England starter commanding his area failed to stop Copenhagen scoring 2 more.
Galatasaray awaits for Ten Hag's brave (?) warriors.

So Brobot I guess last night's debacle was the fault of the Glazers as opposed to the manager or the players?


It's on the players as stated today on CL thread (iirc)

The live commentator whom Utd have shown the door to both him and his son.


Savage has always been pro Man Utd when spouting stuff in the media.

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by From Despair To Where? » 09 Nov 2023 14:21

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BRO_BOT Minimino, Grujic , Klavan , Ramsay , Melo , Kabak , Davies , Van der Berg didn't light up any trees


I think the obvious points to make about those 8 signings is that they cost £34m in total, 2 were loans, 2 are 20 or younger and still at the club and 3 were sold for a profit with combined fees of £29m.


it's just a stat I see used a fair bit to judge signings. It doesn't say the other signings weren't successful* or useful (you need a 3rd choice keeper) just that they weren't regular first-team players. As stated, one in two is good.

Any other measure starts to get even more subjective


I think my wider point was really that Liverpool don't tend to overspend on players (granted they went big on VVD and Allison but they were both arguably one of the best players in the world in their position at the time), but more importantly, they seem to be able to move on fringe players for very decent prices.

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