Selles not out

[Sutekh]

The rumours at the time was that Dai and Pang refused to accept his resignation at first and he could have gone weeks earlier. But he hasn't confirmed that.

That figures, look at the idiot length of time Stam was left in charge too, then Ince. While you applaud their loyalty to giving managers time, you have to wonder why it's the same ****** mistakes being made over and over and no sign of learning anything. Thank god Dai is hopefully on the way out soon otherwise Selles could get several years here!

[Royalwaster]

Yeah we've got to be the most tolerant club of failure in the world!

[Stranded]

Joy of having an essentially absent owner.

[Snowflake Royal]

The rumours at the time was that Dai and Pang refused to accept his resignation at first and he could have gone weeks earlier. But he hasn't confirmed that.

That figures, look at the idiot length of time Stam was left in charge too, then Ince. While you applaud their loyalty to giving managers time, you have to wonder why it's the same ****** mistakes being made over and over and no sign of learning anything. Thank god Dai is hopefully on the way out soon otherwise Selles could get several years here!

They'd have to admit they made a mistake appointing them to sack anyone.

Dai doesn't make mistakes.

[Brogue]

Assume we are all selles in after tonight

Shame on you lot

[Snowflake Royal]

He can job swap with Hunt if he begs.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Assume we are all selles in after tonight

Shame on you lot

Agree, too much negativity on here fir someone trying their best in difficult circumstances

[Dennis the Butler]

If Selles is doing the best he can under very trying circumstances here what was his excuse at Southampton ?

[blythspartan]

I think IR eluded to this on the Arsenal thread. Our youngsters with a sprinkling of experience look like world beaters playing other teams U21s because they’ve had some league experience. However, that scenario is reversed when we play experienced League One teams.

I believe another manager with plenty of lower league experience should be able to get us winning enough games to survive this season, but I expect any change will be made too late.

I do think that this group of players with another year of league experience have the potential to become very good. That was obviously the aim of Bowen and co when they assembled the squad. I just hope we can get rid of Selles sooner rather than later.

[Royalwaster]

If Selles is doing the best he can under very trying circumstances here what was his excuse at Southampton ?

He was doing his best under very difficult circumstances ...

[WestYorksRoyal]

I think IR eluded to this on the Arsenal thread. Our youngsters with a sprinkling of experience look like world beaters playing other teams U21s because they’ve had some league experience. However, that scenario is reversed when we play experienced League One teams.

I believe another manager with plenty of lower league experience should be able to get us winning enough games to survive this season, but I expect any change will be made too late.

I do think that this group of players with another year of league experience have the potential to become very good. That was obviously the aim of Bowen and co when they assembled the squad. I just hope we can get rid of Selles sooner rather than later.

Question is, if ownership and management change happens too late, could the new regime keep the core of the team together in L2? You'd expect an instant return if so, but I can't imagine the likes of Smith and Wing wanting to fall to that level. But let's say we actually look good from late Feb or so, it may be a heroic failure from the new regime that convinces them it's worth hanging about for a couple of years.

Obviously if we fall to L2 with the current regime in place it's an utter disaster.

[Snowflake Royal]

If Selles is doing the best he can under very trying circumstances here what was his excuse at Southampton ?

He was doing his best under very difficult circumstances ...

His best is dreadful.

Anyone could do their best under difficult circumstances.

[Snowflake Royal]

I think IR eluded to this on the Arsenal thread. Our youngsters with a sprinkling of experience look like world beaters playing other teams U21s because they’ve had some league experience. However, that scenario is reversed when we play experienced League One teams.

I believe another manager with plenty of lower league experience should be able to get us winning enough games to survive this season, but I expect any change will be made too late.

I do think that this group of players with another year of league experience have the potential to become very good. That was obviously the aim of Bowen and co when they assembled the squad. I just hope we can get rid of Selles sooner rather than later.

Question is, if ownership and management change happens too late, could the new regime keep the core of the team together in L2? You'd expect an instant return if so, but I can't imagine the likes of Smith and Wing wanting to fall to that level. But let's say we actually look good from late Feb or so, it may be a heroic failure from the new regime that convinces them it's worth hanging about for a couple of years.

Obviously if we fall to L2 with the current regime in place it's an utter disaster.

Yes.

Barely any L1 teams could cough up enough to tempt us to sell our best young players to them.

Championship clubs could, but who realistically is going to pay hundreds of thousands or even millions for players who struggled in L1 with barely a season of games to go straight into their first team squad. I think a move to the Championship would probably see Abbey, Vickers, Ehibhatiomhan, Elliott, Bindon etc's career stall.

PL clubs could easily, but then these players will just go into their youth teams or go back out in loan to L1/Champ.

I don't see any great exodus. Two or three maybe. Probably Smith. Maybe Abbey or Savage.

Assuming the new owner could balance the finances with a sale or two.

[blythspartan]

I think IR eluded to this on the Arsenal thread. Our youngsters with a sprinkling of experience look like world beaters playing other teams U21s because they’ve had some league experience. However, that scenario is reversed when we play experienced League One teams.

I believe another manager with plenty of lower league experience should be able to get us winning enough games to survive this season, but I expect any change will be made too late.

I do think that this group of players with another year of league experience have the potential to become very good. That was obviously the aim of Bowen and co when they assembled the squad. I just hope we can get rid of Selles sooner rather than later.

Question is, if ownership and management change happens too late, could the new regime keep the core of the team together in L2? You'd expect an instant return if so, but I can't imagine the likes of Smith and Wing wanting to fall to that level. But let's say we actually look good from late Feb or so, it may be a heroic failure from the new regime that convinces them it's worth hanging about for a couple of years.

Obviously if we fall to L2 with the current regime in place it's an utter disaster.

I think if we drop to League Two we’ll probably lose some youngsters, but the likes of Smith and and Wing might be persuaded to stay. I think they are on longish contracts so if anyone wants to sign them they’ll have to pay a fee.

[leon]

IN! For the Great Reset II!!

The bottom division of the English Football League - here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Snowflake Royal]

IN! For the Great Reset II!!

The bottom division of the English Football League - here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You've convinced me. We should definitely carry on exactly as we are, cancel the sale. Keep Selles til the end of the season, then appoint another flash non-entity coach.

It's definitely the way to return to the big time, and not at all the way to see the club just liquidated.

[leon]

IN! For the Great Reset II!!

The bottom division of the English Football League - here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You've convinced me. We should definitely carry on exactly as we are, cancel the sale. Keep Selles til the end of the season, then appoint another flash non-entity coach.

It's definitely the way to return to the big time, and not at all the way to see the club just liquidated.

NO! L2 bring it ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[leon]

IN! For the Great Reset II!!

The bottom division of the English Football League - here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You've convinced me. We should definitely carry on exactly as we are, cancel the sale. Keep Selles til the end of the season, then appoint another flash non-entity coach.

It's definitely the way to return to the big time, and not at all the way to see the club just liquidated.

NO! L2 bring it ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And anyone who disagrees is a BED WETTER!!!!!!!

[Stranded]

I think IR eluded to this on the Arsenal thread. Our youngsters with a sprinkling of experience look like world beaters playing other teams U21s because they’ve had some league experience. However, that scenario is reversed when we play experienced League One teams.

I believe another manager with plenty of lower league experience should be able to get us winning enough games to survive this season, but I expect any change will be made too late.

I do think that this group of players with another year of league experience have the potential to become very good. That was obviously the aim of Bowen and co when they assembled the squad. I just hope we can get rid of Selles sooner rather than later.

Question is, if ownership and management change happens too late, could the new regime keep the core of the team together in L2? You'd expect an instant return if so, but I can't imagine the likes of Smith and Wing wanting to fall to that level. But let's say we actually look good from late Feb or so, it may be a heroic failure from the new regime that convinces them it's worth hanging about for a couple of years.

Obviously if we fall to L2 with the current regime in place it's an utter disaster.

Yes.

Barely any L1 teams could cough up enough to tempt us to sell our best young players to them.

Championship clubs could, but who realistically is going to pay hundreds of thousands or even millions for players who struggled in L1 with barely a season of games to go straight into their first team squad. I think a move to the Championship would probably see Abbey, Vickers, Ehibhatiomhan, Elliott, Bindon etc's career stall.

PL clubs could easily, but then these players will just go into their youth teams or go back out in loan to L1/Champ.

I don't see any great exodus. Two or three maybe. Probably Smith. Maybe Abbey or Savage.

Assuming the new owner could balance the finances with a sale or two.

A lot will depend on contract situations of course - we saw a couple of players leave in the summer for peanuts as they had clauses allowing them to do so upon relegation. Given our situation, it is possible that the likes of Wing, Smith, Knibbs have break clauses allowing them to walk if we drop, possibly the same with Savage/Elliott.

Outside of that, unless a contract is up, if we have a new owner, we should and probably will reject any bids unless they are too big to say no to unless it is clear the player won't sign an extension and we risk losing them for free.

[Stranded]

You've convinced me. We should definitely carry on exactly as we are, cancel the sale. Keep Selles til the end of the season, then appoint another flash non-entity coach.

It's definitely the way to return to the big time, and not at all the way to see the club just liquidated.

NO! L2 bring it ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And anyone who disagrees is a BED WETTER!!!!!!!

Screw you - I won't be happy until we get to reset as a National League side. I want to see us have a good go at winning the FA Trophy - see all the glory hunters snap up tickets for the final against Wealdstone.