Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

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by morganb » 28 Nov 2023 22:46

6 points from 2 games then you read on Twitter what Selles said to Tim Dellor and realise those points could be taken away again in the blink of an eye:

Dom Ballard out for the rest of the season. @ReadingFC manager confident team is on the rise going into December. Unsure whether they will be paid at the end of the month.


https://twitter.com/TimDellor/status/17 ... k5Cdg&s=19

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by Snowflake Royal » 28 Nov 2023 22:52

morganb 6 points from 2 games then you read on Twitter what Selles said to Tim Dellor and realise those points could be taken away again in the blink of an eye:

Dom Ballard out for the rest of the season. @ReadingFC manager confident team is on the rise going into December. Unsure whether they will be paid at the end of the month.


https://twitter.com/TimDellor/status/17 ... k5Cdg&s=19

Absolute master of motivation and morale that guy.

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by rabidbee » 28 Nov 2023 22:53

Yeah but did Selles raise it, or did he just say that’s not his department when Dellor asked him?

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by WestYorksRoyal » 29 Nov 2023 07:13

Would be classic Dai to burst the bubble again as things start improving.

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by Stranded » 29 Nov 2023 07:16

Isn't that just the sorry state of the club under Dai though. It's pretty much a copy and paste quote from each month.

Sadly no-one at the club knows if they will be paid until the money hits their account.


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by WestYorksRoyal » 29 Nov 2023 07:45

I'd like to hear the actual wording. As mentioned, it could well have been"Do you expect to get paid on Friday Ruben"? "I don't know, I'm just focusing on football etc.,"

We've only ever missed payday 3 times and only ever by a matter of days. That suggests they will be paid, and I actually think the EFL have taken a very hard line on this matter (unlike the FFP breaches which were completely justified). Wigan are a precedent, but in their case it was weeks or even months.

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by Brogue » 29 Nov 2023 07:58

Isn’t dai supposed to have had his meeting with the efl by now? Thought it was supposed to be end of November?

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by Stranded » 29 Nov 2023 08:14

Brogue Isn’t dai supposed to have had his meeting with the efl by now? Thought it was supposed to be end of November?


That was the deadline quoted by the EFL.

Anyway, pay day is tomorrow so we won't have long to find out if there is an issue or not - would be madness if sale discussions are so far advanced to risk any further deductions now.

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by Snowflake Royal » 29 Nov 2023 08:39

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Brogue Isn’t dai supposed to have had his meeting with the efl by now? Thought it was supposed to be end of November?


That was the deadline quoted by the EFL.

Anyway, pay day is tomorrow so we won't have long to find out if there is an issue or not - would be madness if sale discussions are so far advanced to risk any further deductions now.

Prick probably ignored them.


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by Sutekh » 29 Nov 2023 08:48

Brogue Isn’t dai supposed to have had his meeting with the efl by now? Thought it was supposed to be end of November?


It's this week from what I've seen in the media. Suspect the charges are wholly against him rather than the club so he'll be directly responsible for paying any fines etc. and the club won't be sanctioned further (I mean given the points deductions and the management that's already in place there's not much more the FL could do anyway).

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by Mid Sussex Royal » 29 Nov 2023 10:36

WestYorksRoyal I'd like to hear the actual wording. As mentioned, it could well have been"Do you expect to get paid on Friday Ruben"? "I don't know, I'm just focusing on football etc.,"

We've only ever missed payday 3 times and only ever by a matter of days. That suggests they will be paid, and I actually think the EFL have taken a very hard line on this matter (unlike the FFP breaches which were completely justified). Wigan are a precedent, but in their case it was weeks or even months.


There's no direct quote from Selles on this, and nothing from the other journos who tend to quote the after match press conference word for word.

I'd find it strange if the wages weren't paid on time tomorrow, given it appears the tax is up to date.

Think this is Dellor clickbait, he's prone to it.

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by blythspartan » 29 Nov 2023 16:14

Back on the embargo page.

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by WestYorksRoyal » 29 Nov 2023 16:20

Ugh. Dai ruins an otherwise good week. Payday tomorrow too. A chance for him to kill any momentum. Was worried Carlisle would do it but Dai our greatest opposition yet again.


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by blythspartan » 29 Nov 2023 16:32

WestYorksRoyal Ugh. Dai ruins an otherwise good week. Payday tomorrow too. A chance for him to kill any momentum. Was worried Carlisle would do it but Dai our greatest opposition yet again.


I can’t help thinking that this will mean some sort of points deduction, although there has been no precedent set for non payment of taxes.

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by WestYorksRoyal » 29 Nov 2023 16:39

If the takeover is progressing, I suspect a suspended points deduction. I think there is a sporting fairness point; Smith, Wing and Knibbs have contributed to our 2 wins in a big way and they were all signed on reasonable wages we're struggling to afford. I think Wycombe acknowledged they couldn't compete with what we offered Wing.

But there is no precedent for points deductions in this area, and it would be very harsh to come down heavily on a new owner who is willing to fund the club.

Suspended points deduction treads the line in my view.

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by Snowflake Royal » 29 Nov 2023 17:00

WestYorksRoyal If the takeover is progressing, I suspect a suspended points deduction. I think there is a sporting fairness point; Smith, Wing and Knibbs have contributed to our 2 wins in a big way and they were all signed on reasonable wages we're struggling to afford. I think Wycombe acknowledged they couldn't compete with what we offered Wing.

But there is no precedent for points deductions in this area, and it would be very harsh to come down heavily on a new owner who is willing to fund the club.

Suspended points deduction treads the line in my view.

Yeah, I can climb on board that. Sets a precedent for others, shows reasonable firmness and flexibility.

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by Hound » 29 Nov 2023 18:06

Ffs Dai. Just pi$$ off

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by blythspartan » 29 Nov 2023 18:27

I wonder if there’ll be an announcement about exclusivity soon. I do wonder if it’s all just bollox and Dai is playing games.

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by Brogue » 29 Nov 2023 18:31

Just checked in with my contact. Players and staff will be payed in full.

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by blythspartan » 29 Nov 2023 19:27

Brogue Just checked in with my contact. Players and staff will be payed in full.


That’s good news
Is exclusivity still close?

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