Selles not out

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Should Selles be shown the door now before the inevitable mid season sacking

Yes (and appoint Ian)
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No (it's a wonderful appointment and he'll get the club to scale heights never before seen at Reading)
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He won't be appointed in the first place
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Re: Selles out

by The Cap » 03 Dec 2023 19:54

What on earth was that all about today? Quite simply, Selles has got to jump on the next train to wherever. And I know that my mate, Micky L, will ensure that it's running. Seriously, eight changes from the the Carlisle game? FFS

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Re: Selles out

by AthleticoSpizz » 03 Dec 2023 20:21

Thought he got it spot-on for a tournament that we will not make any significant impact in.

We lost, boo-hoo, afew run-outs for our nervous squad against cloggers and ex pro’s, the substitutions were spot-on.

Some of our players looked like they were actually enjoying playing for a change.

Just my opinion obvs, being there and all that.

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 03 Dec 2023 20:26

AthleticoSpizz Thought he got it spot-on for a tournament that we will not make any significant impact in.

We lost, boo-hoo, afew run-outs for our nervous squad against cloggers and ex pro’s, the substitutions were spot-on.

Some of our players looked like they were actually enjoying playing for a change.

Just my opinion obvs, being there and all that.

A competition we could have realistically earned an additional £million or so from though. And it's not like we were bossed. Better management and selection would likely have seen a win.

We lose on fine margins. The sort of fine margins good selection and coaching eradicates.

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Re: Selles out

by AthleticoSpizz » 03 Dec 2023 20:32

Well quite

Ian for manager etc etc

I don”t think even “Ian” would want to come here right now tho’

Nor anybody better than the incumbant sh1t show that we have right now, give the guy credit where due…when it happens (November was ok)

Looks like the ITV coverage were on our side

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Re: Selles out

by Hound » 03 Dec 2023 20:35

Snowflake Royal
AthleticoSpizz Thought he got it spot-on for a tournament that we will not make any significant impact in.

We lost, boo-hoo, afew run-outs for our nervous squad against cloggers and ex pro’s, the substitutions were spot-on.

Some of our players looked like they were actually enjoying playing for a change.

Just my opinion obvs, being there and all that.

A competition we could have realistically earned an additional £million or so from though. And it's not like we were bossed. Better management and selection would likely have seen a win.

We lose on fine margins. The sort of fine margins good selection and coaching eradicates.


Yeah agreed - next round could have been Man City away at the time he picked the team

No need. He must have known what they were about - the likes of Savage and Eliott and even Kelvin likely to getting eaten up by lumps like that

You can’t give any credit for bringing on Smith and Wing. Even my dog knows that would improve the side. Rushesha in Mbengue takes away even more physicality in our defence

They’ve not played loads of games recently due to internationals so just play the Carlisle team - maybe swap in a few (GK, Holmes/Dean, Mbengue, maybe Kelv) try to get some bloody consistency


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Re: Selles out

by AthleticoSpizz » 03 Dec 2023 20:38

The “next round” lol…it could’ve been Walsall, Port Vale or anyone….as it would’ve been, Barnet or Newport….

Nice

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Re: Selles out

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 03 Dec 2023 20:39

It's a (very) small sample admittedly, but we made minimal changes (just 1 in the first XI I believe which was enforced) between Wycombe and Carlisle and picked up back-to-back wins.

For me, Selles' biggest problem has been changing the team too much. I can understand forward areas to an extent, but we shouldn't really be changing our back 4 that much and yet we still seem to be experimenting in that area as well.

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Re: Selles out

by AthleticoSpizz » 03 Dec 2023 20:48

YorkshireRoyal99 It's a (very) small sample admittedly, but we made minimal changes (just 1 in the first XI I believe which was enforced) between Wycombe and Carlisle and picked up back-to-back wins.

For me, Selles' biggest problem has been changing the team too much. I can understand forward areas to an extent, but we shouldn't really be changing our back 4 that much and yet we still seem to be experimenting in that area as well.
Holmes did well, the ‘useless’ Mola got forward and

It didn’t pay-off, but it was a bit of a free-hit today, and something worth looking at. Even Steve Coppell gave his first teamers a bit of a rest in cup games.

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Re: Selles out

by St Pauli » 03 Dec 2023 21:52

AthleticoSpizz The “next round” lol…it could’ve been Walsall, Port Vale or anyone….as it would’ve been, Barnet or Newport….

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Would have loved Newport tbf.

Main reason I’m so po we didn’t progress.


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Re: Selles out

by Royal_jimmy » 03 Dec 2023 22:07

AthleticoSpizz
YorkshireRoyal99 It's a (very) small sample admittedly, but we made minimal changes (just 1 in the first XI I believe which was enforced) between Wycombe and Carlisle and picked up back-to-back wins.

For me, Selles' biggest problem has been changing the team too much. I can understand forward areas to an extent, but we shouldn't really be changing our back 4 that much and yet we still seem to be experimenting in that area as well.
Holmes did well, the ‘useless’ Mola got forward and

It didn’t pay-off, but it was a bit of a free-hit today, and something worth looking at. Even Steve Coppell gave his first teamers a bit of a rest in cup games.


Holmes did well costing us the game with his heroic defending for their winner

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Re: Selles out

by Royal_jimmy » 03 Dec 2023 22:08

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AthleticoSpizz The “next round” lol…it could’ve been Walsall, Port Vale or anyone….as it would’ve been, Barnet or Newport….

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Would have loved Newport tbf.

Main reason I’m so po we didn’t progress.


Never mind we'll be going there in the league next season

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 03 Dec 2023 23:42

AthleticoSpizz The “next round” lol…it could’ve been Walsall, Port Vale or anyone….as it would’ve been, Barnet or Newport….

Nice

Yeah, so that's £67k, plus gate receipts, plus good chance of £100k prize money and then more gate receipts.

The team was just starting to rebuild some confidence after a dreadful period. Well guess what, a poor performance against non-league opposition and a last minute defeat, on TV, after the high of a late equaliser just undid all that.

Woo, USelles got two of the most obvious subs ever right. Of course, his other three were shit. As was half his original team selection.

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Re: Selles out

by rabidbee » 04 Dec 2023 00:01

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AthleticoSpizz The “next round” lol…it could’ve been Walsall, Port Vale or anyone….as it would’ve been, Barnet or Newport….

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Would have loved Newport tbf.

Main reason I’m so po we didn’t progress.

Obvious +1.


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Re: Selles out

by Hound » 04 Dec 2023 09:10

Think Eastleigh was the final straw for me with Selles. Haven’t been able to go or watch recent games and was interested to see if talk of the new formation etc was making us any better

We just look exactly the same. No real plan, the high pressing looks good when it comes off a couple of times a match, otherwise leaves us out of shape. Knibbs is the best at it, but some of the others can’t do it very well at all

Don’t have obvious ideas of how to create with possession. Some vague tactics towards getting it to the FBs for crossing, but then Yiadom and Dorsett (first choice FBs) aren’t good at crossing

Midfield is still a big hole half the time, though Craig helps that a bit

Wing and Smith are excellent. Azeez is a very decent player at this level who is just starting to get that final ball right. Individual moments from these three along with Knibbs just being busy seem our only route to goal. Look crap form set pieces and the left.

Defence shaky and still exposed. Still beaten physically too often. Holmes, Dean and Mola did nothing to suggest they should be in front of Abbey and Binden. Holmes passing was poor - often backwards and horrible floaty balls towards a pressing forward. Dean actually brought it out of defence quite well

And team selection was poor. Eastleigh manager clearly delighted with it. He knew full well who are dangermen were and they were on the bench

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Re: Selles out

by WestYorksRoyal » 04 Dec 2023 09:19

Not sure if this is the thread to post it, but reports that Wilder is returning to Sheffield United. Who knows how close we were, but clearly a sinking ship in the PL is better than a sinking ship in L1.

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Re: Selles out

by Sutekh » 04 Dec 2023 10:00

WestYorksRoyal Not sure if this is the thread to post it, but reports that Wilder is returning to Sheffield United. Who knows how close we were, but clearly a sinking ship in the PL is better than a sinking ship in L1.


Probably would been able to get Wilder if it hadn't been for the useless gimp of an owner. Surprised he's not already got a club but not surprised if he returns to SheffU.

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Re: Selles out

by tidus_mi2 » 04 Dec 2023 10:17

Last 2 league wins has put me more on the fence, yes the Eastleigh result was frustrating and embarrassing when we really had a favourable path to round 4, especially with the financial rewards that would have brought in our situation. I feel like I'm more willing to give Selles the benefit of the doubt because he does seem like a nice guy who is trying to implement an entertaining and effective style of play (when it works).

So hopefully we can continue to have a bit of a league run.

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Re: Selles out

by Royalwaster » 04 Dec 2023 10:23

Hound Think Eastleigh was the final straw for me with Selles. Haven’t been able to go or watch recent games and was interested to see if talk of the new formation etc was making us any better

We just look exactly the same. No real plan, the high pressing looks good when it comes off a couple of times a match, otherwise leaves us out of shape. Knibbs is the best at it, but some of the others can’t do it very well at all

Don’t have obvious ideas of how to create with possession. Some vague tactics towards getting it to the FBs for crossing, but then Yiadom and Dorsett (first choice FBs) aren’t good at crossing

Midfield is still a big hole half the time, though Craig helps that a bit

Wing and Smith are excellent. Azeez is a very decent player at this level who is just starting to get that final ball right. Individual moments from these three along with Knibbs just being busy seem our only route to goal. Look crap form set pieces and the left.

Defence shaky and still exposed. Still beaten physically too often. Holmes, Dean and Mola did nothing to suggest they should be in front of Abbey and Binden. Holmes passing was poor - often backwards and horrible floaty balls towards a pressing forward. Dean actually brought it out of defence quite well

And team selection was poor. Eastleigh manager clearly delighted with it. He knew full well who are dangermen were and they were on the bench


Yes not reading too much into it due to team selection - think Wing and Craig have added a lot of strength in the middle and Azeez is starting to find form. Also missing Abbey at the back as he's been one of our most consistent performers and Smith up front from the start. Terrible though how disorganised we are from corners ...

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Re: Selles out

by URZZZZ » 04 Dec 2023 11:14

Snowflake Royal
AthleticoSpizz The “next round” lol…it could’ve been Walsall, Port Vale or anyone….as it would’ve been, Barnet or Newport….

Nice

Yeah, so that's £67k, plus gate receipts, plus good chance of £100k prize money and then more gate receipts.

The team was just starting to rebuild some confidence after a dreadful period. Well guess what, a poor performance against non-league opposition and a last minute defeat, on TV, after the high of a late equaliser just undid all that.

Woo, USelles got two of the most obvious subs ever right. Of course, his other three were shit. As was half his original team selection.


Think there’s too much talk of the team selection going on. Ones I’d question is Mola at CB (although he was one of the better players IMO - we do love a scapegoat here) and Elliott out left (that one made little sense)

I don’t think he’s a very good manager but the performance yesterday reflects more on the players’ than the manager. The first goal was so poor, Elliott cheaply giving the ball away and the two fullbacks marking space rather than their respective players. You can’t always legislate for that. Likewise our two CB’s going awol in the 90th minute

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Re: Selles out

by Hound » 04 Dec 2023 11:38

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AthleticoSpizz The “next round” lol…it could’ve been Walsall, Port Vale or anyone….as it would’ve been, Barnet or Newport….

Nice

Yeah, so that's £67k, plus gate receipts, plus good chance of £100k prize money and then more gate receipts.

The team was just starting to rebuild some confidence after a dreadful period. Well guess what, a poor performance against non-league opposition and a last minute defeat, on TV, after the high of a late equaliser just undid all that.

Woo, USelles got two of the most obvious subs ever right. Of course, his other three were shit. As was half his original team selection.


Think there’s too much talk of the team selection going on. Ones I’d question is Mola at CB (although he was one of the better players IMO - we do love a scapegoat here) and Elliott out left (that one made little sense)

I don’t think he’s a very good manager but the performance yesterday reflects more on the players’ than the manager. The first goal was so poor, Elliott cheaply giving the ball away and the two fullbacks marking space rather than their respective players. You can’t always legislate for that. Likewise our two CB’s going awol in the 90th minute


Of course easy to look back in hindsight but having Savage and Eliot in the team together was the wrong choice. Both lightweight and bullied. If we want to win the game Wing and Smith have to start, they are our 2 best all round players

Very risky playing Mola CB with Carson LB. Lack of pace at CB and even less pace after HT when Dean comes on. Prob should have had either Mbengue or Abbey alongside Dean/Holmes and Dorsett (no chance of him being bullied) at LB. Not like they’ve had tons of games recently and it’d help Dorsett learn the position to keep playing there. NGW otherwise as a more physical option

I’d have prob played Hutch as well tbh.

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