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[BRO_BOT]

That's the treble off then...4fs!!!

[Silver Fox]

Will United fans be pleased that their ineptitude might cost the PL its fifth CL place?

[NathStPaul]

Don't we get a 5th Champions League place regardless due to the new Champions League format next season?

[Winston Biscuit]

Don't we get a 5th Champions League place regardless due to the new Champions League format next season?

no. the 2 highest performing leagues in European Competitions will be given an extra CL spot for next season. 4 of the last 5 seasons that would have been the PL.

Current coefficient standings for this:

1. Germany, 12.93
2. Italy, 12.86
3. England, 11.88
4. Spain, 11.81
5. Belgium, 9.8
6. France, 9.42
7. Czechia, 9.25
8. Turkey, 9.00
9. Denmark, 8.50
10. Netherlands, 8.20

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/39054486/the-race-five-places-next-seasons-champions-league

[NathStPaul]

The new format is complete oxf*rd btw.

[Sanguine]

The new format is complete oxf*rd btw.

It just makes it harder for the lesser clubs to progress. One or two shock results isn't going to get them a surprise second place in their group any more.

That being said I'd quite like it if this new expanded 'league stage' then saw the top 8 progress directly to the QFs. Would be a real fight between the top seeds to secure one of those spots, and some big clubs would lose out, probably by a point or on goal difference. But money talks, so you only fail to progress at least to the play-offs if you finish lower than 24th (which of course makes it harder still for the better sides to go out).

[Sutekh]

Don't we get a 5th Champions League place regardless due to the new Champions League format next season?

no. the 2 highest performing leagues in European Competitions will be given an extra CL spot for next season. 4 of the last 5 seasons that would have been the PL.

Current coefficient standings for this:

1. Germany, 12.93
2. Italy, 12.86
3. England, 11.88
4. Spain, 11.81
5. Belgium, 9.8
6. France, 9.42
7. Czechia, 9.25
8. Turkey, 9.00
9. Denmark, 8.50
10. Netherlands, 8.20

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/39054486/the-race-five-places-next-seasons-champions-league

Pretty guaranteed isn't it, can't see Belgian or French clubs making up the difference, even with an underperforming ManU. And if Liverpool and West Ham rip up the other competitions does that help towards it?

[Sanguine]

We aren't helped by Real Sociedad having an excellent CL group stage, and likewise Lazio are into R16. Coupled with United's exit and Arsenal and City really need to go deep into the tournament. In Europa League, all of the English, German, Italian and Spanish sides have made it through the groups with a game to spare. Will come down to knock-out stage results, but for now looks unlikely the PL will get that fifth spot.

Not sure on the source of ESPN's numbers, but the UEFA website currently has us fourth in 23/24.

https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociatio ... /#/yr/2024

[Sanguine]

Fwiw, performance of French and Dutch teams this season is pretty critical for 25/26 season. Netherlands have edged ahead of France into 5th spot in the coefficient ranking, which is the difference between 3 and 4 teams into the competition.

'Race for 15th' one to watch too, as that is the jump from 1 spot to 2.

[Winston Biscuit]

Where does this season rank in the post Fergie seasons?

[Winston Biscuit]

Last Man Utd forward to score a goal in the Premier League is Jadon Sancho?!

[BRO_BOT]

Last Man Utd forward to score a goal in the Premier League is Jadon Sancho?!

The last Reading forward to score a goal in the Premier League is Le Fondre?!

[BRO_BOT]

(iirc)

Geezer from Notts Forest got the other and I have a feeling Nolan scored all of theirs

[Brogue]

potter being lined up to replace ten hag

[NathStPaul]

potter being lined up to replace ten hag

Ooof has it really come to this? They can surely do a bit better? Probably wouldn't be able to get him but they should be all over Unai Emery IMO.

[BRO_BOT]

potter being lined up to replace ten hag

Ooof has it really come to this? They can surely do a bit better? Probably wouldn't be able to get him but they should be all over Unai Emery IMO.

It's horseshit, unlikely that ETH is going anywhere! Unless he goes on an amazingly bad run in the next month

[Brogue]

potter being lined up to replace ten hag

Ooof has it really come to this? They can surely do a bit better? Probably wouldn't be able to get him but they should be all over Unai Emery IMO.

It's horseshit, unlikely that ETH is going anywhere! Unless he goes on an amazingly bad run in the next month

Reports are that Radcliffe will complete his deal next week and will immediately take over all football operations. He doesn’t fancy ETH. And has already had conversations with potter. Obviously all paper talk I guess we will find out soon enough. Liverpool up at the weekend…

[Snowflake Royal]

Last Man Utd forward to score a goal in the Premier League is Jadon Sancho?!

The last Reading forward to score a goal in the Premier League is Le Fondre?!

How many PL games have Utd had since Sancho's goal?

[BRO_BOT]

Ooof has it really come to this? They can surely do a bit better? Probably wouldn't be able to get him but they should be all over Unai Emery IMO.

It's horseshit, unlikely that ETH is going anywhere! Unless he goes on an amazingly bad run in the next month

Reports are that Radcliffe will complete his deal next week and will immediately take over all football operations. He doesn’t fancy ETH. And has already had conversations with potter. Obviously all paper talk I guess we will find out soon enough. Liverpool up at the weekend…

It's from Custis, he just talks shite...Qatar had defo won according to him etc

ETH next Dortmund coach according to Jan Åge Fjørtoft...same guy who said LFC defo had Bellingham

[BRO_BOT]

we've been utter dogshit the entire first half!