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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Snowflake Royal » 14 Dec 2023 11:48

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Brogue I think you’ll find I announced the exclusivity before this chump. Maybe we have the same sauce :?

The exclusivity that never materialised? Go you.


Indeed but once again you miss the point, if you don’t believe me then why would you believe him, who also announced exclusivity and got it wrong…

I don't.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Brogue » 14 Dec 2023 11:49

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Snowflake Royal The exclusivity that never materialised? Go you.


Indeed but once again you miss the point, if you don’t believe me then why would you believe him, who also announced exclusivity and got it wrong…

I don't.


Sorry just edited I didn’t mean ‘you’ per se

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 14 Dec 2023 12:34

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Indeed but once again you miss the point, if you don’t believe me then why would you believe him, who also announced exclusivity and got it wrong…

I don't.


Sorry just edited I didn’t mean ‘you’ per se


It’s Ian not Percy

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Royalwaster » 14 Dec 2023 12:48

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Mr Angry Reading that tweet it sounded like someone merely keen to stir up the protests with no actually proof to justify his/her claims that Genevre have walked away.

If they have, there would have been a public annoucement to that fact; if I was their PR I would put out a statement along these lines:

"In the light of detailed discussions with the owner and as a result of the due diligence process, Genevre have decided to no longer pursue the purchase of Reading FC. Genevre wish the club and all its supporters all the best for the future and for the sale of the club to be settled as soon as possible".

And what if the owner pi$$ed them about, which i understand did happen, they might just walk away and say nothing !


To be honest, if that were really the case then we'd have missed a bullet as it would mark out Genevre as one of the most unprofessional outfits in the world ... ! Even Will Storey who is a clown and a shyster put out a statement ...

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by rabidbee » 14 Dec 2023 12:56

As his bid was only about garnering free publicity, that's hardly surprising.


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Snowflake Royal » 14 Dec 2023 13:34

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Mr Angry Reading that tweet it sounded like someone merely keen to stir up the protests with no actually proof to justify his/her claims that Genevre have walked away.

If they have, there would have been a public annoucement to that fact; if I was their PR I would put out a statement along these lines:

"In the light of detailed discussions with the owner and as a result of the due diligence process, Genevre have decided to no longer pursue the purchase of Reading FC. Genevre wish the club and all its supporters all the best for the future and for the sale of the club to be settled as soon as possible".

And what if the owner pi$$ed them about, which i understand did happen, they might just walk away and say nothing !


To be honest, if that were really the case then we'd have missed a bullet as it would mark out Genevre as one of the most unprofessional outfits in the world ... ! Even Will Storey who is a clown and a shyster put out a statement ...

For attention.

No one else has put out a public statement of interest. Why would the make a public statement of withdrawal.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 14 Dec 2023 14:40

The club itself made a statement to confirm what was happening therefore I would expect the club to do the same with any significant changes to their statement but this is Reading and they just can't be arsed to speak to the hoi poloi. MB won't even speak to Tim despite numerous requests for a chat (in essence MB just responds with "what am I meant to say about it all"). God I hate club's that think communication vacuums are a good idea.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Hound » 14 Dec 2023 14:45

More reports of deal off on twitter

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 14 Dec 2023 14:49

What does it mean if true? It's taken months to reach this point. Presumably it was the best bid available to Dai, and nobody starting negotiations from scratch now would offer better.


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Stranded » 14 Dec 2023 14:51

WestYorksRoyal What does it mean if true? It's taken months to reach this point. Presumably it was the best bid available to Dai, and nobody starting negotiations from scratch now would offer better.


Allegedly the only bid on the table...

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by genome » 14 Dec 2023 14:51

Administration probably

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by gazzer, loyal royal » 14 Dec 2023 14:55

Been loosely told a few weeks a go that Dai Yongges sister stormed out of a meeting and is no longer part of the process, which would make sense that the goalposts have since moved.

No idea who she was frustrated at, Dai or the bidders but it’s all gone to pot since she left the negotiations.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 14 Dec 2023 15:01

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But it's not logical. Who in their right mind would reject a bid, put us into administration, lose control of the sale process and in all likelihood receive a lot less?

If none of the bids are up to his asking price, the only logical response would be to fund the club again, get it on firmer footing and then be in a stronger negotiating position. But we know that won't happen.

The worry is that he's just given up on a sale, and we continue the current way for years. Late HMRC payments, payday uncertainty, players leaving on frees. Who knows where that would end.


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by blythspartan » 14 Dec 2023 15:12

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But it's not logical. Who in their right mind would reject a bid, put us into administration, lose control of the sale process and in all likelihood receive a lot less?

If none of the bids are up to his asking price, the only logical response would be to fund the club again, get it on firmer footing and then be in a stronger negotiating position. But we know that won't happen.

The worry is that he's just given up on a sale, and we continue the current way for years. Late HMRC payments, payday uncertainty, players leaving on frees. Who knows where that would end.


Sadly, I think it’ll end in liquidation.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Stranded » 14 Dec 2023 15:14

If it is true, not sure how anyone gets enticed to the table esp if it is clear that the negotiating partner is likely to shift the goalposts as you move close to a deal.

Feels like we may be a tiny bit more fcuked. But naturally not all clear this is true.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by genome » 14 Dec 2023 15:16

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But it's not logical. Who in their right mind would reject a bid, put us into administration, lose control of the sale process and in all likelihood receive a lot less?

If none of the bids are up to his asking price, the only logical response would be to fund the club again, get it on firmer footing and then be in a stronger negotiating position. But we know that won't happen.

The worry is that he's just given up on a sale, and we continue the current way for years. Late HMRC payments, payday uncertainty, players leaving on frees. Who knows where that would end.


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 14 Dec 2023 15:16

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genome Administration probably

But it's not logical. Who in their right mind would reject a bid, put us into administration, lose control of the sale process and in all likelihood receive a lot less?

If none of the bids are up to his asking price, the only logical response would be to fund the club again, get it on firmer footing and then be in a stronger negotiating position. But we know that won't happen.

The worry is that he's just given up on a sale, and we continue the current way for years. Late HMRC payments, payday uncertainty, players leaving on frees. Who knows where that would end.


Sadly, I think it’ll end in liquidation.

Again, why? Let's reject £30m and then let the club be liquidated so I get fcuk all.

The most likely explanation is he likes the gaming mindset, and he'd rather liquidation rather than "lose" in negotiations. But even then, he and many others lose out big time in a liquidation scenario.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by blythspartan » 14 Dec 2023 15:29

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WestYorksRoyal But it's not logical. Who in their right mind would reject a bid, put us into administration, lose control of the sale process and in all likelihood receive a lot less?

If none of the bids are up to his asking price, the only logical response would be to fund the club again, get it on firmer footing and then be in a stronger negotiating position. But we know that won't happen.

The worry is that he's just given up on a sale, and we continue the current way for years. Late HMRC payments, payday uncertainty, players leaving on frees. Who knows where that would end.


Sadly, I think it’ll end in liquidation.

Again, why? Let's reject £30m and then let the club be liquidated so I get fcuk all.

The most likely explanation is he likes the gaming mindset, and he'd rather liquidation rather than "lose" in negotiations. But even then, he and many others lose out big time in a liquidation scenario.


He’s done it to two other clubs and I could see him just writing off his losses. As much as that doesn’t make sense he’s not a rational man. I’d also imagine the demonstrations have hurt his pride/feelings and I could see him doing it out of pure spite. Obviously, I hope I am wrong, but I don’t see a happy ending.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by El Diablo » 14 Dec 2023 16:13

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Sadly, I think it’ll end in liquidation.

Again, why? Let's reject £30m and then let the club be liquidated so I get fcuk all.

The most likely explanation is he likes the gaming mindset, and he'd rather liquidation rather than "lose" in negotiations. But even then, he and many others lose out big time in a liquidation scenario.


He’s done it to two other clubs and I could see him just writing off his losses. As much as that doesn’t make sense he’s not a rational man. I’d also imagine the demonstrations have hurt his pride/feelings and I could see him doing it out of pure spite. Obviously, I hope I am wrong, but I don’t see a happy ending.


I work with clients who are extremely rich, and live in a world where rational thinking as we'd see it is totally devoid. For Dai, its not about the money. Its about the deal. If he doesn't get the deal he wants, he'll just shrug his shoulders and move on. £30m to him is nothing. It has no impact on his life or his lifestyle.
And we all know that he doesn't give a shit about the club , the town or its fans.
I fear the worse.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by rabidbee » 14 Dec 2023 16:26

The reality is that none of us really know anything concrete, and the vacuum is being filled by rumour, misinformation and conjecture.

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