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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 15 Dec 2023 09:10

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I'm not going in to the whys and wherefores but the reasoning is there on Twitter if you chose to read it - I'm going to leave it over there until something more concrete comes out.

Great so we have to go over to that cesspit if we want to have a clue what he's supposed to have done wrong?


basically it's the Samuelson link, it appears he is the one who has brought him in to broker a deal and invited him for dinner.


Equally NH knows what he is doing so if he has asked CS to help out then maybe things won't be too much to worry about in that sense.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 15 Dec 2023 09:14

But people don't know the context. If a deal was close and he brought Samuelson in to add another party and throw everything off, fine hatred is justified.

If the Genevra deal was about to fall through and there are serious concerns about the club surviving the season, by all means do a deal with the devil if it means we still have a club. Maybe the next shit owner is more rational and capable of selling the club for a decent offer when they've had enough.

We've got a unique set of circumstances at the moment. Kieran Maguire rated our chances of liquidation at near zero as we have too much going for us, and the interest and bids suggest he is right. But he didn't bet on a clown of an owner who can't even sell when a good offer stares him in the face. Dai is the existential threat. Get him gone at all costs.
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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Stranded » 15 Dec 2023 09:15

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Snowflake Royal Great so we have to go over to that cesspit if we want to have a clue what he's supposed to have done wrong?


basically it's the Samuelson link, it appears he is the one who has brought him in to broker a deal and invited him for dinner.


Equally NH knows what he is doing so if he has asked CS to help out then maybe things won't be too much to worry about in that sense.


You would hope, or things are that desperate that he has called on CS to find someone lurking where NH doesn't like to look.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Snowflake Royal » 15 Dec 2023 11:26

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Snowflake Royal Great so we have to go over to that cesspit if we want to have a clue what he's supposed to have done wrong?


basically it's the Samuelson link, it appears he is the one who has brought him in to broker a deal and invited him for dinner.


Equally NH knows what he is doing so if he has asked CS to help out then maybe things won't be too much to worry about in that sense.

People seem to forget that Madejski left Howe in charge for the Burns debacle and that he was around for the similarly awful tenure of Zingarevich. And previously worked with that spawn of Satan Samuelson with that.

He's far from spotless.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 15 Dec 2023 11:28

Teddy Howe is now at Weymouth.


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Brogue » 15 Dec 2023 11:37

Sutekh Teddy Howe is now at Weymouth.

:lol: remember when the likes of SCIAG lost his shit when he left

edit - found it - Bwahahahahahh SCIAG :| viewtopic.php?f=1&t=186617&p=4892499&hilit=Teddy+Howe#p4892499

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 15 Dec 2023 12:03

Sutekh Teddy Howe is now at Weymouth.

One for when we have to start the phoenix club?

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Mid Sussex Royal » 16 Dec 2023 10:16

Dellor posted on twitter yesterday eve he was giving an update on club finances on BBC Berks between 6-7pm, did anyone listen?

Also mentioned he'd be updating on Ejaria latest...

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 16 Dec 2023 11:29

Mid Sussex Royal Dellor posted on twitter yesterday eve he was giving an update on club finances on BBC Berks between 6-7pm, did anyone listen?

Also mentioned he'd be updating on Ejaria latest...


There was no news on anything. He had spoken to Monica who confirmed the lack of cash now meant no more hotel stays possible (unless anyone owning hotels near away grounds would be willing to let out rooms to the club for free). He put the "paying up Ejaria's contract" rumour to Ruben and was told that he (the manager) couldn't comment. And then he asked if there were any updates on the ownership saga and was told not as far as the manager knew.

Tim really needs to grab MB and see if he can get anything "off the record" that he could sort of later allude to.


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by tmesis » 16 Dec 2023 13:05

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basically it's the Samuelson link, it appears he is the one who has brought him in to broker a deal and invited him for dinner.


Equally NH knows what he is doing so if he has asked CS to help out then maybe things won't be too much to worry about in that sense.

People seem to forget that Madejski left Howe in charge for the Burns debacle and that he was around for the similarly awful tenure of Zingarevich. And previously worked with that spawn of Satan Samuelson with that.

He's far from spotless.

Burns was an odd one, as he always came across really well. His lack of experience at Reading's level was disastrous though, overestimating the price of signings, and underestimating the ability level needed. The local radio commentator at the time (was it Dellor back then?) said once that you could talk to him, and he could tell you in detail where the team's faults were. He just didn't know how to fix them. I'd say Burns was the most popular terrible manager we had.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Snowflake Royal » 16 Dec 2023 13:14

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Equally NH knows what he is doing so if he has asked CS to help out then maybe things won't be too much to worry about in that sense.

People seem to forget that Madejski left Howe in charge for the Burns debacle and that he was around for the similarly awful tenure of Zingarevich. And previously worked with that spawn of Satan Samuelson with that.

He's far from spotless.

Burns was an odd one, as he always came across really well. His lack of experience at Reading's level was disastrous though, overestimating the price of signings, and underestimating the ability level needed. The local radio commentator at the time (was it Dellor back then?) said once that you could talk to him, and he could tell you in detail where the team's faults were. He just didn't know how to fix them. I'd say Burns was the most popular terrible manager we had.

Definitely pre-Dellor. Might have even been pre-Joel Hufford, who unlike Dellor was brilliant.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Mid Sussex Royal » 16 Dec 2023 13:26

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Snowflake Royal People seem to forget that Madejski left Howe in charge for the Burns debacle and that he was around for the similarly awful tenure of Zingarevich. And previously worked with that spawn of Satan Samuelson with that.

He's far from spotless.

Burns was an odd one, as he always came across really well. His lack of experience at Reading's level was disastrous though, overestimating the price of signings, and underestimating the ability level needed. The local radio commentator at the time (was it Dellor back then?) said once that you could talk to him, and he could tell you in detail where the team's faults were. He just didn't know how to fix them. I'd say Burns was the most popular terrible manager we had.

Definitely pre-Dellor. Might have even been pre-Joel Hufford, who unlike Dellor was brilliant.


Maurice O'Brien back then I think

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by leon » 16 Dec 2023 13:34

Burns was probably the biggest disappointments I can recall. On paper he had it all but just couldn’t adapt. Culminating in buying that absolute cart horse Keith Scott from Wycombe.


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 16 Dec 2023 15:07

leon Burns was probably the biggest disappointments I can recall. On paper he had it all but just couldn’t adapt. Culminating in buying that absolute cart horse Keith Scott from Wycombe.


That was his problem, no respect for the level of football - think he thought it’d be a cakewalk and able to play your way out against “lesser” teams

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by leon » 16 Dec 2023 15:13

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leon Burns was probably the biggest disappointments I can recall. On paper he had it all but just couldn’t adapt. Culminating in buying that absolute cart horse Keith Scott from Wycombe.


That was his problem, no respect for the level of football - think he thought it’d be a cakewalk and able to play your way out against “lesser” teams


Sounds familiar

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Norfolk Royal » 16 Dec 2023 15:40

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Snowflake Royal People seem to forget that Madejski left Howe in charge for the Burns debacle and that he was around for the similarly awful tenure of Zingarevich. And previously worked with that spawn of Satan Samuelson with that.

He's far from spotless.

Burns was an odd one, as he always came across really well. His lack of experience at Reading's level was disastrous though, overestimating the price of signings, and underestimating the ability level needed. The local radio commentator at the time (was it Dellor back then?) said once that you could talk to him, and he could tell you in detail where the team's faults were. He just didn't know how to fix them. I'd say Burns was the most popular terrible manager we had.

Definitely pre-Dellor. Might have even been pre-Joel Hufford, who unlike Dellor was brilliant.


Might have been pre Jimmy Young.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 16 Dec 2023 16:27

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tmesis Burns was an odd one, as he always came across really well. His lack of experience at Reading's level was disastrous though, overestimating the price of signings, and underestimating the ability level needed. The local radio commentator at the time (was it Dellor back then?) said once that you could talk to him, and he could tell you in detail where the team's faults were. He just didn't know how to fix them. I'd say Burns was the most popular terrible manager we had.

Definitely pre-Dellor. Might have even been pre-Joel Hufford, who unlike Dellor was brilliant.


Might have been pre Jimmy Young.


It was the Huff for Burns' tenure. Occasionally Jonathan Southall did commentary when it was Thames Valley FM rather than Berks and Oxford

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Orion1871 » 16 Dec 2023 17:53

Dellor says rumours Dai moved the goal posts at the last minute are true and takeover deal is off.
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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by tmesis » 16 Dec 2023 18:43

Orion1871 Dellor says reports Dai moved the goal posts at the last minute are true and takeover deal is off.

I wonder what the scope of goalpost moving exists in a takeover.

Overall price?
Share %?
Ownership of stadium/training ground (which would be a rather massive 'move' of the posts)

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 16 Dec 2023 19:06

What's his gamelan now then? Does he have one? Hope things improve enough on the pitch that someone else will pay more? Will one of the previously interested parties come back? Or have they been put off by the process so far?

Feels hard to view this as anything but awful news. I was skeptical on Genevra, but anyone is better than Dai.

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