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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by SouthDownsRoyal » 30 Dec 2023 17:39

Pepe the Horseman I was told one of the reasons for Dai fcuking up the deal, was that he wanted a percentage of future player sales, which is obviously ridiculous.

Now wondering if it was actually to do with Olise's (alleged) sell on. Gotta be worth around £150m now.


Why oh why do we have to be owned by such an imbecile

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 30 Dec 2023 17:46

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Pepe the Horseman I was told one of the reasons for Dai fcuking up the deal, was that he wanted a percentage of future player sales, which is obviously ridiculous.

Now wondering if it was actually to do with Olise's (alleged) sell on. Gotta be worth around £150m now.


Why oh why do we have to be owned by such an imbecile


It's probably compulsory for every club, at some point in its history, to be owned by a complete imbecile (or set of imbeciles) and Reading just happens to be going through its imbecile now.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Mid Sussex Royal » 30 Dec 2023 18:55

Pepe the Horseman I was told one of the reasons for Dai fcuking up the deal, was that he wanted a percentage of future player sales, which is obviously ridiculous.

Now wondering if it was actually to do with Olise's (alleged) sell on. Gotta be worth around £150m now.


Sounds like rubbish. Who exactly at the club is worth more than £500k/£1m? The promising academy players are out of contract in the summer.

Olise has no sell on, if you activate a release clause like Palace did they are free to negotiate with the player and not the club.

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by Elm Park Kid » 30 Dec 2023 19:16

To be fair - It's pretty standard that an owner in this position would ask for future payments based on any 'windfalls' the club gets over the next few years. Whether that be promotions, player sales or anything else. Though, that would be based on the assumption that initial sale price was relatively low.

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by Dirk Gently » 30 Dec 2023 19:34

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Pepe the Horseman I was told one of the reasons for Dai fcuking up the deal, was that he wanted a percentage of future player sales, which is obviously ridiculous.

Now wondering if it was actually to do with Olise's (alleged) sell on. Gotta be worth around £150m now.


Why oh why do we have to be owned by such an imbecile


Because the more toxic owners you have, the more of a poisoned chalice you've become, so the more likely that you'll be bought by an imbecile. Every sensible, rational potential buyer will have taken one look and run a mile.


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by Snowflake Royal » 30 Dec 2023 20:24

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Pepe the Horseman I was told one of the reasons for Dai fcuking up the deal, was that he wanted a percentage of future player sales, which is obviously ridiculous.

Now wondering if it was actually to do with Olise's (alleged) sell on. Gotta be worth around £150m now.


Sounds like rubbish. Who exactly at the club is worth more than £500k/£1m? The promising academy players are out of contract in the summer.

Olise has no sell on, if you activate a release clause like Palace did they are free to negotiate with the player and not the club.

Now? No one.

In the future? Potentially any of Abbey, Smith, Ehibhatiomhan, Craig, Vickers, Bindon, Dorsett, Holmes, McIntyre, Knibbs, Elliott, Savage, Wareham, Mbengue, Abrefa, Carson, CBC...

Who thought Richards would get a Bundasliga move a year before he did?

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Pepe the Horseman » 30 Dec 2023 23:02

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Pepe the Horseman I was told one of the reasons for Dai fcuking up the deal, was that he wanted a percentage of future player sales, which is obviously ridiculous.

Now wondering if it was actually to do with Olise's (alleged) sell on. Gotta be worth around £150m now.


Sounds like rubbish. Who exactly at the club is worth more than £500k/£1m? The promising academy players are out of contract in the summer.

Olise has no sell on, if you activate a release clause like Palace did they are free to negotiate with the player and not the club.

The person that told me has absolutely no reason to lie, so it's definitely not rubbish.

Wrt Olise, there were some fairly reliable people who were adamant that he had a sell on. I know we couldn't have negotiated one with Palace, but it's possible that the actual buyout clause was £8m+ x% sell on.

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by Orion1871 » 30 Dec 2023 23:06

Didn't Bowen say there is no Olise sell on clause at the Blue Collar thingy?

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by Pepe the Horseman » 31 Dec 2023 00:58

Orion1871 Didn't Bowen say there is no Olise sell on clause at the Blue Collar thingy?

Yeh, but some twitter random has claimed we do, so I'd rather believe him as it gives us something to cling on to.


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by Reading4eva » 31 Dec 2023 08:56

The man has managed this football club so badly, so much so we might end up in the basement division and has the audacity of asking for future bonus payments!

He can oxf*rd right off!

Maybe he fancies a trip to The Canaries. I have heard there is a certain yacht available when he gets there :arrow:

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by Hound » 31 Dec 2023 09:10

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Orion1871 Didn't Bowen say there is no Olise sell on clause at the Blue Collar thingy?

Yeh, but some twitter random has claimed we do, so I'd rather believe him as it gives us something to cling on to.


Tbf Bowen’s not been wholly reliable either. Even a couple of percent sell on would be an absolute windfall on Olise if he did get sold now.

It’s plausible that Dai is holding on for some sort of cut of sales. I’m still not convinced he’s actively wanting to sell, with Ejaria gone costs must be reducing rapidly. There’s a chance he’ll just hide away as much as he can and stumble on, hoping that we do somehow push for promotion again without splashing out

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by tmesis » 31 Dec 2023 11:01

It would seem unlikely that a release fee would also come with a sell-on clause, but I guess it's not impossible. It depends if we had someone savvy enough to draw up the contract to realise that if he goes for £8 million, then there's potential that he could be resold for even more later.

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by Snowflake Royal » 31 Dec 2023 11:44

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Orion1871 Didn't Bowen say there is no Olise sell on clause at the Blue Collar thingy?

Yeh, but some twitter random has claimed we do, so I'd rather believe him as it gives us something to cling on to.


Tbf Bowen’s not been wholly reliable either. Even a couple of percent sell on would be an absolute windfall on Olise if he did get sold now.

It’s plausible that Dai is holding on for some sort of cut of sales. I’m still not convinced he’s actively wanting to sell, with Ejaria gone costs must be reducing rapidly. There’s a chance he’ll just hide away as much as he can and stumble on, hoping that we do somehow push for promotion again without splashing out

The things Bowen hasn't been reliable on are the more political aspects where a club representative is going to have to take the party line/say nothing of import, and future predictions about financing/sanctions.

He's not going to be incorrect about the details of a transfer. There's no reason to be economical with the truth there.


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Hound » 31 Dec 2023 11:53

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Pepe the Horseman Yeh, but some twitter random has claimed we do, so I'd rather believe him as it gives us something to cling on to.


Tbf Bowen’s not been wholly reliable either. Even a couple of percent sell on would be an absolute windfall on Olise if he did get sold now.

It’s plausible that Dai is holding on for some sort of cut of sales. I’m still not convinced he’s actively wanting to sell, with Ejaria gone costs must be reducing rapidly. There’s a chance he’ll just hide away as much as he can and stumble on, hoping that we do somehow push for promotion again without splashing out

The things Bowen hasn't been reliable on are the more political aspects where a club representative is going to have to take the party line/say nothing of import, and future predictions about financing/sanctions.

He's not going to be incorrect about the details of a transfer. There's no reason to be economical with the truth there.


Dunno, if the club was in line for a fair chunk of money based on something out of their control it’s prob easier to just deny it

Id class it as unlikely but at the same time wouldn’t be suprised if we would be in line for something

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 31 Dec 2023 16:31

I don't think Bowen has ever knowingly misled anybody, but when he has tried to be positive he has been undermined by the hierarchy. He said our punishments were over but then we missed player and HMRC payments. Our punishments were over for the original 2017-19 spending.

Then there was the Blue Collar night with Carey and Dublin which was initially cause for optimism, but that was based on the assumption that Dai was committed and our issues were not with funding but FFP. This proved to be wrong.

Recently he said the sale process was nearing its end, then Dai moved the goalposts.

Every time he has tried to offer us positivity or reassurance, he's been made to look an idiot. So it's hardly surprising he keeps his silence quite a lot.

But despite all this, I don't question his sincerity. He simply comes across as genuine, and if he is a bullshit merchant then he's a bloody convincing one. And our transfer windows have been better since he returned. I'd like to see what he could do if the club sorted its ownership issues.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by RG30 » 31 Dec 2023 16:50

Bowen also refusing to talk to the local media at the moment which is a pretty bizarre approach to take.

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by tmesis » 31 Dec 2023 16:53

RG30 Bowen also refusing to talk to the local media at the moment which is a pretty bizarre approach to take.

Other than Radio Berks, does the local media even exist any more?

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by RG30 » 31 Dec 2023 17:04

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 31 Dec 2023 18:04

RG30 Bowen also refusing to talk to the local media at the moment which is a pretty bizarre approach to take.


He's been refusing to speak to them for months. He hides behind the fact he has nothing to say or to add to what is already in the public domain, which you can sort of understand as I presume that the owner fails to tell anyone anything apart from the barest minimum. When news broke of the sale being close he did put a communication out into the public domain fairly sharpish so he does seem to say something when there is actually something he can say that isn't governed by NDAs etc.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Snowflake Royal » 31 Dec 2023 18:29

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RG30 Bowen also refusing to talk to the local media at the moment which is a pretty bizarre approach to take.


He's been refusing to speak to them for months. He hides behind the fact he has nothing to say or to add to what is already in the public domain, which you can sort of understand as I presume that the owner fails to tell anyone anything apart from the barest minimum. When news broke of the sale being close he did put a communication out into the public domain fairly sharpish so he does seem to say something when there is actually something he can say that isn't governed by NDAs etc.

There's nothing for him to say to the media other than exactly what he's already said to them.

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