by Uke » 13 Jan 2024 10:42
by windermereROYAL » 13 Jan 2024 10:44
Snowflake RoyalNathStPaul I like you Stranded, you're a source of enjoyable football related content but your stance is a great example of why we are where we are.
Supporters have sat back and watched this all unfold in front of them for years and we have been the most patient set of supporters of all time. We are literally not going to exist this time next year unless people take a proper stand, sitting back and watching time is over. Tennis balls are meaningless. Protesting on the pitch after the match does nothing to help, after a match the eyes of the media and club higher ups turn to something else. The supporters in that stadium have to show the world just how they feel about our ownership and as many eyes need to be on it as possible. The only way to do this is to go early and get on the pitch to peacefully demonstrate. I am NOT endorsing damaging of property or fighting with stewards or police. I am endorsing going on the pitch, sitting down and not moving. Banners, posters, chanting etc. The game has to stop during play for it to make an impact.
And Windermere worried about fines??? There won't be a club to fine in a years time unless the strongest possible protest happens today. Is that a better solution for you?
Your protest changes nothing. It doesn’t encourage buyers, it won’t persuade Dai to go. It won't be wecomed by players or staff.
It's all downside.
by Mr Angry » 13 Jan 2024 10:45
by Ten Bobsworth » 13 Jan 2024 10:50
by blythspartan » 13 Jan 2024 10:51
Snowflake RoyalNathStPaul I like you Stranded, you're a source of enjoyable football related content but your stance is a great example of why we are where we are.
Supporters have sat back and watched this all unfold in front of them for years and we have been the most patient set of supporters of all time. We are literally not going to exist this time next year unless people take a proper stand, sitting back and watching time is over. Tennis balls are meaningless. Protesting on the pitch after the match does nothing to help, after a match the eyes of the media and club higher ups turn to something else. The supporters in that stadium have to show the world just how they feel about our ownership and as many eyes need to be on it as possible. The only way to do this is to go early and get on the pitch to peacefully demonstrate. I am NOT endorsing damaging of property or fighting with stewards or police. I am endorsing going on the pitch, sitting down and not moving. Banners, posters, chanting etc. The game has to stop during play for it to make an impact.
And Windermere worried about fines??? There won't be a club to fine in a years time unless the strongest possible protest happens today. Is that a better solution for you?
Your protest changes nothing. It doesn’t encourage buyers, it won’t persuade Dai to go. It won't be wecomed by players or staff.
It's all downside.
by Snowflake Royal » 13 Jan 2024 10:52
windermereROYALSnowflake RoyalNathStPaul I like you Stranded, you're a source of enjoyable football related content but your stance is a great example of why we are where we are.
Supporters have sat back and watched this all unfold in front of them for years and we have been the most patient set of supporters of all time. We are literally not going to exist this time next year unless people take a proper stand, sitting back and watching time is over. Tennis balls are meaningless. Protesting on the pitch after the match does nothing to help, after a match the eyes of the media and club higher ups turn to something else. The supporters in that stadium have to show the world just how they feel about our ownership and as many eyes need to be on it as possible. The only way to do this is to go early and get on the pitch to peacefully demonstrate. I am NOT endorsing damaging of property or fighting with stewards or police. I am endorsing going on the pitch, sitting down and not moving. Banners, posters, chanting etc. The game has to stop during play for it to make an impact.
And Windermere worried about fines??? There won't be a club to fine in a years time unless the strongest possible protest happens today. Is that a better solution for you?
Your protest changes nothing. It doesn’t encourage buyers, it won’t persuade Dai to go. It won't be wecomed by players or staff.
It's all downside.
So basically we`re in the coffin and just waiting for the lid to be nailed down.
by Snowflake Royal » 13 Jan 2024 10:55
blythspartanSnowflake RoyalNathStPaul I like you Stranded, you're a source of enjoyable football related content but your stance is a great example of why we are where we are.
Supporters have sat back and watched this all unfold in front of them for years and we have been the most patient set of supporters of all time. We are literally not going to exist this time next year unless people take a proper stand, sitting back and watching time is over. Tennis balls are meaningless. Protesting on the pitch after the match does nothing to help, after a match the eyes of the media and club higher ups turn to something else. The supporters in that stadium have to show the world just how they feel about our ownership and as many eyes need to be on it as possible. The only way to do this is to go early and get on the pitch to peacefully demonstrate. I am NOT endorsing damaging of property or fighting with stewards or police. I am endorsing going on the pitch, sitting down and not moving. Banners, posters, chanting etc. The game has to stop during play for it to make an impact.
And Windermere worried about fines??? There won't be a club to fine in a years time unless the strongest possible protest happens today. Is that a better solution for you?
Your protest changes nothing. It doesn’t encourage buyers, it won’t persuade Dai to go. It won't be wecomed by players or staff.
It's all downside.
I agree it’s all downside.
For me personally, I want to go on the pitch today. I appreciate that it’ll probably achieve nothing but no way am I standing by and watching this club cease to exist without doing anything.
by WestYorksRoyal » 13 Jan 2024 11:02
by Snowflake Royal » 13 Jan 2024 11:04
WestYorksRoyal I'm fortunate that my local MP is sports minister. I haven't written to him yet as he's never replied to anything in the past, plus would he really care about a sports team miles away? But probably worth a shot now.
by Royal_jimmy » 13 Jan 2024 11:08
morganb If the idea of the pitch invasion is to get media attention then doing so at the end of the game makes little sense.
If SBWD don't want to upset the players or club -
Surely delaying the start of the game would be better as when other fans go to check the half time/full time scores the Reading result will only be a latest score and the media will need to explain why.
What disruption will a post-match invasion cause that will reach the media?
by Mid Sussex Royal » 13 Jan 2024 11:10
by NathStPaul » 13 Jan 2024 11:11
by Mid Sussex Royal » 13 Jan 2024 11:23
Snowflake RoyalWestYorksRoyal I'm fortunate that my local MP is sports minister. I haven't written to him yet as he's never replied to anything in the past, plus would he really care about a sports team miles away? But probably worth a shot now.
MPs care about correspondence. One letter here or there, they can ignore. 20 it's hard to ignore. 200, they can't ignore. Not least because they have to pay for the staff to deal with their post.
by leon » 13 Jan 2024 11:47
Snowflake RoyalWestYorksRoyal I'm fortunate that my local MP is sports minister. I haven't written to him yet as he's never replied to anything in the past, plus would he really care about a sports team miles away? But probably worth a shot now.
MPs care about correspondence. One letter here or there, they can ignore. 20 it's hard to ignore. 200, they can't ignore. Not least because they have to pay for the staff to deal with their post.
by Sutekh » 13 Jan 2024 11:48
biffWestYorksRoyal Can I ask what the purpose of abandonment is? There is an understandable "We must to do more, quickly" instinctive reaction, and the logical step is getting the game abandoned. But what do we think it will actually achieve?
I think our next steps need to be getting the political involvement going again, piling on whatever pressure we can on the EFL to intervene. We also need to see if we can get more open support from the players and staff; we all know they hate Dai and Pang as much as we do, and they could have far more impact. Let's say they refuse to travel to Fleetwood partly due to the hotel situation but also the situation of the club. Different stratosphere of attention.
Too sensible, doesn't give people the chance to appear hard on the Internet.
by Delboy » 13 Jan 2024 11:52
by biff » 13 Jan 2024 12:05
SutekhbiffWestYorksRoyal Can I ask what the purpose of abandonment is? There is an understandable "We must to do more, quickly" instinctive reaction, and the logical step is getting the game abandoned. But what do we think it will actually achieve?
I think our next steps need to be getting the political involvement going again, piling on whatever pressure we can on the EFL to intervene. We also need to see if we can get more open support from the players and staff; we all know they hate Dai and Pang as much as we do, and they could have far more impact. Let's say they refuse to travel to Fleetwood partly due to the hotel situation but also the situation of the club. Different stratosphere of attention.
Too sensible, doesn't give people the chance to appear hard on the Internet.
The FL can't actually do anything except apply their rules which means more points deductions and/or fines which don't actually help the situation. They aren't going to suddenly say "oh poor things let's be really helpful and supportive in their sodding about in games and towards other teams". At the end of the day the owner does not enough money (for whatever reason which may or may not be of his own making) to run the club so until he sells we're stuck in this situation and, to be honest, the more cr@p and fines various actions and demos generate in supposedly "hightening awareness" won't help the selling in the long run.
by JR » 13 Jan 2024 12:10
Snowflake RoyalblythspartanSnowflake Royal Your protest changes nothing. It doesn’t encourage buyers, it won’t persuade Dai to go. It won't be wecomed by players or staff.
It's all downside.
I agree it’s all downside.
For me personally, I want to go on the pitch today. I appreciate that it’ll probably achieve nothing but no way am I standing by and watching this club cease to exist without doing anything.
So do something else.
Make a banner. That's doing something
Write to the FL, the Sports minister, the shadow sports minister and your MP. That's doing something.
Go shit on the doorstep of Dai's house in London. That's doing something.
by MIM Royal » 13 Jan 2024 12:16
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