#SellBeforeWeDai Action/Inaction Group

[Reading4eva]

Interesting* if true & probably leaves us totally fcuked:

https://twitter.com/mikeygow/status/1746263168840552952

Surely, surely, if true this could work in the clubs favour. He would need to desperately sell the club. Also a Chinese bank I wonder if they could really recoup funds off a football club based in the UK?

Lots of questions to be asked and answered on this

Trouble is, if all that is proven true, is would any prospective buyer want to get involved in negotiations with anyone like that?

Your quite right however this is where the EFL need to step in and make the right calls. And the fans have forced them to do that now.

Behind closed doors etc. I can't see. They now need to go back and hit Dai with this banning order and a substantial fine, not a tiny one. The man has the money, its now that the EFL need to take further steps.

Maybe Bearwood can also be protected by the council? Then the two assets are to be used for sporting purposes only.

The club needs to be worth nothing to Dai. If he has no benefit of owning the ground, owning the training ground and is banned by the EFL from being a Director, the club is worth zero to him. And hit Pang with the same.

It'll be rocky but give power to Bowen until a buyer is found. At the moment he might be CEO, but its just a title. He might as well have the role of Mickey Mouse. Its the same if all the crooks are doing is going over your head.

[JR]

Imagine it would be well covered on 606 given how close Robbie is to it.

Let’s hope the usual Radio Berkshire callers don’t go national.

They are only allowed one external call from the mental facility they reside in so 606 are probably safe.

Was good actually - they had James Earmshaw on who gave a good level of detail on the background and then later on a lady called Becky who was great and spoke with real emotion and heartache.

[Lower West]

Interesting* if true & probably leaves us totally fcuked:

https://twitter.com/mikeygow/status/1746263168840552952

Surely, surely, if true this could work in the clubs favour. He would need to desperately sell the club. Also a Chinese bank I wonder if they could really recoup funds off a football club based in the UK?

Lots of questions to be asked and answered on this

Trouble is, if all that is proven true, is would any prospective buyer want to get involved in negotiations with anyone like that?

Hardly new news. Dai was personally cited (with others) when the company's shares were suspended at the end of October 2022. At the time was around £132 million of loans being questioned. Been some minor updates released to the HK stock exchange, but nothing definitive. Not least any financial statements for the year ended 31st December 2022. If my memory serves me correctly. Have until sometime in April to present accounts or the company gets delisted from the stock exchange. Seems Dai's world is imploding around him.

[Sutekh]

And the worst thing is those who whinge like it's the end of the world because their team isn't in the top 4 of the PL just shows how out of touch these lemons are with real football.

Just in case though, probably best to get cracking on setting the new club up asap then. Suggest calling it Reading Phoenix (anything other than AFC Reading anyway). Get the ball rolling now, might then be able to get a league place somewhere in time for next season.

Or there's always Reading City.

[Orion1871]

Imagine it would be well covered on 606 given how close Robbie is to it.

Let’s hope the usual Radio Berkshire callers don’t go national.

They are only allowed one external call from the mental facility they reside in so 606 are probably safe.

The first caller on was a Man City "fan" who said he was "Pep out last week, but he can have a bit more more time now" after their result against Newcastle.

[WestYorksRoyal]

And the worst thing is those who whinge like it's the end of the world because their team isn't in the top 4 of the PL just shows how out of touch these lemons are with real football.

Just in case though, probably best to get cracking on setting the new club up asap then. Suggest calling it Reading Phoenix (anything other than AFC Reading anyway). Get the ball rolling now, might then be able to get a league place somewhere in time for next season.

Or there's always Reading City.

Dai Yongge is a C*nt FC.

[The Cap]

Really good interview on Sky just now with Ben Thomas from the Tilehurst End Podcast. Thought he spoke very eloquently and conveyed the current situation in a very measured way. Full marks to you sir

[Sebastian the Red]

So I just went round and spoke to him again, he doubled down he said all fans will be removed from the stadium and it will take place behind closed doors. The game will NOT be abandoned.

I didn’t disbelieve what he said, I disbelieve that they can achieve it if enough people go on the pitch.

And if things get violent, the plan will change.

This is a plan for up to a few hundred, or if people get bored quickly.

He said the police will clear the pitch and empty the stadium if necessary. And the game will continue the behind closed doors. I don’t know why you need to argue with me ian. He is a senior steward and they all had their briefings before the game. So why don’t you stop arguing and just accept what I’m/ he is saying ffs why do you need to just argue all the fcuking time Jfc

lol at you.

[Brogue]

I didn’t disbelieve what he said, I disbelieve that they can achieve it if enough people go on the pitch.

And if things get violent, the plan will change.

This is a plan for up to a few hundred, or if people get bored quickly.

He said the police will clear the pitch and empty the stadium if necessary. And the game will continue the behind closed doors. I don’t know why you need to argue with me ian. He is a senior steward and they all had their briefings before the game. So why don’t you stop arguing and just accept what I’m/ he is saying ffs why do you need to just argue all the fcuking time Jfc

lol at you.

Hi seb, how’s things?

[Sebastian the Red]

He said the police will clear the pitch and empty the stadium if necessary. And the game will continue the behind closed doors. I don’t know why you need to argue with me ian. He is a senior steward and they all had their briefings before the game. So why don’t you stop arguing and just accept what I’m/ he is saying ffs why do you need to just argue all the fcuking time Jfc

lol at you.

Hi seb, how’s things?

Pretty good, generally.

As I said earlier on in this thread, however, despite my general trolly attitude and my pretend disdain for the club and the fans, I am really quite upset by all the developments of late.

In terms of our approach, we appear to have the suffragette stuff in the bag, but I can’t see anyone doing the suffragist side of things. We need both the anger and protest, alongside the comms, lobbying and press. The comms are improving but for months it looked all very amateur.

In reality, with the law as it stands, there is little to be achieved. Unless we have governmental intervention (alongside an overhaul of football ownership rules generally), the club is just an asset owned by a foreign investor, who appears not to be engaging. If he wants to tank the value of his assets by letting the club die, that is currently within his power. And I hate it.

None of this is the fault of the fans, players or staff. Fans are understandably showing anger in the only way we have the power to achieve. Staff and players are being incredibly, professionally restrained - in their position I am not sure I could show the same coolness and decorum. It’s all a bit miserable.

But, to get back on point - you owe Ian an apology. He was simply pointing out the reality of police powers. He’s was absolutely correct in his analysis. You accused him of bad faith - which was clearly not the case. Perhaps act with more generosity if spirit in future.

[Brogue]

lol at you.

Hi seb, how’s things?

Pretty good, generally.

As I said earlier on in this thread, however, despite my general trolly attitude and my pretend disdain for the club and the fans, I am really quite upset by all the developments of late.

In terms of our approach, we appear to have the suffragette stuff in the bag, but I can’t see anyone doing the suffragist side of things. We need both the anger and protest, alongside the comms, lobbying and press. The comms are improving but for months it looked all very amateur.

In reality, with the law as it stands, there is little to be achieved. Unless we have governmental intervention (alongside an overhaul of football ownership rules generally), the club is just an asset owned by a foreign investor, who appears not to be engaging. If he wants to tank the value of his assets by letting the club die, that is currently within his power. And I hate it.

None of this is the fault of the fans, players or staff. Fans are understandably showing anger in the only way we have the power to achieve. Staff and players are being incredibly, professionally restrained - in their position I am not sure I could show the same coolness and decorum. It’s all a bit miserable.

But, to get back on point - you owe Ian an apology. He was simply pointing out the reality of police powers. He’s was absolutely correct in his analysis. You accused him of bad faith - which was clearly not the case. Perhaps act with more generosity if spirit in future.

Am I oxf*rd apologising to ian. You must be new here

[leon]

Hi seb, how’s things?

Pretty good, generally.

As I said earlier on in this thread, however, despite my general trolly attitude and my pretend disdain for the club and the fans, I am really quite upset by all the developments of late.

In terms of our approach, we appear to have the suffragette stuff in the bag, but I can’t see anyone doing the suffragist side of things. We need both the anger and protest, alongside the comms, lobbying and press. The comms are improving but for months it looked all very amateur.

In reality, with the law as it stands, there is little to be achieved. Unless we have governmental intervention (alongside an overhaul of football ownership rules generally), the club is just an asset owned by a foreign investor, who appears not to be engaging. If he wants to tank the value of his assets by letting the club die, that is currently within his power. And I hate it.

None of this is the fault of the fans, players or staff. Fans are understandably showing anger in the only way we have the power to achieve. Staff and players are being incredibly, professionally restrained - in their position I am not sure I could show the same coolness and decorum. It’s all a bit miserable.

But, to get back on point - you owe Ian an apology. He was simply pointing out the reality of police powers. He’s was absolutely correct in his analysis. You accused him of bad faith - which was clearly not the case. Perhaps act with more generosity if spirit in future.

Am I oxf*rd apologising to ian. You must be new here

“Generosity of spirit” I’ve heard it all now Sebastian.

[Fezza]

lol at you.

Hi seb, how’s things?

Pretty good, generally.

As I said earlier on in this thread, however, despite my general trolly attitude and my pretend disdain for the club and the fans, I am really quite upset by all the developments of late.

In terms of our approach, we appear to have the suffragette stuff in the bag, but I can’t see anyone doing the suffragist side of things. We need both the anger and protest, alongside the comms, lobbying and press. The comms are improving but for months it looked all very amateur.

In reality, with the law as it stands, there is little to be achieved. Unless we have governmental intervention (alongside an overhaul of football ownership rules generally), the club is just an asset owned by a foreign investor, who appears not to be engaging. If he wants to tank the value of his assets by letting the club die, that is currently within his power. And I hate it.

None of this is the fault of the fans, players or staff. Fans are understandably showing anger in the only way we have the power to achieve. Staff and players are being incredibly, professionally restrained - in their position I am not sure I could show the same coolness and decorum. It’s all a bit miserable.

But, to get back on point - you owe Ian an apology. He was simply pointing out the reality of police powers. He’s was absolutely correct in his analysis. You accused him of bad faith - which was clearly not the case. Perhaps act with more generosity if spirit in future.

This is an enormously eloquent explanation of where we are.

[leon]

Hi seb, how’s things?

Pretty good, generally.

As I said earlier on in this thread, however, despite my general trolly attitude and my pretend disdain for the club and the fans, I am really quite upset by all the developments of late.

In terms of our approach, we appear to have the suffragette stuff in the bag, but I can’t see anyone doing the suffragist side of things. We need both the anger and protest, alongside the comms, lobbying and press. The comms are improving but for months it looked all very amateur.

In reality, with the law as it stands, there is little to be achieved. Unless we have governmental intervention (alongside an overhaul of football ownership rules generally), the club is just an asset owned by a foreign investor, who appears not to be engaging. If he wants to tank the value of his assets by letting the club die, that is currently within his power. And I hate it.

None of this is the fault of the fans, players or staff. Fans are understandably showing anger in the only way we have the power to achieve. Staff and players are being incredibly, professionally restrained - in their position I am not sure I could show the same coolness and decorum. It’s all a bit miserable.

But, to get back on point - you owe Ian an apology. He was simply pointing out the reality of police powers. He’s was absolutely correct in his analysis. You accused him of bad faith - which was clearly not the case. Perhaps act with more generosity if spirit in future.

This is an enormously eloquent explanation of where we are.

Please dont blow smoke up his Woking arse

[andrew1957]

Not sure if it will do any good but I have emailed the EFL and fully backed yesterdays actions and said that rather than punishing the club, they need to work with fan organisations to do all they can to get the parasite owner out of our club.

Perhaps if enough of us email it will show the strength of feeling.

[Clyde1998]

Not sure if it will do any good but I have emailed the EFL and fully backed yesterdays actions and said that rather than punishing the club, they need to work with fan organisations to do all they can to get the parasite owner out of our club.

Perhaps if enough of us email it will show the strength of feeling.

Crowd-related issues gets dealt with by the FA rather than the EFL. It will ultimately be the FA that will decide whether to punish the club or not.

[NathStPaul]

Not sure if it will do any good but I have emailed the EFL and fully backed yesterdays actions and said that rather than punishing the club, they need to work with fan organisations to do all they can to get the parasite owner out of our club.

Perhaps if enough of us email it will show the strength of feeling.

I'll get right on it Andy.

Shall I also let the EFL know about the danger of vaccines and how that we are being controlled by "them"?

[Snowflake Royal]

Hi seb, how’s things?

Pretty good, generally.

As I said earlier on in this thread, however, despite my general trolly attitude and my pretend disdain for the club and the fans, I am really quite upset by all the developments of late.

In terms of our approach, we appear to have the suffragette stuff in the bag, but I can’t see anyone doing the suffragist side of things. We need both the anger and protest, alongside the comms, lobbying and press. The comms are improving but for months it looked all very amateur.

In reality, with the law as it stands, there is little to be achieved. Unless we have governmental intervention (alongside an overhaul of football ownership rules generally), the club is just an asset owned by a foreign investor, who appears not to be engaging. If he wants to tank the value of his assets by letting the club die, that is currently within his power. And I hate it.

None of this is the fault of the fans, players or staff. Fans are understandably showing anger in the only way we have the power to achieve. Staff and players are being incredibly, professionally restrained - in their position I am not sure I could show the same coolness and decorum. It’s all a bit miserable.

But, to get back on point - you owe Ian an apology. He was simply pointing out the reality of police powers. He’s was absolutely correct in his analysis. You accused him of bad faith - which was clearly not the case. Perhaps act with more generosity if spirit in future.

Am I oxf*rd apologising to ian. You must be new here

Well done on managing to salvage zero dignity from this, and learn nothing.

[Snowflake Royal]

Not sure if it will do any good but I have emailed the EFL and fully backed yesterdays actions and said that rather than punishing the club, they need to work with fan organisations to do all they can to get the parasite owner out of our club.

Perhaps if enough of us email it will show the strength of feeling.

It will have no effect, because they have rules and procedures to follow to ensure consistency.

[Brogue]

Pretty good, generally.

As I said earlier on in this thread, however, despite my general trolly attitude and my pretend disdain for the club and the fans, I am really quite upset by all the developments of late.

In terms of our approach, we appear to have the suffragette stuff in the bag, but I can’t see anyone doing the suffragist side of things. We need both the anger and protest, alongside the comms, lobbying and press. The comms are improving but for months it looked all very amateur.

In reality, with the law as it stands, there is little to be achieved. Unless we have governmental intervention (alongside an overhaul of football ownership rules generally), the club is just an asset owned by a foreign investor, who appears not to be engaging. If he wants to tank the value of his assets by letting the club die, that is currently within his power. And I hate it.

None of this is the fault of the fans, players or staff. Fans are understandably showing anger in the only way we have the power to achieve. Staff and players are being incredibly, professionally restrained - in their position I am not sure I could show the same coolness and decorum. It’s all a bit miserable.

But, to get back on point - you owe Ian an apology. He was simply pointing out the reality of police powers. He’s was absolutely correct in his analysis. You accused him of bad faith - which was clearly not the case. Perhaps act with more generosity if spirit in future.

Am I oxf*rd apologising to ian. You must be new here

Well done on managing to salvage zero dignity from this, and learn nothing.

Ian lecturing on dignity everyone