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Re: Potential New Owners

by Royal Ginger » 21 Jan 2024 22:39

I’d largely say the Thai consortium was neutral at worst. Saved us from Zingarevic and had the decency to duck out when they were done.

Downside is they let Dai take over but that’s a him thing and it’s always a roll of the dice.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Sutekh » 22 Jan 2024 07:57

Royal Ginger I’d largely say the Thai consortium was neutral at worst. Saved us from Zingarevic and had the decency to duck out when they were done.

Downside is they let Dai take over but that’s a him thing and it’s always a roll of the dice.


Thais only cared about getting the car park! Although he saved the club (the first time) by buying it, I never took to Smee for the ridiculous sacking of Maurice Evans and then the seeming failure to support the manager after getting to the 2nd tier.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jan 2024 08:37

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Royal Ginger I’d largely say the Thai consortium was neutral at worst. Saved us from Zingarevic and had the decency to duck out when they were done.

Downside is they let Dai take over but that’s a him thing and it’s always a roll of the dice.


Thais only cared about getting the car park! Although he saved the club (the first time) by buying it, I never took to Smee for the ridiculous sacking of Maurice Evans and then the seeming failure to support the manager after getting to the 2nd tier.

They sorted out Vibrac and HMRC. Started bringing the wage bill down to manageable levels, and had the club moving in the right direction.

They were good for the club.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Orion1871 » 22 Jan 2024 09:45

Doesn't change the fact that they took the land and the hotel. Two things that possibly could have made this current sale a lot smoother.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 22 Jan 2024 10:00

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Royal Ginger I’d largely say the Thai consortium was neutral at worst. Saved us from Zingarevic and had the decency to duck out when they were done.

Downside is they let Dai take over but that’s a him thing and it’s always a roll of the dice.


Thais only cared about getting the car park! Although he saved the club (the first time) by buying it, I never took to Smee for the ridiculous sacking of Maurice Evans and then the seeming failure to support the manager after getting to the 2nd tier.

They sorted out Vibrac and HMRC. Started bringing the wage bill down to manageable levels, and had the club moving in the right direction.

They were good for the club.


Yeah I do think it's a bit of a shame that they couldn't sustain the club in the long-term, although that's probably only because of what Dai has done to the club since he came in. I'd have hoped the Thai's weren't asset stripping and taking money out of the club and running us at a bare minimum.


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Re: Potential New Owners

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jan 2024 12:47

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Thais only cared about getting the car park! Although he saved the club (the first time) by buying it, I never took to Smee for the ridiculous sacking of Maurice Evans and then the seeming failure to support the manager after getting to the 2nd tier.

They sorted out Vibrac and HMRC. Started bringing the wage bill down to manageable levels, and had the club moving in the right direction.

They were good for the club.


Yeah I do think it's a bit of a shame that they couldn't sustain the club in the long-term, although that's probably only because of what Dai has done to the club since he came in. I'd have hoped the Thai's weren't asset stripping and taking money out of the club and running us at a bare minimum.

Well we did basically get to a PO Final and FA Cup Semi under them ... and it seems like letting McDermott go was more personal circumstances they couldn't talk about, which was my only real bone of contention with them.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 22 Jan 2024 13:00

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Snowflake Royal They sorted out Vibrac and HMRC. Started bringing the wage bill down to manageable levels, and had the club moving in the right direction.

They were good for the club.


Yeah I do think it's a bit of a shame that they couldn't sustain the club in the long-term, although that's probably only because of what Dai has done to the club since he came in. I'd have hoped the Thai's weren't asset stripping and taking money out of the club and running us at a bare minimum.

Well we did basically get to a PO Final and FA Cup Semi under them ... and it seems like letting McDermott go was more personal circumstances they couldn't talk about, which was my only real bone of contention with them.


Yeah sorry I wasn't very clear there - I meant as if they'd have stayed on instead of selling to Dai. All immaterial as it happened and they didn't have the finances to keep up with us unfortunately.

Still had some strange moments under them with the season where we made several loan signings and we all know about "that" song...

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Sutekh » 22 Jan 2024 13:45

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Yeah I do think it's a bit of a shame that they couldn't sustain the club in the long-term, although that's probably only because of what Dai has done to the club since he came in. I'd have hoped the Thai's weren't asset stripping and taking money out of the club and running us at a bare minimum.

Well we did basically get to a PO Final and FA Cup Semi under them ... and it seems like letting McDermott go was more personal circumstances they couldn't talk about, which was my only real bone of contention with them.


Yeah sorry I wasn't very clear there - I meant as if they'd have stayed on instead of selling to Dai. All immaterial as it happened and they didn't have the finances to keep up with us unfortunately.

Still had some strange moments under them with the season where we made several loan signings and we all know about "that" song...


Agree that the Thais were on the whole beneficial and so much better than the current problem. Best things IMO were the aforementioned on field "successes", appointing Tevreden, then Clarke and then appointing BM after Clarke had shot his own foot off.

Worst things were selling off the car park, getting shot of BM then failing to find the necessary £300k for Ten Hag.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 22 Jan 2024 14:00

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Snowflake Royal Well we did basically get to a PO Final and FA Cup Semi under them ... and it seems like letting McDermott go was more personal circumstances they couldn't talk about, which was my only real bone of contention with them.


Yeah sorry I wasn't very clear there - I meant as if they'd have stayed on instead of selling to Dai. All immaterial as it happened and they didn't have the finances to keep up with us unfortunately.

Still had some strange moments under them with the season where we made several loan signings and we all know about "that" song...


Agree that the Thais were on the whole beneficial and so much better than the current problem. Best things IMO were the aforementioned on field "successes", appointing Tevreden, then Clarke and then appointing BM after Clarke had shot his own foot off.

Worst things were selling off the car park, getting shot of BM then failing to find the necessary £300k for Ten Hag.


I don't actually think getting rid of BM was a bad decision, irrespective of his personal life which may have been a factor and is obviously a bad situation. But in terms of actual performance of the team, we weren't exactly going anywhere either. I think probably the bad idea was giving him a 2 and a half year contract.

Stam, for all of his faults in the second season, was very good in his first. Sure the football was turgid but it was a very good season overall up until the disappointment of the PO final of course. Obviously it did all begin to unravel and hindsight is a wonderful thing, although I did think we needed to change it up a bit from McDermott.


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Re: Potential New Owners

by WestYorksRoyal » 22 Jan 2024 14:23

Stam's 2nd season was always going to be a challenge; it felt like we had defied the odds in 16/17 and then add in losing Al-Habsi, Williams and, in effect, Kermogant. But I do wonder if he would have done better with better recruitment. Not more money, we spent loads, but smarter recruitment. Players like Edwards, Bodvarsson and Bacuna were not suited to his style, while Aluko fixed one of the few positions that didn't need solving.

I think we could have comfortably been top half if not play offs, and I suspect we'd have seen something like that with the Thais and BT at the helm. Perhaps would have cashed in on Moore and Swift after a couple of years, too.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by From Despair To Where? » 22 Jan 2024 14:28

As for the Aluko signing, we signed Barrow that summer as well who was twice the player for a fraction of the cost.

Signing Aluko made no sense regardless of the cost.

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by YorkshireRoyal99 » 22 Jan 2024 14:35

Barrow is one player that I genuinely missed out of all the one's we let go. Not sure what he was earning (or what fee we actually received for him) but he had plenty of pace which seemed to have caused teams all sorts of problems and had an eye for goal.

Assuming the Thai's were still in charge, I could have easily seen a front 3 of Barrow, a CF and Meite being a threat, especially with players like Swift and someone like Olise coming through in behind as well there. Admittedly, that's quite an attacking line up.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by WestYorksRoyal » 22 Jan 2024 14:38

From Despair To Where? As for the Aluko signing, we signed Barrow that summer as well who was twice the player for a fraction of the cost.

Signing Aluko made no sense regardless of the cost.

It was a ridiculous signing. I remember a former Fulham exec saying they had no intention to sell, but we eventually came in with so much money it was impossible to say no. These would be football fans and part time charlies in charge of football clubs make awful decisions. If anyone has seen Sunderland 'Til I Die, it reminds me of the Will Grigg transfer where their own manager advises them to stop at £1.5m and they end up spending £3m.


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Re: Potential New Owners

by From Despair To Where? » 22 Jan 2024 14:43

Going back a few years, I remember someone at Bradford saying they got a call from Aston Villa offering £100,000 for Ian Ormondroyd. Although he wasn't a 1st team regular, they weren't particularly looking to sell him so as a joke, they replied if you come back with a £500,000 bid, we'll think about it, knowing no-one in their right mind would buy Ormondroyd for £500k.

20 minutes later they get a call back from Villa offering £500,000 for Ian Ormondroyd.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by WestYorksRoyal » 22 Jan 2024 14:51

From Despair To Where? Going back a few years, I remember someone at Bradford saying they got a call from Aston Villa offering £100,000 for Ian Ormondroyd. Although he wasn't a 1st team regular, they weren't particularly looking to sell him so as a joke, they replied if you come back with a £500,000 bid, we'll think about it, knowing no-one in their right mind would buy Ormondroyd for £500k.

20 minutes later they get a call back from Villa offering £500,000 for Ian Ormondroyd.

Hughes to Norwich was probably similar :lol:

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Re: Potential New Owners

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 22 Jan 2024 15:08

From Despair To Where? Going back a few years, I remember someone at Bradford saying they got a call from Aston Villa offering £100,000 for Ian Ormondroyd. Although he wasn't a 1st team regular, they weren't particularly looking to sell him so as a joke, they replied if you come back with a £500,000 bid, we'll think about it, knowing no-one in their right mind would buy Ormondroyd for £500k.

20 minutes later they get a call back from Villa offering £500,000 for Ian Ormondroyd.


This is what I thought when Neymar moved to PSG originally. Barca having a £200m release clause on him thinking that nobody would pay that sort of fee for any player, but it turns out PSG did.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jan 2024 15:31

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Yeah I do think it's a bit of a shame that they couldn't sustain the club in the long-term, although that's probably only because of what Dai has done to the club since he came in. I'd have hoped the Thai's weren't asset stripping and taking money out of the club and running us at a bare minimum.

Well we did basically get to a PO Final and FA Cup Semi under them ... and it seems like letting McDermott go was more personal circumstances they couldn't talk about, which was my only real bone of contention with them.


Yeah sorry I wasn't very clear there - I meant as if they'd have stayed on instead of selling to Dai. All immaterial as it happened and they didn't have the finances to keep up with us unfortunately.

Still had some strange moments under them with the season where we made several loan signings and we all know about "that" song...

I liked it.

Football songs have always been tripe. It was fun and poppy.

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Re: Potential New Owners

by From Despair To Where? » 22 Jan 2024 15:32

I read somewhere that in Spain and Portugal it's obligatory to have a minimum fee clause in the contract. Most clubs set it ridiculously high just as a formality. When Alfa Semedo moved from Benfica to Vitoria Guimaraes, he had a €30m release clause.

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by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jan 2024 15:34

YorkshireRoyal99 Barrow is one player that I genuinely missed out of all the one's we let go. Not sure what he was earning (or what fee we actually received for him) but he had plenty of pace which seemed to have caused teams all sorts of problems and had an eye for goal.

Assuming the Thai's were still in charge, I could have easily seen a front 3 of Barrow, a CF and Meite being a threat, especially with players like Swift and someone like Olise coming through in behind as well there. Admittedly, that's quite an attacking line up.

My favourite memory of Barrow is of him being so unbelievably clueless positionally, that Moore had to run from CB and physically and bodily move him into the right spot to be from an opposition GK, because just shouting instructions didn't work.


Was hilarious.

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by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jan 2024 15:35

From Despair To Where? Going back a few years, I remember someone at Bradford saying they got a call from Aston Villa offering £100,000 for Ian Ormondroyd. Although he wasn't a 1st team regular, they weren't particularly looking to sell him so as a joke, they replied if you come back with a £500,000 bid, we'll think about it, knowing no-one in their right mind would buy Ormondroyd for £500k.

20 minutes later they get a call back from Villa offering £500,000 for Ian Ormondroyd.

Isn't that what happened to Leeds for whathisface the striker who moved sideways for an unbelievable £11m?

Was it Fulham again?

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