Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

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by The Royal Forester » 23 Jan 2024 18:55

No more tennis balls on the pitch, please. I am sure that will come under "disruption to the game".

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by windermereROYAL » 23 Jan 2024 19:06

So tax paid and a Charlie Savage pay rise, is Dai getting his act together before he sells?

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by Sutekh » 23 Jan 2024 19:07

windermereROYAL So tax paid and a Charlie Savage pay rise, is Dai getting his act together before he sells?


No, that's all the Holmes money gone.

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by Mid Sussex Royal » 23 Jan 2024 19:26

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windermereROYAL So tax paid and a Charlie Savage pay rise, is Dai getting his act together before he sells?


No, that's all the Holmes money gone.


Agree - I think its very likely now Dai wants to stop funding/or bare minimum, so the Abbey money plus anyone else who leaves will cover wages and tax for a couple of months.

Time to worry again is probably March if club not sold by then.

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by tmesis » 23 Jan 2024 20:13

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windermereROYAL So tax paid and a Charlie Savage pay rise, is Dai getting his act together before he sells?


No, that's all the Holmes money gone.


Agree - I think its very likely now Dai wants to stop funding/or bare minimum, so the Abbey money plus anyone else who leaves will cover wages and tax for a couple of months.

Time to worry again is probably March if club not sold by then.

Is there any extra income due, such as tv payments etc, sponsorship etc, after January?


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by Winston Biscuit » 23 Jan 2024 20:33

Seen it suggested by some on X, formally known as twitter, that we should allow Port Vale to win. Like when a goal is scored against the spirit of the game and so they let them walk through and even it up.

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by Orion1871 » 23 Jan 2024 20:37

Winston Biscuit Seen it suggested by some on X, formally known as twitter, that we should allow Port Vale to win. Like when a goal is scored against the spirit of the game and so they let them walk through and even it up.


Agreed.

Compensation for the goals they didn't score.

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by RoyalBlue » 24 Jan 2024 17:09

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Winston Biscuit Seen it suggested by some on X, formally known as twitter, that we should allow Port Vale to win. Like when a goal is scored against the spirit of the game and so they let them walk through and even it up.


Agreed.

Compensation for the goals they didn't score.


And, in the same spirit, maybe they'd like to gift us a penalty for the one we weren't awarded!

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by RoyalBlue » 24 Jan 2024 17:18

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At this point a transfer embargo is like banning a homeless person from shopping in Harrods.

I'm not expecting the EFL to give us any more punishments that put the future of the club further at risk, not even for the Port Vale match. Maybe some suspended stuff.


That is laughable! it will be points deducted or to play behind closed doors, and hopefully prosecution for the individuals involved.


Think you got that a bit wrong. Think the EFL have come out of this well. I am glad common sense prevailed.


I agree. Clever, sensible and fair move by the EFL. If only they'd been that clever and sensible a few years ago.

The suspended deduction should act as a very effective deterrent going forwards, unless the shyte really hits the fan.

Had they deducted points straight away, there would have been little to lose in terms of further disruptive protests.


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by Stranded » 25 Jan 2024 12:54

Interesting* thread on how Dai may be absolutely financially screwed:

https://twitter.com/mikeygow/status/1750249299739377877

And that this may help the sale as he is likely to need some cash, quickly.

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by WestYorksRoyal » 25 Jan 2024 13:05

Stranded Interesting* thread on how Dai may be absolutely financially screwed:

https://twitter.com/mikeygow/status/1750249299739377877

And that this may help the sale as he is likely to need some cash, quickly.

There is a negative spin available, that ultimately he won't focus on the sale of a football club which is a drop in the ocean in the context of his financial problems. Which is why continuing protest action is important. We may be a very small problem to him financially, but we can generate headlines and embarrass him so that the most sensible course of action is to take what money he can and get out.

Also, where did this academic come from? Never heard from him before the Port Vale abandonment, and now he's drip feeding new updates on Dai's financial mess every few days.

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by Stranded » 25 Jan 2024 13:09

WestYorksRoyal Also, where did this academic come from? Never heard from him before the Port Vale abandonment, and now he's drip feeding new updates on Dai's financial mess every few days.


2 possible answers to that - its all made up and is a bot of some description or he has been looking at this sort of stuff for a while and the Vale game saw his interest in our connection pique, so he just started including #readingfc on his posts, so Reading fans see them.

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by rabidbee » 25 Jan 2024 13:19

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WestYorksRoyal Also, where did this academic come from? Never heard from him before the Port Vale abandonment, and now he's drip feeding new updates on Dai's financial mess every few days.


2 possible answers to that - its all made up and is a bot of some description or he has been looking at this sort of stuff for a while and the Vale game saw his interest in our connection pique, so he just started including #readingfc on his posts, so Reading fans see them.


Lecturer at Edge Hill University's business school. PhD from Bristol in 2013, previously held posts in New York, China and at Coventry, has published articles in 2019 and 2021 on the Chinese state and football.


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by RoyalBlue » 25 Jan 2024 13:46

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Stranded Interesting* thread on how Dai may be absolutely financially screwed:

https://twitter.com/mikeygow/status/1750249299739377877

And that this may help the sale as he is likely to need some cash, quickly.

There is a negative spin available, that ultimately he won't focus on the sale of a football club which is a drop in the ocean in the context of his financial problems. Which is why continuing protest action is important. We may be a very small problem to him financially, but we can generate headlines and embarrass him so that the most sensible course of action is to take what money he can and get out.

Also, where did this academic come from? Never heard from him before the Port Vale abandonment, and now he's drip feeding new updates on Dai's financial mess every few days.


You may never have heard of him before the Port Vale abandonment but he's not a Johnny Come Lately in quite the way you suggest.

He's a Bluenose but has been tweeting about Chinese corruption and football ownership for a long time. He was tweeting about Reading and Dai's dodgy dealings and background in China in very early December 2023 and has regularly tweeted about Dai, Chinese corruption/fraud and our plight ever since.

https://x.com/mikeygow/status/1731421191229866444?s=46&t=YKifFYAcKviIJ78Vwhd-KA

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by fred sharpes nose » 25 Jan 2024 14:40

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Stranded Interesting* thread on how Dai may be absolutely financially screwed:

https://twitter.com/mikeygow/status/1750249299739377877

And that this may help the sale as he is likely to need some cash, quickly.

There is a negative spin available, that ultimately he won't focus on the sale of a football club which is a drop in the ocean in the context of his financial problems. Which is why continuing protest action is important. We may be a very small problem to him financially, but we can generate headlines and embarrass him so that the most sensible course of action is to take what money he can and get out.

Also, where did this academic come from? Never heard from him before the Port Vale abandonment, and now he's drip feeding new updates on Dai's financial mess every few days.


You may never have heard of him before the Port Vale abandonment but he's not a Johnny Come Lately in quite the way you suggest.

He's a Bluenose but has been tweeting about Chinese corruption and football ownership for a long time. He was tweeting about Reading and Dai's dodgy dealings and background in China in very early December 2023 and has regularly tweeted about Dai, Chinese corruption/fraud and our plight ever since.

https://x.com/mikeygow/status/1731421191229866444?s=46&t=YKifFYAcKviIJ78Vwhd-KA




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seems like an individual with debt - keep opening new creditcard accounts to pay off debts of older ones

https://www1.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listc ... 900262.pdf

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by Lower West » 26 Jan 2024 20:30

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WestYorksRoyal There is a negative spin available, that ultimately he won't focus on the sale of a football club which is a drop in the ocean in the context of his financial problems. Which is why continuing protest action is important. We may be a very small problem to him financially, but we can generate headlines and embarrass him so that the most sensible course of action is to take what money he can and get out.

Also, where did this academic come from? Never heard from him before the Port Vale abandonment, and now he's drip feeding new updates on Dai's financial mess every few days.


You may never have heard of him before the Port Vale abandonment but he's not a Johnny Come Lately in quite the way you suggest.

He's a Bluenose but has been tweeting about Chinese corruption and football ownership for a long time. He was tweeting about Reading and Dai's dodgy dealings and background in China in very early December 2023 and has regularly tweeted about Dai, Chinese corruption/fraud and our plight ever since.

https://x.com/mikeygow/status/1731421191229866444?s=46&t=YKifFYAcKviIJ78Vwhd-KA




this articles explains

seems like an individual with debt - keep opening new creditcard accounts to pay off debts of older ones

https://www1.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listc ... 900262.pdf


The question that remains unaswered since the shares were first suspended in October 2022. Is where did this money go (around £130 million). While the sale of club should be straightforward. Is this part of the jigsaw that's causing delays and new investor hesitation. Dai himself is no longer in full control of events.

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by 3points » 27 Jan 2024 13:30

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You may never have heard of him before the Port Vale abandonment but he's not a Johnny Come Lately in quite the way you suggest.

He's a Bluenose but has been tweeting about Chinese corruption and football ownership for a long time. He was tweeting about Reading and Dai's dodgy dealings and background in China in very early December 2023 and has regularly tweeted about Dai, Chinese corruption/fraud and our plight ever since.

https://x.com/mikeygow/status/1731421191229866444?s=46&t=YKifFYAcKviIJ78Vwhd-KA




this articles explains

seems like an individual with debt - keep opening new creditcard accounts to pay off debts of older ones

https://www1.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listc ... 900262.pdf


The question that remains unaswered since the shares were first suspended in October 2022. Is where did this money go (around £130 million). While the sale of club should be straightforward. Is this part of the jigsaw that's causing delays and new investor hesitation. Dai himself is no longer in full control of events.

There’s another claim for about £200m in/around 2019. That was around the time we magically found money to buy Joao, Puscas , etc. I suspect Dai has been the ultimate beneficiary of these loans, much of which went into RFC. Now his access to these underhand loans has ended that is why he doesn’t have a lot of liquid funds to transfer to the UK to fund the club. All of the transactions are done vi Cayman or BVI based businesses.

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by Lower West » 27 Jan 2024 19:06

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this articles explains

seems like an individual with debt - keep opening new creditcard accounts to pay off debts of older ones

https://www1.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listc ... 900262.pdf


The question that remains unaswered since the shares were first suspended in October 2022. Is where did this money go (around £130 million). While the sale of club should be straightforward. Is this part of the jigsaw that's causing delays and new investor hesitation. Dai himself is no longer in full control of events.

There’s another claim for about £200m in/around 2019. That was around the time we magically found money to buy Joao, Puscas , etc. I suspect Dai has been the ultimate beneficiary of these loans, much of which went into RFC. Now his access to these underhand loans has ended that is why he doesn’t have a lot of liquid funds to transfer to the UK to fund the club. All of the transactions are done vi Cayman or BVI based businesses.


That's the nature of Chinses companies operatng overseas. Not a discussion for now as irrelevant. However perfectly normal.

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by Reading4eva » 28 Jan 2024 18:23

Do a search for the first man mentioned in this video.

If true, appears Dai might have some friends in some powerful places!

https://youtu.be/pFVPZKgmjAE?si=gW3eMBN-SlerPUrx

Not really sure what all this is about mind!

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by RoyalBlue » 28 Jan 2024 19:27

Reading4eva Do a search for the first man mentioned in this video.

If true, appears Dai might have some friends in some powerful places!

https://youtu.be/pFVPZKgmjAE?si=gW3eMBN-SlerPUrx

Not really sure what all this is about mind!


Newton Leng? How is he connected with Dai?

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