Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 01 Feb 2024 15:15

Vickers is annoying to lose but not a disaster to our best XI, hopefully someone else from the U23's can step up potentially, I think we could use a left sided wide player.

Azeez, Knibbs, Smith or Wing or a combination of the four would probably relegate us.

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Snowflake Royal » 01 Feb 2024 15:20

We don't really need a lot of depth at the back.

Yiadom, Mbengue, Bindon, Holmes and MoLOLa all played RB plus Abrefa.

All of them except Abrefa, plus Dean, Hutch and Dorsett can play CB.

Dorsett, Mbengue, Yiadom, MoLOLa and Carson have played LB.

That's about 10 defenders for four positions.

Striker on the other hand is Smith, Ehibhatiomhan who isn't getting time and Wareham who I think is yet to play a league minute.

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Snowflake Royal » 01 Feb 2024 15:26

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Brogue Zane Monnlouis arsenal u23 captain rumoured to be one of the loanees we are looking at

This is what I mentioned earlier. Another kid with no experience. If Holmes gets an injury, do we really want him pairing Bindon? Or would we better giving Dean another chance now we're a settled, better performing team?


we ain't getting anyone in who has experience. if this guy costs us nothing in wages, we've lost nothing. we haven't a pot to piss in, this is the best we can do.

We've lost minutes developing one of our own players for the future.

We put 5 past him ffs.

Big fat no thanks from me.

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Snowflake Royal » 01 Feb 2024 15:27

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Reading youngster Caylan Vickers is set to join Brighton. Previously linked with Real Madrid

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Another one I won't be too fussed with - came in with a bang and gone backwards.

Another player misused by Selles.

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Stranded » 01 Feb 2024 15:28

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Reading youngster Caylan Vickers is set to join Brighton. Previously linked with Real Madrid

^ guardian reporter


Another one I won't be too fussed with - came in with a bang and gone backwards.

Another player misused by Selles.


Maybe or not quite as ready for mens football as hoped. In normal times, I doubt he would have seen half the minutes he got this season. Definitely got the potential to be a very good player though.


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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Snowflake Royal » 01 Feb 2024 15:29

Pepe the Horseman IF Azeez does go, who have we got left in the academy to fill the void?

Vicke... oh.

Elliott...

Camara, Tuma ...where does Wellens play?

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 01 Feb 2024 15:32

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Pepe the Horseman IF Azeez does go, who have we got left in the academy to fill the void?

Vicke... oh.

Elliott...

Camara, Tuma ...where does Wellens play?


Akinde and Okine-Peters I see frequently starting for the U23's. I have absolutely no idea how close they are to first team ability though, if they ever will be.

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Stranded » 01 Feb 2024 15:34

As of 3.30pm UK - we have still only lost Abbey from our strongest XI.

Team/squad for Saturday as it stands

Button

Yiadom
Holmes
Bindon
Dorsett

Savage/Craig
Wing
Knibbs
Mukairu
Azeez

Smith

Bench: Pereira, Mola, Ehibhatiomihan, Mbengue, Hutchinson, Craig/Savage, Eliott

Bench not as strong but it's still OK - guess if the Arsenal kid comes in, he takes a bench spot.

To be fair, will be amazed if that is still the squad by the end of the day.
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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Clyde1998 » 01 Feb 2024 15:35

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Pepe the Horseman IF Azeez does go, who have we got left in the academy to fill the void?

Vicke... oh.

Elliott...

Camara, Tuma ...where does Wellens play?

Based on what I've seen of him, Wellens is an attacking midfielder in a general sense - can play centrally, on either wing, or as a second striker. I think he's got the ability to play a bit deeper as well.


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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by andrew1957 » 01 Feb 2024 15:36

Really depressing time to be an RFC fan losing young starts like Vickers Abbey and Harris. The future of the club being sold off for peanuts. What a disgrace. However, we might just about get away with these sales and survive in League 1 - but if we also lose Azeez to Plymouth as well (let alone the possibility of Knibbs and Smith) it is hard to see us surviving this season.

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Hound » 01 Feb 2024 15:37

Akande meant to be decent I think. Tuma looks good but doesn’t seem to play that often (due to school etc?)

Thing that concerns me as well as surely the club is becoming less attractive if we’re selling off our best youngsters? Is this just Dai moving goalposts again?

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Snowflake Royal » 01 Feb 2024 15:41

andrew1957 Really depressing time to be an RFC fan losing young starts like Vickers Abbey and Harris. The future of the club being sold off for peanuts. What a disgrace. However, we might just about get away with these sales and survive in League 1 - but if we also lose Azeez to Plymouth as well (let alone the possibility of Knibbs and Smith) it is hard to see us surviving this season.

To be honest, very little that happens in the pitch will determine whether the club survives. And its having a club that matters, not L1 or L2.

Although of course L2 would be damaging. We'd still have a club capable of recovering over a l9nger term.

No sale and we'll end. Even with a very successful phoenix club we'll probably never play in the top 2 tiers again.

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Pepe the Horseman » 01 Feb 2024 15:42

Hound Tuma looks good but doesn’t seem to play that often (due to school etc?)

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Hound » 01 Feb 2024 15:45

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andrew1957 Really depressing time to be an RFC fan losing young starts like Vickers Abbey and Harris. The future of the club being sold off for peanuts. What a disgrace. However, we might just about get away with these sales and survive in League 1 - but if we also lose Azeez to Plymouth as well (let alone the possibility of Knibbs and Smith) it is hard to see us surviving this season.

To be honest, very little that happens in the pitch will determine whether the club survives. And its having a club that matters, not L1 or L2.

Although of course L2 would be damaging. We'd still have a club capable of recovering over a l9nger term.

No sale and we'll end. Even with a very successful phoenix club we'll probably never play in the top 2 tiers again.


Though we’re a far more attractive purchase in div1

Go down again and Dai has to drop his asking price…that’s gone well so far

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 01 Feb 2024 15:48

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andrew1957 Really depressing time to be an RFC fan losing young starts like Vickers Abbey and Harris. The future of the club being sold off for peanuts. What a disgrace. However, we might just about get away with these sales and survive in League 1 - but if we also lose Azeez to Plymouth as well (let alone the possibility of Knibbs and Smith) it is hard to see us surviving this season.

To be honest, very little that happens in the pitch will determine whether the club survives. And its having a club that matters, not L1 or L2.

Although of course L2 would be damaging. We'd still have a club capable of recovering over a l9nger term.

No sale and we'll end. Even with a very successful phoenix club we'll probably never play in the top 2 tiers again.


Yep agree, having a club matters. I'd rather go down to L2 and complete a sale of the club rather than stay in L1 with the same owner to be honest at this point.

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Snowflake Royal » 01 Feb 2024 15:49

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andrew1957 Really depressing time to be an RFC fan losing young starts like Vickers Abbey and Harris. The future of the club being sold off for peanuts. What a disgrace. However, we might just about get away with these sales and survive in League 1 - but if we also lose Azeez to Plymouth as well (let alone the possibility of Knibbs and Smith) it is hard to see us surviving this season.

To be honest, very little that happens in the pitch will determine whether the club survives. And its having a club that matters, not L1 or L2.

Although of course L2 would be damaging. We'd still have a club capable of recovering over a l9nger term.

No sale and we'll end. Even with a very successful phoenix club we'll probably never play in the top 2 tiers again.


Though we’re a far more attractive purchase in div1

Go down again and Dai has to drop his asking price…that’s gone well so far

If its not done before the end of the season it doesn't matter, and we've barely been out of the relegation zone, so anyone currently interested has to be on the probability we're in L2 next season and staying up is a happy bonus.

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Snowflake Royal » 01 Feb 2024 15:50

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andrew1957 Really depressing time to be an RFC fan losing young starts like Vickers Abbey and Harris. The future of the club being sold off for peanuts. What a disgrace. However, we might just about get away with these sales and survive in League 1 - but if we also lose Azeez to Plymouth as well (let alone the possibility of Knibbs and Smith) it is hard to see us surviving this season.

To be honest, very little that happens in the pitch will determine whether the club survives. And its having a club that matters, not L1 or L2.

Although of course L2 would be damaging. We'd still have a club capable of recovering over a l9nger term.

No sale and we'll end. Even with a very successful phoenix club we'll probably never play in the top 2 tiers again.


Yep agree, having a club matters. I'd rather go down to L2 and complete a sale of the club rather than stay in L1 with the same owner to be honest at this point.

Don't worry, the second simply isn't an option. We just cease to exist with Dai, stay or drop.

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Hound » 01 Feb 2024 15:50

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Snowflake Royal To be honest, very little that happens in the pitch will determine whether the club survives. And its having a club that matters, not L1 or L2.

Although of course L2 would be damaging. We'd still have a club capable of recovering over a l9nger term.

No sale and we'll end. Even with a very successful phoenix club we'll probably never play in the top 2 tiers again.


Though we’re a far more attractive purchase in div1

Go down again and Dai has to drop his asking price…that’s gone well so far

If its not done before the end of the season it doesn't matter, and we've barely been out of the relegation zone, so anyone currently interested has to be on the probability we're in L2 next season and staying up is a happy bonus.


Wouldn’t say L2 is a probability. Yet anyway

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by Snowflake Royal » 01 Feb 2024 15:53

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Though we’re a far more attractive purchase in div1

Go down again and Dai has to drop his asking price…that’s gone well so far

If its not done before the end of the season it doesn't matter, and we've barely been out of the relegation zone, so anyone currently interested has to be on the probability we're in L2 next season and staying up is a happy bonus.


Wouldn’t say L2 is a probability. Yet anyway

It's got to be at best a coin toss at the moment.

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Re: Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

by WestYorksRoyal » 01 Feb 2024 15:55

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andrew1957 Really depressing time to be an RFC fan losing young starts like Vickers Abbey and Harris. The future of the club being sold off for peanuts. What a disgrace. However, we might just about get away with these sales and survive in League 1 - but if we also lose Azeez to Plymouth as well (let alone the possibility of Knibbs and Smith) it is hard to see us surviving this season.

To be honest, very little that happens in the pitch will determine whether the club survives. And its having a club that matters, not L1 or L2.

Although of course L2 would be damaging. We'd still have a club capable of recovering over a l9nger term.

No sale and we'll end. Even with a very successful phoenix club we'll probably never play in the top 2 tiers again.

Disagree. Club gets sold much more easily in L1. Ideally we'd be mid table by March and Dai gone by May. If we're in a relegation battle up to the last day, it makes a deal very hard to agree. Perhaps we'd have been sold already if we weren't bottom of the league last time we got a load of offers in.

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