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Re: Ex Players

by AthleticoSpizz » 07 Feb 2024 18:47

….and is on their sick-bed and wage bill, nor ours.

Good luck Tom….I know members of the ground staff will miss you.

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Re: Ex Players

by Hound » 07 Feb 2024 19:20

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Hendo Red card was indeed overturned for TMc, but has fractured his ankle and as such is out for the rest of the season.

Such a shame, a really likeable player, but has really suffered with injuries.

People that are laughing at him are real sad sacks.


I don't think anyone's laughing at McIntyre particularly*, more the whole situation of an injury prone player moving to a rival club for what many see as a below a fair price, , then getting a season ending injury on debut.

That's certainly quite ironic. Its also Pompey so any misfortune befalling them is, by default, funny.

*ok, maybe on Twitter but that's a cesspool.


Yes, on Twitter, which is a cesspool, but this is fucking pathetic -> https://twitter.com/CScott____/status/1755242874621317497


Yep that chap is a total clown though tbh

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Re: Ex Players

by Snowflake Royal » 07 Feb 2024 19:40

If you culled everyone with a twitter account the general IQ and happiness of the world would go up several points.

THere'd be some sad collateral damage but net positive

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Re: Ex Players

by Hendo » 08 Feb 2024 08:55

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I don't think anyone's laughing at McIntyre particularly*, more the whole situation of an injury prone player moving to a rival club for what many see as a below a fair price, , then getting a season ending injury on debut.

That's certainly quite ironic. Its also Pompey so any misfortune befalling them is, by default, funny.

*ok, maybe on Twitter but that's a cesspool.


Yes, on Twitter, which is a cesspool, but this is fucking pathetic -> https://twitter.com/CScott____/status/1755242874621317497


Yep that chap is a total clown though tbh


Oh yeah, fully aware of that, there are just some really hateful people out there.

I sometime look at what he tweets and if I am in total disagreement, I know I'm pretty much on the right track.

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Re: Ex Players

by Hound » 08 Feb 2024 09:20

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Yes, on Twitter, which is a cesspool, but this is fucking pathetic -> https://twitter.com/CScott____/status/1755242874621317497


Yep that chap is a total clown though tbh


Oh yeah, fully aware of that, there are just some really hateful people out there.

I sometime look at what he tweets and if I am in total disagreement, I know I'm pretty much on the right track.


Yep same. Just an unpleasant character looking for attention.

Not sure what Twitter does to some people. Just seems free reign to be as vile as possible


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Re: Ex Players

by Brogue » 08 Feb 2024 09:24

Would much prefer pompey Bolton and derby out this division for next season personally. Getting three of the biggest teams out of the league can only be good for us next season if we still exist and still in this division of course. With Rotherham looking likely to come down and sheff we’d and qpr in a financial quagmire I can’t see them posing the same threat as the other three.

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by Hendo » 08 Feb 2024 09:28

Brogue Would much prefer pompey Bolton and derby out this division for next season personally. Getting three of the biggest teams out of the league can only be good for us next season if we still exist and still in this division of course. With Rotherham looking likely to come down and sheff we’d and qpr in a finical quagmire I can’t see them posing the same threat as the other three.


Tend to agree, would probably add Peterborough to that list as well.

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Re: Ex Players

by Snowflake Royal » 08 Feb 2024 09:59

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Brogue Would much prefer pompey Bolton and derby out this division for next season personally. Getting three of the biggest teams out of the league can only be good for us next season if we still exist and still in this division of course. With Rotherham looking likely to come down and sheff we’d and qpr in a finical quagmire I can’t see them posing the same threat as the other three.


Tend to agree, would probably add Peterborough to that list as well.

Yeah, with Brogue on this one.

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Re: Ex Players

by URZZZZ » 08 Feb 2024 10:23

Hound Rino has joined Rotherham on loan (ooc at end of season I think). Did about as well as predicted at Cardiff


Bit late to the party with this one but it’s really noticeable how many players have struggled since leaving us over the course of the past couple of seasons

Talking about the likes of Laurent, Rinomhota, Meite, Ince, Hendrick and Fornah (doesn’t even make the bench for a L1 side!). Moore and Drinkwater never found clubs (can add Ejaria although he is a recent one). Lumley hasn’t played a minute of league football. Joao and Puscas haven’t kicked on. Swift has been largely underwhelming for West Brom although alongside Dele-Bashiru, probably the best of a bad bunch. Imagine we can add McIntyre to this list if he carries on his trend of not being able to play more than 3 games without pulling up.

Don’t blame any player for wanting out given the situation we find ourselves in. But just a thought that perhaps the grass isn’t always greener


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Re: Ex Players

by Brogue » 08 Feb 2024 10:29

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Hound Rino has joined Rotherham on loan (ooc at end of season I think). Did about as well as predicted at Cardiff


Bit late to the party with this one but it’s really noticeable how many players have struggled since leaving us over the course of the past couple of seasons

Talking about the likes of Laurent, Rinomhota, Meite, Ince, Hendrick and Fornah (doesn’t even make the bench for a L1 side!). Moore and Drinkwater never found clubs (can add Ejaria although he is a recent one). Lumley hasn’t played a minute of league football. Joao and Puscas haven’t kicked on. Swift has been largely underwhelming for West Brom although alongside Dele-Bashiru, probably the best of a bad bunch. Imagine we can add McIntyre to this list if he carries on his trend of not being able to play more than 3 games without pulling up.

Don’t blame any player for wanting out given the situation we find ourselves in. But just a thought that perhaps the grass isn’t always greener


also goes to show that they were all pretty shit and the reason we've been shit for years isn't just manager related, its that the players were never really good enough. But for some reason the players never really got the grilling they deserved, and got off lightly imo. Always pointing the finger at the managers yes they have been pretty shit too, but we simply had too many journey men who were not interested or showed any passion to be here.

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Re: Ex Players

by Hound » 08 Feb 2024 11:58

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Hound Rino has joined Rotherham on loan (ooc at end of season I think). Did about as well as predicted at Cardiff


Bit late to the party with this one but it’s really noticeable how many players have struggled since leaving us over the course of the past couple of seasons

Talking about the likes of Laurent, Rinomhota, Meite, Ince, Hendrick and Fornah (doesn’t even make the bench for a L1 side!). Moore and Drinkwater never found clubs (can add Ejaria although he is a recent one). Lumley hasn’t played a minute of league football. Joao and Puscas haven’t kicked on. Swift has been largely underwhelming for West Brom although alongside Dele-Bashiru, probably the best of a bad bunch. Imagine we can add McIntyre to this list if he carries on his trend of not being able to play more than 3 games without pulling up.

Don’t blame any player for wanting out given the situation we find ourselves in. But just a thought that perhaps the grass isn’t always greener


also goes to show that they were all pretty shit and the reason we've been shit for years isn't just manager related, its that the players were never really good enough. But for some reason the players never really got the grilling they deserved, and got off lightly imo. Always pointing the finger at the managers yes they have been pretty shit too, but we simply had too many journey men who were not interested or showed any passion to be here.


It is a bit weird though - some of those like Ince and Laurent were generally good for us. I mean we can say they were shit and the managers were shit but they were good enough to keep us up or be in teams close to the play offs under Pauno

Didn’t realise Fornah wasn’t playing. Had noticed Meite’s Cardiff record is appalling (1 goal 0 assists in 25+ games), Ince not playing etc

Think Laurent and Swift have had good and bad spells - similar to what they had here.

Has there actually been any successes of who have left us in the last 2-3 years bar the mighty Olise and Osho?

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by Hendo » 08 Feb 2024 12:06

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Bit late to the party with this one but it’s really noticeable how many players have struggled since leaving us over the course of the past couple of seasons

Talking about the likes of Laurent, Rinomhota, Meite, Ince, Hendrick and Fornah (doesn’t even make the bench for a L1 side!). Moore and Drinkwater never found clubs (can add Ejaria although he is a recent one). Lumley hasn’t played a minute of league football. Joao and Puscas haven’t kicked on. Swift has been largely underwhelming for West Brom although alongside Dele-Bashiru, probably the best of a bad bunch. Imagine we can add McIntyre to this list if he carries on his trend of not being able to play more than 3 games without pulling up.

Don’t blame any player for wanting out given the situation we find ourselves in. But just a thought that perhaps the grass isn’t always greener


also goes to show that they were all pretty shit and the reason we've been shit for years isn't just manager related, its that the players were never really good enough. But for some reason the players never really got the grilling they deserved, and got off lightly imo. Always pointing the finger at the managers yes they have been pretty shit too, but we simply had too many journey men who were not interested or showed any passion to be here.


It is a bit weird though - some of those like Ince and Laurent were generally good for us. I mean we can say they were shit and the managers were shit but they were good enough to keep us up or be in teams close to the play offs under Pauno

Didn’t realise Fornah wasn’t playing. Had noticed Meite’s Cardiff record is appalling (1 goal 0 assists in 25+ games), Ince not playing etc

Think Laurent and Swift have had good and bad spells - similar to what they had here.

Has there actually been any successes of who have left us in the last 2-3 years bar the mighty Olise and Osho?


Danny Loader would be one
Obita has been ok at different levels since leaving, as has McCleary at Wycombe
Sam Smith was released in 2021, isn't doing too bad right now :wink:
Rafael got promoted with Cruzeiro back in Brazil
Puscas has done ok, obviously promoted with Genoa
Southwood doing ok, but not pulling trees at Cheltenham

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Re: Ex Players

by Hound » 08 Feb 2024 12:19

not sure Loaders exactly smashed it. Tbf not checked his stats for a while so may have missed a progression

Smith is fair enough.


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Re: Ex Players

by Hendo » 08 Feb 2024 12:23

Hound not sure Loaders exactly smashed it. Tbf not checked his stats for a while so may have missed a progression

Smith is fair enough.


31 goals in 114 games for Porto and Porto B isn't too bad. (22 in 63 for Porto B and 9 in 51 for Porto).

He's also played in 6 Champions League games, which is probably the highest level anyone who has recently left has played.

Also won their FA Cup, League Cup and domestic Super Cup, so has certainly added silverware.

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Re: Ex Players

by URZZZZ » 08 Feb 2024 12:26

Watson has done OK for himself at Charlton

Our very own favourite Aluko is well liked amongst the Ipswich staff and supporters (although more so in a coaching and mentoring capacity rather than on the pitch)

Morrison has maintained a decent level for the stage of his career that he’s at

Not sure how the likes of Araruna and McNulty have got on

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by Stranded » 08 Feb 2024 12:29

URZZZZ Watson has done OK for himself at Charlton

Our very own favourite Aluko is well liked amongst the Ipswich staff and supporters (although more so in a coaching and mentoring capacity rather than on the pitch)

Morrison has maintained a decent level for the stage of his career that he’s at

Not sure how the likes of Araruna and McNulty have got on


Araruna doesn't have a club, not sure if he ever got fit. McNulty is playing for Orange County SC in the USL Championship - so 2nd Tier of US football.

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Re: Ex Players

by Brogue » 08 Feb 2024 12:51

Nanny Sarr is bottom of the league in Qatar.


Halilović Is playing for Fortuna Sittard In the Dutch prem and doing well

Tom Dele-Bashiru Has played 22 games for Watford this season

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Re: Ex Players

by Snowflake Royal » 08 Feb 2024 13:01

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Bit late to the party with this one but it’s really noticeable how many players have struggled since leaving us over the course of the past couple of seasons

Talking about the likes of Laurent, Rinomhota, Meite, Ince, Hendrick and Fornah (doesn’t even make the bench for a L1 side!). Moore and Drinkwater never found clubs (can add Ejaria although he is a recent one). Lumley hasn’t played a minute of league football. Joao and Puscas haven’t kicked on. Swift has been largely underwhelming for West Brom although alongside Dele-Bashiru, probably the best of a bad bunch. Imagine we can add McIntyre to this list if he carries on his trend of not being able to play more than 3 games without pulling up.

Don’t blame any player for wanting out given the situation we find ourselves in. But just a thought that perhaps the grass isn’t always greener


also goes to show that they were all pretty shit and the reason we've been shit for years isn't just manager related, its that the players were never really good enough. But for some reason the players never really got the grilling they deserved, and got off lightly imo. Always pointing the finger at the managers yes they have been pretty shit too, but we simply had too many journey men who were not interested or showed any passion to be here.


It is a bit weird though - some of those like Ince and Laurent were generally good for us. I mean we can say they were shit and the managers were shit but they were good enough to keep us up or be in teams close to the play offs under Pauno

Didn’t realise Fornah wasn’t playing. Had noticed Meite’s Cardiff record is appalling (1 goal 0 assists in 25+ games), Ince not playing etc

Think Laurent and Swift have had good and bad spells - similar to what they had here.

Has there actually been any successes of who have left us in the last 2-3 years bar the mighty Olise and Osho?

I think it shows just how much of succeeding is about being in the right place at the right time.

There's no doubt that Meite, Joao, Laurent, Swift, Rinomhota and Moore etc were good players who performed well for a sustained period with us.

Yes, they all had limitations. Yes, none of them have really gone on and succeeded elsewhere. Although Joao hit his peak with us, and Meite had a career threatening injury.

Laurent and Rino were good but had clear limitations in their strengths and weaknesses. Swift was always a bit up and had career threatening injury.

We've also seen plenty of good players fail at Reading for various reasons despite doing well before and/or after.

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Re: Ex Players

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 09 Feb 2024 12:02

It seems to be most of the successful players are the one's who have come through our academy generally speaking. OIise and Osho both playing in the PL, Olise the obvious standout, but even some of those are now good/established Championship players. Stacey has played in the PL, Championship probably his level, Dickie and Cooper are established Championship players who were once touted for the PL, Holmes will be in the PL/Champ with Luton (or a loan elsewhere) next season I'd imagine etc. Can add your Fosu's and Hyam's to this list as well and so on.

Not the case for all though, Rino hasn't gone anywhere significant and seems to be going backwards and obviously a lot of others have been released and not made it back.

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Re: Ex Players

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Feb 2024 12:48

YorkshireRoyal99 It seems to be most of the successful players are the one's who have come through our academy generally speaking. OIise and Osho both playing in the PL, Olise the obvious standout, but even some of those are now good/established Championship players. Stacey has played in the PL, Championship probably his level, Dickie and Cooper are established Championship players who were once touted for the PL, Holmes will be in the PL/Champ with Luton (or a loan elsewhere) next season I'd imagine etc. Can add your Fosu's and Hyam's to this list as well and so on.

Not the case for all though, Rino hasn't gone anywhere significant and seems to be going backwards and obviously a lot of others have been released and not made it back.

Which shows how dreadful our recruitment has been, and how much better off we'd have been if we saved in fees and wages and gave Academy players more pitch time.

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