Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by Orion1871 » 27 Feb 2024 17:23

WestYorksRoyal I'm not going to quote it, but are there any mods on here who can do anything about that disgusting racist post? And can people please remember the appalling English owners the likes of Bolton, Bury, Southend, Scunthorpe and Derby have had?


There have been multiple racists on here for years, including one who had a swastika as an avatar, openly spouting their bile. Nothing has been done about them, and that was when there were mods around, so nothing will be done about that post either.

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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by Snowflake Royal » 27 Feb 2024 17:54

OLLIE KEARNS My immediate reaction to the EFL statement was that they have set RFC up to go bust the day after the season ends so as not to mess up their precious competition ! All newly threatened fines to the owner rack up as of April 2 assuming he doesn’t pay anything by Mar 18. At that point they bar him and give him 28 days (April 30) to sell the club. If he doesn’t sell then Reading are expelled from the EFL.
Hopefully someone can tell me I’m reading it wrong ??

Basically what I've been predicting for 4 months.

But what else are they going to do?

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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by Snowflake Royal » 27 Feb 2024 18:19

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A frankly depressing read.

EFL wanted 4 points off now - commission decided on 2 now, 2 suspended in the hopes it will force Dai/the club to pay on time.

Noted that we have been late with tax again but that will not form part of the decision or be a trigger for the 2 points.

The suspension will kick in if the club are late, for any reason, on any payment to a creditor. No ifs, no buts. If payment is due Monday and we pay Tuesday, points gone.

Commission states we have an unfair sporting advantage as we are living beyond our means - this is entirely accurate but true of 90% of clubs - they just have owners who pay the bills.

Dai continues to refuse to give evidence that he can't get enough money to the club and little to no evidence he is doing much of anything to sell.

EFL want him suspended but the commission refused as the EFL were unable to give any clarification as to what would happen if he refused to sell - commission refused to put the club in that position.

So in short - if Dai doesn't sell, EFL will keep looking to get points deducted for any breach and push for Dai to be suspended until we are a twitching corpse of a club.

Disappointing.

I think the only slice of hope we have is if the IC put a timer on a sale. And they refuse to do so, which means we limp on in agony, rather than get a bolt through our head or some miraculous surgery.

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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by Loafer » 27 Feb 2024 18:37

Gunny Fishcake So with the Sword of two suspended points Damocles hanging over our heads , that disgusting corrupt slit eyed c*nt sits in his palace probably laughing his socks off at our suffering, hope he gets swine flu with a dose of covid as well for good measure

Slit eyed

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Imagine being racist in 2024

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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by leon » 27 Feb 2024 18:41

Orion1871
WestYorksRoyal I'm not going to quote it, but are there any mods on here who can do anything about that disgusting racist post? And can people please remember the appalling English owners the likes of Bolton, Bury, Southend, Scunthorpe and Derby have had?


There have been multiple racists on here for years, including one who had a swastika as an avatar, openly spouting their bile. Nothing has been done about them, and that was when there were mods around, so nothing will be done about that post either.


There was the Scandinavia White Supremacist who I got grief from others for calling anders breivik


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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by Reading4eva » 27 Feb 2024 18:52

Loafer
Gunny Fishcake So with the Sword of two suspended points Damocles hanging over our heads , that disgusting corrupt slit eyed c*nt sits in his palace probably laughing his socks off at our suffering, hope he gets swine flu with a dose of covid as well for good measure

Slit eyed

:| :| :| :| :| :|


Imagine being racist in 2024

Thick oxf*rd


:| Whoops I quoted it. I can't edit either. Apologies I didn't pay enough attention when I did quote.

No room for that in football

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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by windermereROYAL » 27 Feb 2024 18:59

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Loafer
Gunny Fishcake So with the Sword of two suspended points Damocles hanging over our heads , that disgusting corrupt *****(***** sits in his palace probably laughing his socks off at our suffering, hope he gets swine flu with a dose of covid as well for good measure

Slit eyed

:| :| :| :| :| :|


Imagine being racist in 2024

Thick oxf*rd


:| Whoops I quoted it. I can't edit either. Apologies I didn't pay enough attention when I did quote.

No room for that in football


Of course you can edit it, are you 12?

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by Loafer » 27 Feb 2024 19:00

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Loafer
Gunny Fishcake So with the Sword of two suspended points Damocles hanging over our heads , that disgusting corrupt slit eyed c*nt sits in his palace probably laughing his socks off at our suffering, hope he gets swine flu with a dose of covid as well for good measure

Slit eyed

:| :| :| :| :| :|


Imagine being racist in 2024

Thick oxf*rd


:| Whoops I quoted it. I can't edit either. Apologies I didn't pay enough attention when I did quote.

No room for that in football


Not just football, racism in all forms is disgusting and for low lifes

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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by From Despair To Where? » 27 Feb 2024 19:01

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WestYorksRoyal I'm not going to quote it, but are there any mods on here who can do anything about that disgusting racist post? And can people please remember the appalling English owners the likes of Bolton, Bury, Southend, Scunthorpe and Derby have had?


There have been multiple racists on here for years, including one who had a swastika as an avatar, openly spouting their bile. Nothing has been done about them, and that was when there were mods around, so nothing will be done about that post either.


There was the Scandinavia White Supremacist who I got grief from others for calling anders breivik


He was an absolute loon. Calling him Anders Breivik was quite restrained.


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by St Pauli » 27 Feb 2024 19:17

From Despair To Where?
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There have been multiple racists on here for years, including one who had a swastika as an avatar, openly spouting their bile. Nothing has been done about them, and that was when there were mods around, so nothing will be done about that post either.


There was the Scandinavia White Supremacist who I got grief from others for calling anders breivik


He was an absolute loon. Calling him Anders Breivik was quite restrained.


Schards?

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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by From Despair To Where? » 27 Feb 2024 19:21

Schards is perfectly normal in comparison.

Can't for the life of me remember his username.

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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by Fezza » 27 Feb 2024 19:50

WestYorksRoyal I'm not going to quote it, but are there any mods on here who can do anything about that disgusting racist post? And can people please remember the appalling English owners the likes of Bolton, Bury, Southend, Scunthorpe and Derby have had?



https://www.stophateuk.org/about-hate-c ... line-hate/

Option 3

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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by leon » 27 Feb 2024 20:21

From Despair To Where? Schards is perfectly normal in comparison.

Can't for the life of me remember his username.


Ideal?


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by From Despair To Where? » 27 Feb 2024 20:55

That's the one.

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by leon » 28 Feb 2024 08:49

From Despair To Where? That's the one.


I miss that zany White Supremacist loon.

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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by Mid Sussex Royal » 28 Feb 2024 13:21

So, on potential further points deductions and when they could be levied:

1. We are a day late on tax or football creditor, suspended 2 points deduction is levied, anytime between now and the end of June.
2. Wages are late, say tomorrow when next due. Given players are an expense and not a creditor this would I believe create a new offence which given usual EFL deadline of around late March for points deductions on new offences would run into next season as they'd need to go back to the independent committee.
3. We invade the pitch and cause another abandonment, 4 points off straightaway.

Anyone please correct if wrong.

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by Stranded » 28 Feb 2024 13:27

Mid Sussex Royal So, on potential further points deductions and when they could be levied:

1. We are a day late on tax or football creditor, suspended 2 points deduction is levied, anytime between now and the end of June.
2. Wages are late, say tomorrow when next due. Given players are an expense and not a creditor this would I believe create a new offence which given usual EFL deadline of around late March for points deductions on new offences would run into next season as they'd need to go back to the independent committee.
3. We invade the pitch and cause another abandonment, 4 points off straightaway.

Anyone please correct if wrong.


It's not 100% clear that it is up to the end of June, it probably is but not clear.

Wages - any missed will pretty much gurantee 4 pts off as well any invasion leading to an abandonment. so those are spot on.

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by Sutekh » 28 Feb 2024 18:40

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Mid Sussex Royal So, on potential further points deductions and when they could be levied:

1. We are a day late on tax or football creditor, suspended 2 points deduction is levied, anytime between now and the end of June.
2. Wages are late, say tomorrow when next due. Given players are an expense and not a creditor this would I believe create a new offence which given usual EFL deadline of around late March for points deductions on new offences would run into next season as they'd need to go back to the independent committee.
3. We invade the pitch and cause another abandonment, 4 points off straightaway.

Anyone please correct if wrong.


It's not 100% clear that it is up to the end of June, it probably is but not clear.

Wages - any missed will pretty much gurantee 4 pts off as well any invasion leading to an abandonment. so those are spot on.


Hopefully the pittances received for Holmes and Abbey will be able to offset any shortfalls.

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by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 29 Feb 2024 09:20

Sutekh Hopefully the pittances received for Holmes and Abbey will be able to offset any shortfalls.


If what Howe said about the monthly losses is anywhere near true, I suspect most of that is gone already.

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Re: Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

by windermereROYAL » 29 Feb 2024 09:26

Hearing that that cunt Simon Jordan said on talk sport yesterday that paying our tax late gave us a sporting advantage even though we haven`t got a pot to piss in at the moment.
Not the first time he`s had a dig at us, seems to have some kind of grievance against us for the reason.

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