Embargos, HMRC Payment defaults, non payment of wages, the usual under Dai Wrongge

[WestYorksRoyal]

Is there a cut-off point for points deductions?

The season ends on the 27th of April. Could there be a situation where we stay up by a point, then get deducted points because we missed a payment at the end of April, or May even?

I think (but not 100% certain) it's the same as the old transfer deadline day (and still the EFL deadline for loan moves) - fourth Thursday in March.

That would apply for new charges, but I'm not sure about triggering a suspended penalty. I think if we survived by 1 point and then failed to pay HMRC in May, that would relegate us.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

Is there a cut-off point for points deductions?

The season ends on the 27th of April. Could there be a situation where we stay up by a point, then get deducted points because we missed a payment at the end of April, or May even?

I think (but not 100% certain) it's the same as the old transfer deadline day (and still the EFL deadline for loan moves) - fourth Thursday in March.

THE EFL paper says end of 2023/24 season, which is 30th June...so I guess we have to be on time until then.

[windermereROYAL]

I would never wish death on anyone except Putin, but fuck me this guy is pushing the limits.

[WestYorksRoyal]

I'm not going to quote it, but are there any mods on here who can do anything about that disgusting racist post? And can people please remember the appalling English owners the likes of Bolton, Bury, Southend, Scunthorpe and Derby have had?

[Reading4eva]

So with the Sword of two suspended points Damocles hanging over our heads , that disgusting corrupt slit eyed c*nt sits in his palace probably laughing his socks off at our suffering, hope he gets swine flu with a dose of covid as well for good measure

Maxwell's boat. Has anyone got it?

He can borrow it for free.

As long as where he's taking it is crocodile infested.

[tmesis]

Is there a cut-off point for points deductions?

The season ends on the 27th of April. Could there be a situation where we stay up by a point, then get deducted points because we missed a payment at the end of April, or May even?

I think (but not 100% certain) it's the same as the old transfer deadline day (and still the EFL deadline for loan moves) - fourth Thursday in March.

THE EFL paper says end of 2023/24 season, which is 30th June...so I guess we have to be on time until then.

That would be after the fixtures are published, so that would be a right mess.

Any club that goes down would be having to make decisions about who to release/retain/buy, which would be mucked up by a very late reprieve.

You do also have to wonder how we will be able to pay wages at all in May, June and~July with no income coming in. I guess they could use money from 24/25 season tickets, but anyone buying one with Dai in charge would be taking a huge gamble.

Unless a sale looks imminent at that stage, I think that would be when the plug gets pulled by Dai, unless we limp on until August and get kicked out.

[Orion1871]

I'm not going to quote it, but are there any mods on here who can do anything about that disgusting racist post? And can people please remember the appalling English owners the likes of Bolton, Bury, Southend, Scunthorpe and Derby have had?

There have been multiple racists on here for years, including one who had a swastika as an avatar, openly spouting their bile. Nothing has been done about them, and that was when there were mods around, so nothing will be done about that post either.

[Snowflake Royal]

My immediate reaction to the EFL statement was that they have set RFC up to go bust the day after the season ends so as not to mess up their precious competition ! All newly threatened fines to the owner rack up as of April 2 assuming he doesn’t pay anything by Mar 18. At that point they bar him and give him 28 days (April 30) to sell the club. If he doesn’t sell then Reading are expelled from the EFL.
Hopefully someone can tell me I’m reading it wrong ??

Basically what I've been predicting for 4 months.

But what else are they going to do?

[Snowflake Royal]

Link to the documentation

https://www.efl.com/governance/judgments-and-decisions/

A frankly depressing read.

EFL wanted 4 points off now - commission decided on 2 now, 2 suspended in the hopes it will force Dai/the club to pay on time.

Noted that we have been late with tax again but that will not form part of the decision or be a trigger for the 2 points.

The suspension will kick in if the club are late, for any reason, on any payment to a creditor. No ifs, no buts. If payment is due Monday and we pay Tuesday, points gone.

Commission states we have an unfair sporting advantage as we are living beyond our means - this is entirely accurate but true of 90% of clubs - they just have owners who pay the bills.

Dai continues to refuse to give evidence that he can't get enough money to the club and little to no evidence he is doing much of anything to sell.

EFL want him suspended but the commission refused as the EFL were unable to give any clarification as to what would happen if he refused to sell - commission refused to put the club in that position.

So in short - if Dai doesn't sell, EFL will keep looking to get points deducted for any breach and push for Dai to be suspended until we are a twitching corpse of a club.

Disappointing.

I think the only slice of hope we have is if the IC put a timer on a sale. And they refuse to do so, which means we limp on in agony, rather than get a bolt through our head or some miraculous surgery.

[Loafer]

So with the Sword of two suspended points Damocles hanging over our heads , that disgusting corrupt slit eyed c*nt sits in his palace probably laughing his socks off at our suffering, hope he gets swine flu with a dose of covid as well for good measure

Slit eyed




Imagine being racist in 2024

Thick oxf*rd

[leon]

I'm not going to quote it, but are there any mods on here who can do anything about that disgusting racist post? And can people please remember the appalling English owners the likes of Bolton, Bury, Southend, Scunthorpe and Derby have had?

There have been multiple racists on here for years, including one who had a swastika as an avatar, openly spouting their bile. Nothing has been done about them, and that was when there were mods around, so nothing will be done about that post either.

There was the Scandinavia White Supremacist who I got grief from others for calling anders breivik

[Reading4eva]

So with the Sword of two suspended points Damocles hanging over our heads , that disgusting corrupt slit eyed c*nt sits in his palace probably laughing his socks off at our suffering, hope he gets swine flu with a dose of covid as well for good measure

Slit eyed




Imagine being racist in 2024

Thick oxf*rd

Whoops I quoted it. I can't edit either. Apologies I didn't pay enough attention when I did quote.

No room for that in football

[windermereROYAL]

So with the Sword of two suspended points Damocles hanging over our heads , that disgusting corrupt *****(***** sits in his palace probably laughing his socks off at our suffering, hope he gets swine flu with a dose of covid as well for good measure

Slit eyed




Imagine being racist in 2024

Thick oxf*rd

Whoops I quoted it. I can't edit either. Apologies I didn't pay enough attention when I did quote.

No room for that in football

Of course you can edit it, are you 12?

[Loafer]

So with the Sword of two suspended points Damocles hanging over our heads , that disgusting corrupt slit eyed c*nt sits in his palace probably laughing his socks off at our suffering, hope he gets swine flu with a dose of covid as well for good measure

Slit eyed




Imagine being racist in 2024

Thick oxf*rd

Whoops I quoted it. I can't edit either. Apologies I didn't pay enough attention when I did quote.

No room for that in football

Not just football, racism in all forms is disgusting and for low lifes

[From Despair To Where?]

I'm not going to quote it, but are there any mods on here who can do anything about that disgusting racist post? And can people please remember the appalling English owners the likes of Bolton, Bury, Southend, Scunthorpe and Derby have had?

There have been multiple racists on here for years, including one who had a swastika as an avatar, openly spouting their bile. Nothing has been done about them, and that was when there were mods around, so nothing will be done about that post either.

There was the Scandinavia White Supremacist who I got grief from others for calling anders breivik

He was an absolute loon. Calling him Anders Breivik was quite restrained.

[St Pauli]

There have been multiple racists on here for years, including one who had a swastika as an avatar, openly spouting their bile. Nothing has been done about them, and that was when there were mods around, so nothing will be done about that post either.

There was the Scandinavia White Supremacist who I got grief from others for calling anders breivik

He was an absolute loon. Calling him Anders Breivik was quite restrained.

Schards?

[From Despair To Where?]

Schards is perfectly normal in comparison.

Can't for the life of me remember his username.

[Fezza]

I'm not going to quote it, but are there any mods on here who can do anything about that disgusting racist post? And can people please remember the appalling English owners the likes of Bolton, Bury, Southend, Scunthorpe and Derby have had?

https://www.stophateuk.org/about-hate-c ... line-hate/

Option 3

[leon]

Schards is perfectly normal in comparison.

Can't for the life of me remember his username.

Ideal?

[From Despair To Where?]

That's the one.