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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Esteban » 14 Mar 2024 13:41

WestYorksRoyal I get we're taking value out of the club, but does that make a sale harder? In the summer, we basically had operations of a top end Championship club in L1. You'd need to convince an owner to pay a high purchase price and underwrite large losses in the hope of promotion.

Now we are a L1 in size and name, presumably with a low price to match. A deal just became in reach for a lot more parties. And they won't be asset strippers as there's none left to strip.


Take your point, but still a lot of risk involved though. No training facilities, potentially no stadium, (Dai could still hold on to that and charge rent), an academy that only has the players nobody else wants and a club still very much on the EFL's radar.

Certainly admire your optimism, let's hope there's still some interested parties.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 14 Mar 2024 13:45

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WestYorksRoyal I get we're taking value out of the club, but does that make a sale harder? In the summer, we basically had operations of a top end Championship club in L1. You'd need to convince an owner to pay a high purchase price and underwrite large losses in the hope of promotion.

Now we are a L1 in size and name, presumably with a low price to match. A deal just became in reach for a lot more parties. And they won't be asset strippers as there's none left to strip.


Take your point, but still a lot of risk involved though. No training facilities, potentially no stadium, (Dai could still hold on to that and charge rent), an academy that only has the players nobody else wants and a club still very much on the EFL's radar.

Certainly admire your optimism, let's hope there's still some interested parties.

I fear the academy comes next. Our youngsters will be looking for another club or giving up on their career. We're so important for young footballers in the area, after us you're looking at London clubs or Southampton where competition is fierce. But we can't maintain it with a shit, temporary training ground.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by blythspartan » 14 Mar 2024 13:51

Sadly, it make's the remainder of the season pointless. Whether we manage to stay up or we get relegated it’s all oxf*rd immaterial. I shall go on Saturday with a couple of mates, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a pitch invasion tbh. I am half expecting to hear that Wycombe also wants to buy the stadium. FFS how’s it been allowed to get to this.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by 72 bus » 14 Mar 2024 14:09

blythspartan Sadly, it make's the remainder of the season pointless. Whether we manage to stay up or we get relegated it’s all oxf*rd immaterial. I shall go on Saturday with a couple of mates, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a pitch invasion tbh. I am half expecting to hear that Wycombe also wants to buy the stadium. FFS how’s it been allowed to get to this.


Why is the remainder of the season pointless ?

We managed to get promoted from this division whilst still training at Sonning Hockey and Cricket club.
We did ok then, we did even better after moving to Hogwood and it's all gone tits up since moving to Bearwood.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Winston Biscuit » 14 Mar 2024 14:14

Being in L1 for next season would make us more interesting to buy than if we were in L2


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 14 Mar 2024 14:27

Even if we somehow get out of this with a club, we all need to accept L1/L2 is our level now. Will take ages to undo this damage.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Royals and Racers » 14 Mar 2024 14:28

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blythspartan Sadly, it make's the remainder of the season pointless. Whether we manage to stay up or we get relegated it’s all oxf*rd immaterial. I shall go on Saturday with a couple of mates, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a pitch invasion tbh. I am half expecting to hear that Wycombe also wants to buy the stadium. FFS how’s it been allowed to get to this.


Why is the remainder of the season pointless ?

We managed to get promoted from this division whilst still training at Sonning Hockey and Cricket club.
We did ok then, we did even better after moving to Hogwood and it's all gone tits up since moving to Bearwood.

We used Bradfield College for a while as well.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by 72 bus » 14 Mar 2024 14:38

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blythspartan Sadly, it make's the remainder of the season pointless. Whether we manage to stay up or we get relegated it’s all oxf*rd immaterial. I shall go on Saturday with a couple of mates, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a pitch invasion tbh. I am half expecting to hear that Wycombe also wants to buy the stadium. FFS how’s it been allowed to get to this.


Why is the remainder of the season pointless ?

We managed to get promoted from this division whilst still training at Sonning Hockey and Cricket club.
We did ok then, we did even better after moving to Hogwood and it's all gone tits up since moving to Bearwood.

We used Bradfield College for a while as well.


Yes we used Bradfield College during the summer.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Pepe the Horseman » 14 Mar 2024 14:42

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genome From the chap who seems to randomly get stuff spot on

@HuangKad
Hi #readingfc fans. I am told someone close to dai put an offer to Nigel howe last month for everything ,training ground, stadium and club. Nigel did not pass this offer to dai. pang told Nigel that dai’s plans had changed and the focus was getting rid of the training ground only


Love to know who is behind that account. Over the years they have produced statements which have been correct or very close too. They alluded to this news i noticed 4 days ago.


Definitely seem to be someone who knows someone, something. Only ever seem to get bad news right, so probably Pang.

With the above though, if the offer was from someone "close to Dai", then why did he not just go straight to the person they are close to?

It's a nobber.


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Orion1871 » 14 Mar 2024 14:45

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blythspartan Sadly, it make's the remainder of the season pointless. Whether we manage to stay up or we get relegated it’s all oxf*rd immaterial. I shall go on Saturday with a couple of mates, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a pitch invasion tbh. I am half expecting to hear that Wycombe also wants to buy the stadium. FFS how’s it been allowed to get to this.


Why is the remainder of the season pointless ?

We managed to get promoted from this division whilst still training at Sonning Hockey and Cricket club.
We did ok then, we did even better after moving to Hogwood and it's all gone tits up since moving to Bearwood.


How many years ago was that? Football has changed and RFC have also changed. Somewhere like that is no good for any club anymore, let alone one the size of RFC.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by blythspartan » 14 Mar 2024 14:47

72 bus
blythspartan Sadly, it make's the remainder of the season pointless. Whether we manage to stay up or we get relegated it’s all oxf*rd immaterial. I shall go on Saturday with a couple of mates, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a pitch invasion tbh. I am half expecting to hear that Wycombe also wants to buy the stadium. FFS how’s it been allowed to get to this.


Why is the remainder of the season pointless ?

We managed to get promoted from this division whilst still training at Sonning Hockey and Cricket club.
We did ok then, we did even better after moving to Hogwood and it's all gone tits up since moving to Bearwood.


I see the sell of the training ground as the first step towards liquidation. I don’t trust Dai to use any of the proceeds to help the club. I hope I am wrong, but he has a track record of killing clubs.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 14 Mar 2024 14:49

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blythspartan Sadly, it make's the remainder of the season pointless. Whether we manage to stay up or we get relegated it’s all oxf*rd immaterial. I shall go on Saturday with a couple of mates, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a pitch invasion tbh. I am half expecting to hear that Wycombe also wants to buy the stadium. FFS how’s it been allowed to get to this.


Why is the remainder of the season pointless ?

We managed to get promoted from this division whilst still training at Sonning Hockey and Cricket club.
We did ok then, we did even better after moving to Hogwood and it's all gone tits up since moving to Bearwood.


How many years ago was that? Football has changed and RFC have also changed. Somewhere like that is no good for any club anymore, let alone one the size of RFC.


:roll: we're Reading ffs not ManU how does any tinpot little club get promoted? Brighton, Boremuff and Brentford did it without any real youth policy and I don't suppose Luton have a Bearwood either!

However I do note that Reading did not have cat 1 Academy status in every season that the club has been relegated.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 14 Mar 2024 14:53

Do the EFL have to approve the sale? A chance to be heroes for once?


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Mid Sussex Royal » 14 Mar 2024 14:55

Jamie Hodder reporting on Twitter that exclusivity for a full sale was very close and now off the table, and the cut price deal has been agreed on basis money goes to Dai, not the club.

He's usually been proved to be accurate but not sure how the money going to Dai works, is that legally possible?

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 14 Mar 2024 15:02

Mid Sussex Royal Jamie Hodder reporting on Twitter that exclusivity for a full sale was very close and now off the table, and the cut price deal has been agreed on basis money goes to Dai, not the club.

He's usually been proved to be accurate but not sure how the money going to Dai works, is that legally possible?


And wouldn't the FL have something to say about that given the amount of fines he's ignored if nothing else.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Greatwesternline » 14 Mar 2024 15:06

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Mid Sussex Royal Jamie Hodder reporting on Twitter that exclusivity for a full sale was very close and now off the table, and the cut price deal has been agreed on basis money goes to Dai, not the club.

He's usually been proved to be accurate but not sure how the money going to Dai works, is that legally possible?


And wouldn't the FL have something to say about that given the amount of fines he's ignored if nothing else.


You think the EFL can insert themselves between a transaction between two business people selling each other buildings?

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 14 Mar 2024 15:09

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Mid Sussex Royal Jamie Hodder reporting on Twitter that exclusivity for a full sale was very close and now off the table, and the cut price deal has been agreed on basis money goes to Dai, not the club.

He's usually been proved to be accurate but not sure how the money going to Dai works, is that legally possible?


And wouldn't the FL have something to say about that given the amount of fines he's ignored if nothing else.


You think the EFL can insert themselves between a transaction between two business people selling each other buildings?


If one of the parties is in legal debt to the FL then I would presume they should have some recourse if a said party then makes money out of what is the sale of a club asset. And isn't Bearwood owned by the club still, not in some private holding company like the ground (which will no doubt be sold next month).

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Greatwesternline » 14 Mar 2024 15:17

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And wouldn't the FL have something to say about that given the amount of fines he's ignored if nothing else.


You think the EFL can insert themselves between a transaction between two business people selling each other buildings?


If one of the parties is in legal debt to the FL then I would presume they should have some recourse if a said party then makes money out of what is the sale of a club asset. And isn't Bearwood owned by the club still, not in some private holding company like the ground (which will no doubt be sold next month).


That's not how life works. If i owe you money, but i sell my car to someone else, you don't have a right to my money from the car sale.

Also Dai doesnt "owe" money to the EFL. They've fined him. But that isnt a legal debt. It's a penalty, which has no legal status.

Penalty clauses aren't enforceable. The EFL isn't a statutory body, its fines have no basis in law. It's just a punishment for being in breach of a competition rule.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by The Royal Forester » 14 Mar 2024 15:18

Mid Sussex Royal Jamie Hodder reporting on Twitter that exclusivity for a full sale was very close and now off the table, and the cut price deal has been agreed on basis money goes to Dai, not the club.

He's usually been proved to be accurate but not sure how the money going to Dai works, is that legally possible?

If the club is in debt to Dai, can he request/demand some of that debt (say £20 million or so) be repaid? It's possible, but I have no idea, if he can.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 14 Mar 2024 15:23

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You think the EFL can insert themselves between a transaction between two business people selling each other buildings?


If one of the parties is in legal debt to the FL then I would presume they should have some recourse if a said party then makes money out of what is the sale of a club asset. And isn't Bearwood owned by the club still, not in some private holding company like the ground (which will no doubt be sold next month).


That's not how life works. If i owe you money, but i sell my car to someone else, you don't have a right to my money from the car sale.

Also Dai doesnt "owe" money to the EFL. They've fined him. But that isnt a legal debt. It's a penalty, which has no legal status.

Penalty clauses aren't enforceable. The EFL isn't a statutory body, its fines have no basis in law. It's just a punishment for being in breach of a competition rule.


Rather makes the whole ffp thing utterly ****** pointless then if all the FL can do is take points away rather than actually hurt the planks that cause it all in the first place.

Wonder how much the PL lobbyists will manage to get the useless politicians to water down any proposed financial regulator by?

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