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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 26 Mar 2024 16:18

pea Would be very happy if its the Wilf bros

FWIW the NFL players association do a survey of their players and release a 'score card' for every team on a range of factors including ownership. The Wilfs were 2nd out of 32 teams, with the Vikings players rating them 9.7/10 (A+ grade) this year.

Reports are of a "consortium", so they don't match the description.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Stranded » 26 Mar 2024 16:27

Pepe the Horseman

Charlton fans not keen on Rifkind, but one of the backers is a Billionaire.


Also not US based but Swiss based but the reports of an NA group could be wrong unless there are NA investors.

We know they "walked away" so wouldn't be a surprise if they have come back in if the training ground is still a part of the deal - with Rifkind involved the EFL checks should be straight forward enough.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Winston Biscuit » 26 Mar 2024 16:27

Should we begin practicing our whooping and hollering now?

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by yuomi » 26 Mar 2024 16:42

Chiron aren't American from what little I can gather/understand about how they're structured.

Which would leave Sports.Com, the Wilfs, or Red Bird Cap coming back as American interest that we know of/have heard about.

Minnesota Vikings play in purple, we've got the purple turtle third shirt, so clearly it's the Wilfs*.

*I am not ITK but this is more logical than what a lot of accounts on twatter are coming out with right now.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Brogue » 26 Mar 2024 17:20

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by SouthDownsRoyal » 26 Mar 2024 17:22

Brogue redwood


John?

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Brogue » 26 Mar 2024 17:43

Yeah he was involved in the training ground fiasco wasn’t he

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Avon Royal » 26 Mar 2024 17:48

If it was the Wilf brothers then we could have won the owners jackpot.

They’ve been transformational for the Vikings, who now have the best facilities, infrastructure and stadium in the NFL.

Not going to get excited though until something confirmed.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by royal67 » 26 Mar 2024 18:11

Winston Biscuit Should we begin practicing our whooping and hollering now?


Or maybe our hopes and prayers....??


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by windermereROYAL » 26 Mar 2024 18:33

Hopefully we can consign these three stickies to history at the middle/end of May.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Franchise FC » 26 Mar 2024 19:41

windermereROYAL Hopefully we can consign these three stickies to history at the middle/end of May.

You really should have put a year qualifier on that statement :wink:

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 27 Mar 2024 09:33

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WestYorksRoyal The big question is who with. I expect a journo will report in the next few days.


I expect so, there will be no official confirmation as the EFL rules don't allow it but I would imagine one of the local journos will get a name in the neat future.

Wording suggest the process could take up to 2 monts - so end of May, which is fine, but be amazing if this can get closed out by the last home game.

There is 4 weeks until the Blackpool game. Highly unlikely to be completed by then. Perhaps contracts exchanged by then? That's the point where Dai can't back out and we can celebrate. Southend exchanged contracts before Christmas and it still hasn't completed, but that is due to their council moving at glacial pace to update planning permissions. It only took WBA about 2 weeks between exchange and completion.

If not this season, first game next season could be a big occasion. Oxford at home on the opening day? Or, given recent developments, Wycombe?

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by BarryWhiteRFC » 27 Mar 2024 09:46

Avon Royal If it was the Wilf brothers then we could have won the owners jackpot.

They’ve been transformational for the Vikings, who now have the best facilities, infrastructure and stadium in the NFL.

Not going to get excited though until something confirmed.

Would love to see football run more like the NFL. Now I know there is only 32 teams so not as much competition for fans etc, but NFL franchises are rarely run at a loss. If we could get the same kind of branding and marketing awareness into football, especially in the catchment area that Reading has, that the NFL has, it could help swell the fanbase, which, I think, would only be a good thing. I, for one, would certainly welcome the new owners. As you say, the Vikings are a very well run franchise. Always had a soft spot for them since I was in a booth next to most of the team back in 2015 in a Las Vegas nightclub (Bank in the Bellagio (very much a "look at me" post :roll: )).


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Greatwesternline » 27 Mar 2024 09:56

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Avon Royal If it was the Wilf brothers then we could have won the owners jackpot.

They’ve been transformational for the Vikings, who now have the best facilities, infrastructure and stadium in the NFL.

Not going to get excited though until something confirmed.

Would love to see football run more like the NFL. Now I know there is only 32 teams so not as much competition for fans etc, but NFL franchises are rarely run at a loss. If we could get the same kind of branding and marketing awareness into football, especially in the catchment area that Reading has, that the NFL has, it could help swell the fanbase, which, I think, would only be a good thing. I, for one, would certainly welcome the new owners. As you say, the Vikings are a very well run franchise. Always had a soft spot for them since I was in a booth next to most of the team back in 2015 in a Las Vegas nightclub (Bank in the Bellagio (very much a "look at me" post :roll: )).


And then the franchise packs up and leaves if a better offer comes along elsewhere?

It's a basket case.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Stranded » 27 Mar 2024 09:58

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Avon Royal If it was the Wilf brothers then we could have won the owners jackpot.

They’ve been transformational for the Vikings, who now have the best facilities, infrastructure and stadium in the NFL.

Not going to get excited though until something confirmed.

Would love to see football run more like the NFL. Now I know there is only 32 teams so not as much competition for fans etc, but NFL franchises are rarely run at a loss. If we could get the same kind of branding and marketing awareness into football, especially in the catchment area that Reading has, that the NFL has, it could help swell the fanbase, which, I think, would only be a good thing. I, for one, would certainly welcome the new owners. As you say, the Vikings are a very well run franchise. Always had a soft spot for them since I was in a booth next to most of the team back in 2015 in a Las Vegas nightclub (Bank in the Bellagio (very much a "look at me" post :roll: )).


And then the franchise packs up and leaves if a better offer comes along elsewhere?

It's a basket case.


Its not a basket case, its just a very different system. A lot can be learnt from the good bits re marketing etc without having to take on the franchise nature of the competition.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by rabidbee » 27 Mar 2024 10:04

I wonder how well minor league team manage, though. At least they never have to try to compete with recently demoted NFL teams still running with an NFL-size budget.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by BarryWhiteRFC » 27 Mar 2024 10:13

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BarryWhiteRFC Would love to see football run more like the NFL. Now I know there is only 32 teams so not as much competition for fans etc, but NFL franchises are rarely run at a loss. If we could get the same kind of branding and marketing awareness into football, especially in the catchment area that Reading has, that the NFL has, it could help swell the fanbase, which, I think, would only be a good thing. I, for one, would certainly welcome the new owners. As you say, the Vikings are a very well run franchise. Always had a soft spot for them since I was in a booth next to most of the team back in 2015 in a Las Vegas nightclub (Bank in the Bellagio (very much a "look at me" post :roll: )).


And then the franchise packs up and leaves if a better offer comes along elsewhere?

It's a basket case.


Its not a basket case, its just a very different system. A lot can be learnt from the good bits re marketing etc without having to take on the franchise nature of the competition.

Exactly this, there is plenty good to be taken away from the running of NFL teams.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 27 Mar 2024 10:14

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BarryWhiteRFC Would love to see football run more like the NFL. Now I know there is only 32 teams so not as much competition for fans etc, but NFL franchises are rarely run at a loss. If we could get the same kind of branding and marketing awareness into football, especially in the catchment area that Reading has, that the NFL has, it could help swell the fanbase, which, I think, would only be a good thing. I, for one, would certainly welcome the new owners. As you say, the Vikings are a very well run franchise. Always had a soft spot for them since I was in a booth next to most of the team back in 2015 in a Las Vegas nightclub (Bank in the Bellagio (very much a "look at me" post :roll: )).


And then the franchise packs up and leaves if a better offer comes along elsewhere?

It's a basket case.


Its not a basket case, its just a very different system. A lot can be learnt from the good bits re marketing etc without having to take on the franchise nature of the competition.

The nature is fundamentally different and very hard to copy. There are rewards for success and risks associated with failure, but nothing close to those associated with promotion, relegation and European football qualification. The closest we came to learning from their game was the failer launch of the super league which was rightfully castigated.

One big reason we don't have a sensible financial model in this country is that it's fundamentally bloody hard. You don't want to discourage ambitious owners from investing and fans from dreaming of punching above their weight, you don't want a system that entrenches the dominance of those fortunate enough to be at the top of the tree right now. Even as a neutral, you want to see change in the PL. But things such as FFP, wage caps etc., will do exactly this.

Creating a system that prevents clubs getting into ruin without discouraging ambitions and investment is difficult, but not impossible. The politics will doesn't appear to exist in the game to find solutions that tread this line.

If we survive this, you could argue the end point of us in L1 is a very fair reflection of Dai's tenure and is part of the jeopardy that makes our pyramid so great. I think less sympathetic fans of other clubs would say this. But for much of this season the threat has now been relegation but extinction, which is the threat that no set of fans should have to face.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Ascotexgunner » 27 Mar 2024 13:35

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Avon Royal If it was the Wilf brothers then we could have won the owners jackpot.

They’ve been transformational for the Vikings, who now have the best facilities, infrastructure and stadium in the NFL.

Not going to get excited though until something confirmed.

Would love to see football run more like the NFL. Now I know there is only 32 teams so not as much competition for fans etc, but NFL franchises are rarely run at a loss. If we could get the same kind of branding and marketing awareness into football, especially in the catchment area that Reading has, that the NFL has, it could help swell the fanbase, which, I think, would only be a good thing. I, for one, would certainly welcome the new owners. As you say, the Vikings are a very well run franchise. Always had a soft spot for them since I was in a booth next to most of the team back in 2015 in a Las Vegas nightclub (Bank in the Bellagio (very much a "look at me" post :roll: )).


You mean a superleague....

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by tmesis » 27 Mar 2024 16:59

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Avon Royal If it was the Wilf brothers then we could have won the owners jackpot.

They’ve been transformational for the Vikings, who now have the best facilities, infrastructure and stadium in the NFL.

Not going to get excited though until something confirmed.

Would love to see football run more like the NFL. Now I know there is only 32 teams so not as much competition for fans etc, but NFL franchises are rarely run at a loss. If we could get the same kind of branding and marketing awareness into football, especially in the catchment area that Reading has, that the NFL has, it could help swell the fanbase, which, I think, would only be a good thing.

It's much easier to control costs when there's no rival league for players to sign for, and you can implement a salary cap at whatever level you like, to guarantee profit.

It also helps when you can them limit all clubs to a few major cities.

Had that European super league been set up, and they'd implemented a salary cap*, it would have been hugely successful. A couch potato fan's wet dream.

* of course there wouldn't have been a cap, as Real Madrid and Barcelona wanted a league that from the outset, would have given them a financial advantage over the rest.


Minor league sports over there are very different to teams outside the top division here. Particularly in baseball, club are basically farm teams that exist with the aid of their major league affiliate, for youth development. Mentally it's more like the distinction there used to be between league and 'non-league' in the past, as entirely separate entities.

Crowds, even at the best supported minor league clubs, are far lower than the worst supported major league ones.

It should also be pointed out that historically, the failure rate of minor league clubs in all US sports is horrific. The US adopted its closed shop franchise approach simply because so many clubs were joining the leagues and folding within a year or two. It wasn't about maximising revenue. It was about stopping the leagues looking like basket cases, with multiple clubs folding each year.

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