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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Royal Ginger » 06 Apr 2024 23:48

Yeah, Wilf is New Jersey based. The vikings seemingly have very little to do with the west coast.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Delboy » 07 Apr 2024 06:55

More than 15000 at the last 3 home games , no defeats in those games, great atmosphere, new owners should be able to see the potential. 18000 next season if we are a top 6 side .

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by Sutekh » 07 Apr 2024 07:44

Royal Ginger Yeah, Wilf is New Jersey based. The vikings seemingly have very little to do with the west coast.


The Minnesota Vikings is based in Minneapolis in Minnesota which is as good as halfway between east and west coast US (it's one of the states around the "great lakes" that borders Canada, being north of Illinois and Iowa as well as bordering the Dakotas). The Wilfs hail from Germany but emigrated to New Jersey in the 1950s.

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by Royal Ginger » 07 Apr 2024 07:49

Minneapolis/St Paul is an underrated city that often gets looked over as an airport hub.

Great for a bit of sports tourism, highly recommend.

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by PieEater » 07 Apr 2024 10:38

My diehard Charlton mate had never heard of Leo Rifkin, if he was a dodgy shyster who was involved during their protracted takeover I think he'd be more well known. So I'll take that as a positive.


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by Brogue » 07 Apr 2024 12:21

PieEater My diehard Charlton mate had never heard of Leo Rifkin, if he was a dodgy shyster who was involved during their protracted takeover I think he'd be more well known. So I'll take that as a positive.


I’m sure there are some die hard Reading fans who have never heard of Kia too….

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by Orion1871 » 07 Apr 2024 13:27

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PieEater My diehard Charlton mate had never heard of Leo Rifkin, if he was a dodgy shyster who was involved during their protracted takeover I think he'd be more well known. So I'll take that as a positive.


I’m sure there are some die hard Reading fans who have never heard of Kia too….


Who?

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by Sutekh » 07 Apr 2024 16:50

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PieEater My diehard Charlton mate had never heard of Leo Rifkin, if he was a dodgy shyster who was involved during their protracted takeover I think he'd be more well known. So I'll take that as a positive.


I’m sure there are some die hard Reading fans who have never heard of Kia too….


Who?



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by Ascotexgunner » 08 Apr 2024 19:06

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I’m sure there are some die hard Reading fans who have never heard of Kia too….


Who?




Take over by Rita Ora?


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by SouthDownsRoyal » 09 Apr 2024 09:55

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Who?




Take over by Rita Ora?


Lol

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by WestYorksRoyal » 09 Apr 2024 22:07

Right Chiron, we're staying up. Get the deal done. Contracts exchanged before the Blackpool game would make an amazing final day.

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by Owlish52 » 10 Apr 2024 00:09

As noted above, Zygi and Mark Wilf (brothers and co-owners of the Minnesota Vikings) are an East Coast family (New York/New Jersey and Florida) and would not be referred to as "West Coast investors". There is no shortage of "West Coast investors" over here, many of which have some degree of involvement in professional sports. I'm not sure many have pockets quite as deep as the Wilf brothers, but some certainly do and others might not be quite as well-off but are still substantial enough to easily fund an English football club without strain. I think the Vikings connection is some sort of mistake, but the '"West Coast" tie could be a red herring as well.

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by Forbury Lion » 10 Apr 2024 09:19

Owlish52 As noted above, Zygi and Mark Wilf (brothers and co-owners of the Minnesota Vikings) are an East Coast family (New York/New Jersey and Florida) and would not be referred to as "West Coast investors". There is no shortage of "West Coast investors" over here, many of which have some degree of involvement in professional sports. I'm not sure many have pockets quite as deep as the Wilf brothers, but some certainly do and others might not be quite as well-off but are still substantial enough to easily fund an English football club without strain. I think the Vikings connection is some sort of mistake, but the '"West Coast" tie could be a red herring as well.

West Coast were our sponsors once, just to confuse matters.


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by Sutekh » 10 Apr 2024 09:45

Owlish52 As noted above, Zygi and Mark Wilf (brothers and co-owners of the Minnesota Vikings) are an East Coast family (New York/New Jersey and Florida) and would not be referred to as "West Coast investors". There is no shortage of "West Coast investors" over here, many of which have some degree of involvement in professional sports. I'm not sure many have pockets quite as deep as the Wilf brothers, but some certainly do and others might not be quite as well-off but are still substantial enough to easily fund an English football club without strain. I think the Vikings connection is some sort of mistake, but the '"West Coast" tie could be a red herring as well.


And, of course, the media aren't exactly known for accuracy so lazy umbrella comments will be the norm.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 10 Apr 2024 11:24

If we do join the growing list of clubs with US investment, I do wonder where this is going in the long term. US sporting franchises make money, US businessmen like to make money. But very few people make money out of English football. Could we witness a moment where the penny drops and US investors try to exit? We've already been burned by the Chinese rush to invest and subsequent exit.

I do at least trust US investors to understand out culture and the importance of the club better.

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by bcubed » 10 Apr 2024 11:32

WestYorksRoyal If we do join the growing list of clubs with US investment, I do wonder where this is going in the long term. US sporting franchises make money, US businessmen like to make money. But very few people make money out of English football. Could we witness a moment where the penny drops and US investors try to exit? We've already been burned by the Chinese rush to invest and subsequent exit.

I do at least trust US investors to understand out culture and the importance of the club better.


I don't know if they're making any money buy at least Wrexhams investors seem to understand and appreciate the link amd impact to the community that football clubs have.

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by rabidbee » 10 Apr 2024 11:38

WestYorksRoyal If we do join the growing list of clubs with US investment, I do wonder where this is going in the long term. US sporting franchises make money, US businessmen like to make money. But very few people make money out of English football. Could we witness a moment where the penny drops and US investors try to exit? We've already been burned by the Chinese rush to invest and subsequent exit.

I do at least trust US investors to understand out culture and the importance of the club better.

Where this has to go is that football has to be forced to be more sustainable, forced to be less reliant on huge injections of capital from outside football, given the amount of money within the game.

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by WestYorksRoyal » 10 Apr 2024 11:44

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WestYorksRoyal If we do join the growing list of clubs with US investment, I do wonder where this is going in the long term. US sporting franchises make money, US businessmen like to make money. But very few people make money out of English football. Could we witness a moment where the penny drops and US investors try to exit? We've already been burned by the Chinese rush to invest and subsequent exit.

I do at least trust US investors to understand out culture and the importance of the club better.


I don't know if they're making any money buy at least Wrexhams investors seem to understand and appreciate the link amd impact to the community that football clubs have.

I think Hollywood FC is unique. I don't know what they paid to acquire it, nor what they have subsequently invested, but they could almost certainly sell it for more now.

But a lot of it is based upon who their owners are and their profile. Welcome to Wrexham is worth so much as a TV series that their revenues are comparable to a lot of Championship clubs. But I don't think many other owners could replicate such an increase in revenue and stature.

I also don't think you could tell the same story for Reading compared to a former mining town like Wrexham. "These middle class white collar fans just want a Premier League team they can watch again." :lol:

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by rabidbee » 10 Apr 2024 11:50

WestYorksRoyal I also don't think you could tell the same story for Reading compared to a former mining town like Wrexham. "These middle class white collar fans just want a Premier League team they can watch again." :lol:

You'd have to get Gervaise and Merchant to produce it.

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by bcubed » 10 Apr 2024 11:50

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WestYorksRoyal If we do join the growing list of clubs with US investment, I do wonder where this is going in the long term. US sporting franchises make money, US businessmen like to make money. But very few people make money out of English football. Could we witness a moment where the penny drops and US investors try to exit? We've already been burned by the Chinese rush to invest and subsequent exit.

I do at least trust US investors to understand out culture and the importance of the club better.


I don't know if they're making any money buy at least Wrexhams investors seem to understand and appreciate the link amd impact to the community that football clubs have.

I think Hollywood FC is unique. I don't know what they paid to acquire it, nor what they have subsequently invested, but they could almost certainly sell it for more now.

But a lot of it is based upon who their owners are and their profile. Welcome to Wrexham is worth so much as a TV series that their revenues are comparable to a lot of Championship clubs. But I don't think many other owners could replicate such an increase in revenue and stature.

I also don't think you could tell the same story for Reading compared to a former mining town like Wrexham. "These middle class white collar fans just want a Premier League team they can watch again." :lol:


Maybe
And no it doesn't really sell for Reading. :D But there are plenty of others where it would

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