Weekend Football

[Sanguine]

Pretty much defines Antony's time at United that after the club lost a 3-goal lead to a second tier club, narrowly avoided defeat thanks to VAR, and then squeezed through on penalties, he is seen cupping his ears towards Coventry's players after the winning kick.

https://twitter.com/MenInBlazers/status ... 0173257036

[NathStPaul]

Ironic given he wouldn't even get into that Coventry team.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Pretty much defines Antony's time at United that after the club lost a 3-goal lead to a second tier club, narrowly avoided defeat thanks to VAR, and then squeezed through on penalties, he is seen cupping his ears towards Coventry's players after the winning kick.

https://twitter.com/MenInBlazers/status ... 0173257036

Sums up why Man Utd have fallen so much. The "no dickheads" rule is the most simple and most important in recruitment. Yet so many clubs love signing dickheads.

[leon]

Pretty much defines Antony's time at United that after the club lost a 3-goal lead to a second tier club, narrowly avoided defeat thanks to VAR, and then squeezed through on penalties, he is seen cupping his ears towards Coventry's players after the winning kick.

https://twitter.com/MenInBlazers/status ... 0173257036

Sums up why Man Utd have fallen so much. The "no dickheads" rule is the most simple and most important in recruitment. Yet so many clubs love signing dickheads.

just looking at the fans tells you everything you need to know

[Winston Biscuit]

enjoyed the video of the Man Utd fans outside Wembley, who quickly left when Cov thought they got the winner, but then heard it was VAR'd out, running to get back into the ground

[Greatwesternline]

VAR has completely ruined the emotion of the game

Pre VAR no-one would have complained at the goal standing. Gutted for Cov

This is always my feeling.

Offside pre-VAR was a lot more around actually being in front of other players, anything reasonably level was deemed fine.


What i will say is this, we are the only country that does it like this. You don't get these situations in the Bundesliga, you dont get them in UEFA competitions.

This goal in the Champions League is given.100%. The english have for reasons unbeknown to me taken an ultra purist approach to VAR and offsides. There were about 30 goals in the CL quarters over the past fortnight, none had VAR crawling all over every possible pass to see if it was "technically" offside.

[Greatwesternline]

Lol.

Those options likely to be some fairly hot water, given they've basically accused the VAR ref of being corrupt.

Yeah that's outrageous. Hopefully a huge fine and their club account banned from social media posting.

The PGMOL also have some questions to answer if they knowingly used a VAR who supported one of the teams that had an "interest" in the result.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Those options likely to be some fairly hot water, given they've basically accused the VAR ref of being corrupt.

Yeah that's outrageous. Hopefully a huge fine and their club account banned from social media posting.

The PGMOL also have some questions to answer if they knowingly used a VAR who supported one of the teams that had an "interest" in the result.

I think they should sue Forest for defamation. These guys are professionals and it's ridiculous to suggest Attwell deliberately made Forest lose.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

VAR has completely ruined the emotion of the game

Pre VAR no-one would have complained at the goal standing. Gutted for Cov

This is always my feeling.

Offside pre-VAR was a lot more around actually being in front of other players, anything reasonably level was deemed fine.


What i will say is this, we are the only country that does it like this. You don't get these situations in the Bundesliga, you dont get them in UEFA competitions.

This goal in the Champions League is given.100%. The english have for reasons unbeknown to me taken an ultra purist approach to VAR and offsides. There were about 30 goals in the CL quarters over the past fortnight, none had VAR crawling all over every possible pass to see if it was "technically" offside.

How do they do it in other countries?

[Winston Biscuit]

Pre VAR no-one would have complained at the goal standing. Gutted for Cov

This is always my feeling.

Offside pre-VAR was a lot more around actually being in front of other players, anything reasonably level was deemed fine.


What i will say is this, we are the only country that does it like this. You don't get these situations in the Bundesliga, you dont get them in UEFA competitions.

This goal in the Champions League is given.100%. The english have for reasons unbeknown to me taken an ultra purist approach to VAR and offsides. There were about 30 goals in the CL quarters over the past fortnight, none had VAR crawling all over every possible pass to see if it was "technically" offside.

How do they do it in other countries?

VAR was mental in Italy when it was first brought in and caused huge delays and much controversy. They did change their approach to using it because people were so unhappy with it and now its much better.

[South Coast Royal]

enjoyed the video of the Man Utd fans outside Wembley, who quickly left when Cov thought they got the winner, but then heard it was VAR'd out, running to get back into the ground

Can't blame those Man Utd fans it can be tricky getting to Colchester or Croydon on a Sunday night.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

When I watch cricket and there is a review it happens quickly openly and whichever way it goes i do t mind but with VAR I just have an irrational hatred of the whole thing

[Greatwesternline]

Yeah that's outrageous. Hopefully a huge fine and their club account banned from social media posting.

The PGMOL also have some questions to answer if they knowingly used a VAR who supported one of the teams that had an "interest" in the result.

I think they should sue Forest for defamation. These guys are professionals and it's ridiculous to suggest Attwell deliberately made Forest lose.

The officials have to declare their interests and are not involved in games where this is a perceived conflict. So they've not abided by their own policies.

[NathStPaul]

VAR should only interfere when in comes to obvious mistakes, if you have to draw lines on a screen it isn't obvious and therefore the on field decision should stand imo.

[Greatwesternline]

When I watch cricket and there is a review it happens quickly openly and whichever way it goes i do t mind but with VAR I just have an irrational hatred of the whole thing

Also cricket is all about fine margins. Look at the size of the ball and how short the "pitch" is.

Football has a big ball and is played over a big field. The offside rule exists to stop players goal hanging, not to punish people in line with each other.

[Greatwesternline]

Pre VAR no-one would have complained at the goal standing. Gutted for Cov

This is always my feeling.

Offside pre-VAR was a lot more around actually being in front of other players, anything reasonably level was deemed fine.


What i will say is this, we are the only country that does it like this. You don't get these situations in the Bundesliga, you dont get them in UEFA competitions.

This goal in the Champions League is given.100%. The english have for reasons unbeknown to me taken an ultra purist approach to VAR and offsides. There were about 30 goals in the CL quarters over the past fortnight, none had VAR crawling all over every possible pass to see if it was "technically" offside.

How do they do it in other countries?

I dont know what UEFA VARs do in their little box, but they only review very obvious offsides. Because I've seen dozens of goals where people are on the shoulder of the last defender and the play isnt delayed one bit, they simply dont check them unless there is a big gap.

[South Coast Royal]

This is always my feeling.

Offside pre-VAR was a lot more around actually being in front of other players, anything reasonably level was deemed fine.


What i will say is this, we are the only country that does it like this. You don't get these situations in the Bundesliga, you dont get them in UEFA competitions.

This goal in the Champions League is given.100%. The english have for reasons unbeknown to me taken an ultra purist approach to VAR and offsides. There were about 30 goals in the CL quarters over the past fortnight, none had VAR crawling all over every possible pass to see if it was "technically" offside.

How do they do it in other countries?

I dont know what UEFA VARs do in their little box, but they only review very obvious offsides. Because I've seen dozens of goals where people are on the shoulder of the last defender and the play isnt delayed one bit, they simply dont check them unless there is a big gap.

IIRC wasn't there a suggestion when VAR came in that advantage should be with the attacker in close offside calls?

[WestYorksRoyal]

When I watch cricket and there is a review it happens quickly openly and whichever way it goes i do t mind but with VAR I just have an irrational hatred of the whole thing

Also cricket is all about fine margins. Look at the size of the ball and how short the "pitch" is.

Football has a big ball and is played over a big field. The offside rule exists to stop players goal hanging, not to punish people in line with each other.

The comparison with cricket is a good one, where they have umpires call on LBW shouts for marginal decision. That creates its own controversies; sometimes they say "umpires call" and don't overturn a decision when it looks pretty obvious that the ball was going on to hit the stumps.

It's all well and good saying VAR should only give marginal offsides, but how do you define what is "marginal"? Different viewers will have different opinions. At least the current approach of giving offsides for toenails or eyebrows being off tries to be objective.

[Sanguine]

enjoyed the video of the Man Utd fans outside Wembley, who quickly left when Cov thought they got the winner, but then heard it was VAR'd out, running to get back into the ground

I have an Arsenal supporting mate who left our infamous League Cup tie when they were 4-2 down with a minute of normal time remaining.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

This is always my feeling.

Offside pre-VAR was a lot more around actually being in front of other players, anything reasonably level was deemed fine.


What i will say is this, we are the only country that does it like this. You don't get these situations in the Bundesliga, you dont get them in UEFA competitions.

This goal in the Champions League is given.100%. The english have for reasons unbeknown to me taken an ultra purist approach to VAR and offsides. There were about 30 goals in the CL quarters over the past fortnight, none had VAR crawling all over every possible pass to see if it was "technically" offside.

How do they do it in other countries?

I dont know what UEFA VARs do in their little box, but they only review very obvious offsides. Because I've seen dozens of goals where people are on the shoulder of the last defender and the play isnt delayed one bit, they simply dont check them unless there is a big gap.

This makes sense