Rival Watch

[From Despair To Where?]

I'm just bemused that anyone at Cardiff thinks they even remotely have a leg to stand on.

[Mr Optimist]

Not currently rivals, but what a bunch of twats.

"Cardiff City is taking legal action against FC Nantes, seeking €120.2 million following a study suggesting they had a 54.2% chance of avoiding relegation with Emiliano Sala. They plan to submit an invoice of €120.2m to the French club."

A study by someone at Cardiff University? It all sounds a bit if my Uncle had a fanny she’d be my Aunt. Wasn’t it the agent who suggested the flight with the dodgy plane. The pilot who died, who seems to be not mentioned very often and gets forgotten about, was an innocent party too and had reservations about the condition of the plane being used beforehand. I thought it was Cardiff City and the agent who were in a rush to fly him to Cardiff when the player wanted to get a normal commercial flight. They were probably worried about being gazumped over the signing.

Cardiff have spent years trying to not pay FC Nantes the transfer fee they owe them, surely with all the legal costs built up it would have been better to have paid up, but wasn’t the problem that Cardiff hadn’t told their insurance broker to add Sala to their insurance cover?

[Sutekh]

Not currently rivals, but what a bunch of twats.

"Cardiff City is taking legal action against FC Nantes, seeking €120.2 million following a study suggesting they had a 54.2% chance of avoiding relegation with Emiliano Sala. They plan to submit an invoice of €120.2m to the French club."

A study by someone at Cardiff University? It all sounds a bit if my Uncle had a fanny she’d be my Aunt. Wasn’t it the agent who suggested the flight with the dodgy plane. The pilot who died, who seems to be not mentioned very often and gets forgotten about, was an innocent party too and had reservations about the condition of the plane being used beforehand. I thought it was Cardiff City and the agent who were in a rush to fly him to Cardiff when the player wanted to get a normal commercial flight. They were probably worried about being gazumped over the signing.

Cardiff have spent years trying to not pay FC Nantes the transfer fee they owe them, surely with all the legal costs built up it would have been better to have paid up, but wasn’t the problem that Cardiff hadn’t told their insurance broker to add Sala to their insurance cover?

Cardiff, just another obnoxious little club. File under Forest.

[Franchise FC]

Not currently rivals, but what a bunch of twats.

"Cardiff City is taking legal action against FC Nantes, seeking €120.2 million following a study suggesting they had a 54.2% chance of avoiding relegation with Emiliano Sala. They plan to submit an invoice of €120.2m to the French club."

And I presume Nantes will file the invoice in the shredder

Hang on.
If Cardiff raise an invoice and are allowed to include it in their accounts, it may save them from further FFP issues in the short term.
Then, if bad debt write offs are excluded from FFP (I have no idea whether they are), this could wipe out the FFP issues altogether.

A wizard wheeze if they get away with it

[Mr Angry]

And they then get done for false accounting.

I can't see why Cardiff are suing Nantes over this.

- Cardiff buy Sala from Nantes with a fee agreed.

- Sala signs for and is registered by Cardiff, and is a Cardiff player (as determined by a Court)

- Cardiff pay Nantes the agreed transfer fee.

- Sala dies in a tragic accident.

- Cardiff get relegated from the Premier League

So, where is Nantes' liability in Cardiff's relegation? They seem to be the wholly innocent Party in all of this.

It would be like Man United suing Ajax for £85M because their purchase of the Ajax player Anthony for £85M didn't result in Man United winning the Premier League!

[6ft Kerplunk]

The pilot who died, who seems to be not mentioned very often and gets forgotten about, was an innocent party too and had reservations about the condition of the plane being used beforehand.

He may have had reservations about the plane but they didn't extend to owning up to not having a licence for the type of plane or not being allowed to fly at night.

Ibbotson's rating for flying the aircraft had expired in November 2018 which invalidated his licence, and he was not qualified to fly at night. David Henderson, who organised the flight and was originally scheduled to be the pilot, was charged with endangering the safety of an aircraft. He was found guilty on 28 October 2021, after a trial at Cardiff Crown Court and jailed for 18 months.

[Sutekh]

The pilot who died, who seems to be not mentioned very often and gets forgotten about, was an innocent party too and had reservations about the condition of the plane being used beforehand.

He may have had reservations about the plane but they didn't extend to owning up to not having a licence for the type of plane or not being allowed to fly at night.

Ibbotson's rating for flying the aircraft had expired in November 2018 which invalidated his licence, and he was not qualified to fly at night. David Henderson, who organised the flight and was originally scheduled to be the pilot, was charged with endangering the safety of an aircraft. He was found guilty on 28 October 2021, after a trial at Cardiff Crown Court and jailed for 18 months.

Nothing about 2 lives being lost just the property, says a lot about law and today's society.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

The pilot who died, who seems to be not mentioned very often and gets forgotten about, was an innocent party too and had reservations about the condition of the plane being used beforehand.

He may have had reservations about the plane but they didn't extend to owning up to not having a licence for the type of plane or not being allowed to fly at night.

Ibbotson's rating for flying the aircraft had expired in November 2018 which invalidated his licence, and he was not qualified to fly at night. David Henderson, who organised the flight and was originally scheduled to be the pilot, was charged with endangering the safety of an aircraft. He was found guilty on 28 October 2021, after a trial at Cardiff Crown Court and jailed for 18 months.

This. Any pilot who has reservations about an aircraft would not take the aircraft. The fact he knew he wasn’t licensed to fly the type or at night yet did so says a lot about him.

[Snowflake Royal]

The pilot who died, who seems to be not mentioned very often and gets forgotten about, was an innocent party too and had reservations about the condition of the plane being used beforehand.

He may have had reservations about the plane but they didn't extend to owning up to not having a licence for the type of plane or not being allowed to fly at night.

Ibbotson's rating for flying the aircraft had expired in November 2018 which invalidated his licence, and he was not qualified to fly at night. David Henderson, who organised the flight and was originally scheduled to be the pilot, was charged with endangering the safety of an aircraft. He was found guilty on 28 October 2021, after a trial at Cardiff Crown Court and jailed for 18 months.

Nothing about 2 lives being lost just the property, says a lot about law and today's society.

You think he should have been charged with manslaughter? Good luck with that one!

[Stranded]

He may have had reservations about the plane but they didn't extend to owning up to not having a licence for the type of plane or not being allowed to fly at night.

Nothing about 2 lives being lost just the property, says a lot about law and today's society.

You think he should have been charged with manslaughter? Good luck with that one!

Yep, most likely got charged with the crime that they felt they had the best chance of getting a conviction in given he wasn't the one actually flying the plane.

[Brogue]

General football lads come on. Let’s keep this thread for what it was intended for, our immediate rivals.

[LUX]

Spot on, Brogue.

This is one of the few Team Board threads I follow.

[LUX]

Cheltenham 2-0 up early on v Peterborough reserves.

Cambridge in danger as much as Burton, unless they can beat Wycombe tonight.

[The Royal Forester]

As It Stands
Team P GD Pts
1
Reading
0 0 -6
1
Portsmouth
45 35 94
2
Wigan
0 0 -8
2
Derby
45 39 89
3
Bolton
45 35 86
4
Peterborough
45 28 83
5
Barnsley
45 18 75
6
Lincoln City
45 27 74
7
Oxford Utd
45 22 74
8
Blackpool
45 18 73
9
Stevenage
45 10 68
10
Wycombe
45 4 62
11
Leyton Orient
45 -4 62
12
Exeter
45 -14 61
14
Northampton
45 -9 59
15
Bristol Rovers
45 -14 57
16
Charlton
45 0 53
18
Shrewsbury
45 -30 48
19
Cambridge
45 -22 47
20
Burton
45 -25 46
21
Cheltenham
45 -23 44
22
Fleetwood
45 -26 40
23
Port Vale
45 -33 40
24
Carlisle
45 -38 30
V
BBC's As it stands table
Reading on top on -6 points. Why have we worried all season about relegation? The BBC will get us promoted somehow.

[LUX]

Cambridge score

[LUX]

One all, no longer safe

[Snowflake Royal]

So Cambridge need at least a point against Vale, or Cheltenham to not win or Burton to lose.

Ideal results imo are Burton lose, Cambridge at least draw and Cheltenham win.

[WestYorksRoyal]

At the top, it would be the most hilarious bottle job if Derby lose to Carlisle on Saturday, but even then Bolton would need a 4 goal swing to catch them. Chances probably at about 1%.

[Stranded]

Yeah will be massively surprised if Derby don't go up on Saturday - hopefully Paul Warne then keeps up his Championship relegation record.

The only way they won't is if they lose at home to Carlisle and Bolton win and overturn a 4 goal swing. Derby have previous of course - in 2015, all they had to do was not lose at home to 18th placed Reading to make the play-offs - we naturally stuffed them 3-0.

In terms of play-offs.

Peterborough guaranteed a spot for a couple of weeks now but can finish 3rd if they beat Bolton by 4.

Barnsley, Lincoln, Oxford & Blackpool look to claim the other 2 spots:

Barnsley: Equal or better the results of 2 of the other 3 and they are in.
Lincoln: Equal or better the results of 2 of the other 3 and they are in.
Oxford: Better the results of Lincoln or Barnsley. If Lincoln win, win by 5 more goals than they do. If they lose, can still qualify if Blackpool lose and Lincoln lose by 5 more goals
Blackpool: Have to win. Draw will not be enough unless Lincoln and Oxford lose by 9 and 4 respectively.

At the bottom

3 sides in danger after Cheltenham beat the Peterborough reserve side last night:

Cheltenham: Must beat Stevenage (a) and hope either Burton draw or Cambridge lose.
Burton: Win at Fleetwood sees them safe. If they draw, will stay up if Cheltenham lose/draw or Cambridge lose by minimum 3*
Cambridge: Draw or better at Vale keeps them up. Lose and they will stay up if Cheltenham fail to win and Burton lose (or draw with goal swing of less than 3)

* In the event that Burton draw 0-0 at Fleetwood and Cambridge lose 3-0 at Vale then the sides will have identical records. Burton will be saved by a better head to head record. However, if Cheltenham also win then Cambridge will drop as a result,

[Franchise FC]

I think you’re overplaying the 4 goal difference.

If Derby lose and Bolton win, that’s a minimum of 2 of the 4 already

However, Derby won’t lose