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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Franchise FC » 29 May 2024 08:20

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Generally, a new government is judged on the first 100 days. If Labour or anyone else other than the Conservatives win, They will want to make changes and get their new polices in place as soon as possible, the things they pledged to do when elected. Not sure pushing through some leftover policy from before the election will be a top priority.

You are having a laugh aren't you? What government fulfils their election pledges? Only the gullible fall for that one.

Thatcher’s did (first win)
Blair’s did (first win)
OK, exceptions rather than the rule

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Forbury Lion » 29 May 2024 11:44

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Forbury Lion Generally, a new government is judged on the first 100 days. If Labour or anyone else other than the Conservatives win, They will want to make changes and get their new polices in place as soon as possible, the things they pledged to do when elected. Not sure pushing through some leftover policy from before the election will be a top priority.

You are having a laugh aren't you? What government fulfils their election pledges? Only the gullible fall for that one.

Thatcher’s did (first win)
Blair’s did (first win)
OK, exceptions rather than the rule

Fair point, but I imagine unless it's a quick win for them to get gain some popularity they'll focus on other things

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Chairman Mao » 18 Jun 2024 11:10

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WestYorksRoyal Probably a good thing. Labour will resurrect it, with a PM who is a genuine football fan. It's not a hard left incoming government, but where the interests of fans are in direct conflict with billionaire and hedge fund owners, they'll still be more inclined to side with fans than the Tories.
Generally, a new government is judged on the first 100 days. If Labour or anyone else other than the Conservatives win, They will want to make changes and get their new polices in place as soon as possible, the things they pledged to do when elected. Not sure pushing through some leftover policy from before the election will be a top priority.

You are having a laugh aren't you? What government fulfils their election pledges? Only the gullible fall for that one.

229 manifesto commitments in the 1997 Labour manifesto and researched each one to find out whether it has been carried out.

Labour's pledges
Done
181 (79%)
Not done
21 (9.2%)
On course
3 (1.3%)
Partially done
14 (6.1%)
Debatable
10 (4.4%)

compare that to the percentage of manifesto promises delivered over the last 14 years, and you will see that the parties arent all the same.
no matter how much the tory press try to convince you that they are

of the 42 promises in a policy lte 2019 manifesto
tories delivered 2, and one of those only partially

and over the entire 14 years theyve reneged, revesed and abandoned 362 pledges, promises and policies


OOPs, soz, i thought this was AE

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Mid Sussex Royal » 18 Jun 2024 11:36

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Forbury Lion Generally, a new government is judged on the first 100 days. If Labour or anyone else other than the Conservatives win, They will want to make changes and get their new polices in place as soon as possible, the things they pledged to do when elected. Not sure pushing through some leftover policy from before the election will be a top priority.

You are having a laugh aren't you? What government fulfils their election pledges? Only the gullible fall for that one.

229 manifesto commitments in the 1997 Labour manifesto and researched each one to find out whether it has been carried out.

Labour's pledges
Done
181 (79%)
Not done
21 (9.2%)
On course
3 (1.3%)
Partially done
14 (6.1%)
Debatable
10 (4.4%)

compare that to the percentage of manifesto promises delivered over the last 14 years, and you will see that the parties arent all the same.
no matter how much the tory press try to convince you that they are

of the 42 promises in a policy lte 2019 manifesto
tories delivered 2, and one of those only partially

and over the entire 14 years theyve reneged, revesed and abandoned 362 pledges, promises and policies


OOPs, soz, i thought this was AE


You must have a lot of free time to check out a manifesto from 1997 with 200 odd pledges in this amount of detail.

I'm not in the least defending this government who have been shambolic and need to go but we have had a one in 100 years pandemic and a war which crippled global fuel prices for while....these things tend to move the goalposts.

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Franchise FC » 18 Jun 2024 12:44

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The Royal Forester You are having a laugh aren't you? What government fulfils their election pledges? Only the gullible fall for that one.

229 manifesto commitments in the 1997 Labour manifesto and researched each one to find out whether it has been carried out.

Labour's pledges
Done
181 (79%)
Not done
21 (9.2%)
On course
3 (1.3%)
Partially done
14 (6.1%)
Debatable
10 (4.4%)

compare that to the percentage of manifesto promises delivered over the last 14 years, and you will see that the parties arent all the same.
no matter how much the tory press try to convince you that they are

of the 42 promises in a policy lte 2019 manifesto
tories delivered 2, and one of those only partially

and over the entire 14 years theyve reneged, revesed and abandoned 362 pledges, promises and policies


OOPs, soz, i thought this was AE


You must have a lot of free time to check out a manifesto from 1997 with 200 odd pledges in this amount of detail.

I'm not in the least defending this government who have been shambolic and need to go but we have had a one in 100 years pandemic and a war which crippled global fuel prices for while....these things tend to move the goalposts.

Yes, that does move the goalposts but it doesn’t break them down for firewood and sell them to the next door neighbour for peanuts


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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by From Despair To Where? » 18 Jun 2024 15:11

It's not about what you face, it's about how you face it.

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Crusader Royal » 18 Jun 2024 16:48

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From Despair To Where? It's not about what you face, it's about how you face it.


And that is why the Reform UK Party has issued a Contract and not a Manifeso, everything is fully costed and achievable.


Odd that the owner of the Reform business doesn’t think it’s costed or even practical !
He also doesn’t appear to understand what a contract actually is.

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Orion1871 » 18 Jun 2024 16:53

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From Despair To Where? It's not about what you face, it's about how you face it.


And that is why the Reform UK Party has issued a Contract and not a Manifeso, everything is fully costed and achievable.


Odd that the owner of the Reform business doesn’t think it’s costed or even practical !
He also doesn’t appear to understand what a contract actually is.


Don't give it oxygen and if you do please don't quote it so we have to see it's lame racist trolling.

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Crusader Royal » 18 Jun 2024 16:57

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And that is why the Reform UK Party has issued a Contract and not a Manifeso, everything is fully costed and achievable.


Odd that the owner of the Reform business doesn’t think it’s costed or even practical !
He also doesn’t appear to understand what a contract actually is.


Don't give it oxygen and if you do please don't quote it so we have to see it's lame racist trolling.


How come you can quote him but I can’t ?
I got ride of 90% of the nonsense…


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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Orion1871 » 18 Jun 2024 17:12

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Odd that the owner of the Reform business doesn’t think it’s costed or even practical !
He also doesn’t appear to understand what a contract actually is.


Don't give it oxygen and if you do please don't quote it so we have to see it's lame racist trolling.


How come you can quote him but I can’t ?
I got ride of 90% of the nonsense…


You had already quoted it. If he'd done a new message and then I'd quoted it you would have a point.

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Crusader Royal » 18 Jun 2024 17:23

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Don't give it oxygen and if you do please don't quote it so we have to see it's lame racist trolling.


How come you can quote him but I can’t ?
I got ride of 90% of the nonsense…


You had already quoted it. If he'd done a new message and then I'd quoted it you would have a point.


But you could have not requoted him ….
Then you would have had a point !
It’s also a bit preachy to police what other’s choose to post….

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Jun 2024 17:55

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The Royal Forester You are having a laugh aren't you? What government fulfils their election pledges? Only the gullible fall for that one.

229 manifesto commitments in the 1997 Labour manifesto and researched each one to find out whether it has been carried out.

Labour's pledges
Done
181 (79%)
Not done
21 (9.2%)
On course
3 (1.3%)
Partially done
14 (6.1%)
Debatable
10 (4.4%)

compare that to the percentage of manifesto promises delivered over the last 14 years, and you will see that the parties arent all the same.
no matter how much the tory press try to convince you that they are

of the 42 promises in a policy lte 2019 manifesto
tories delivered 2, and one of those only partially

and over the entire 14 years theyve reneged, revesed and abandoned 362 pledges, promises and policies


OOPs, soz, i thought this was AE


You must have a lot of free time to check out a manifesto from 1997 with 200 odd pledges in this amount of detail.

I'm not in the least defending this government who have been shambolic and need to go but we have had a one in 100 years pandemic and a war which crippled global fuel prices for while....these things tend to move the goalposts.

What about the 10 years prior to that?

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Jun 2024 17:57

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How come you can quote him but I can’t ?
I got ride of 90% of the nonsense…


You had already quoted it. If he'd done a new message and then I'd quoted it you would have a point.


But you could have not requoted him ….
Then you would have had a point !
It’s also a bit preachy to police what other’s choose to post….

If the place was even partially moderated, you wouldn't see any of his posts to reply to.


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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by SouthDownsRoyal » 20 Jun 2024 12:14

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Odd that the owner of the Reform business doesn’t think it’s costed or even practical !
He also doesn’t appear to understand what a contract actually is.


Don't give it oxygen and if you do please don't quote it so we have to see it's lame racist trolling.


How come you can quote him but I can’t ?
I got ride of 90% of the nonsense…


Imagine a forum where one could simply scroll past posts one doesn’t like or agree with

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Sutekh » 20 Jun 2024 12:57

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Don't give it oxygen and if you do please don't quote it so we have to see it's lame racist trolling.


How come you can quote him but I can’t ?
I got ride of 90% of the nonsense…


Imagine a forum where one could simply scroll past posts one doesn’t like or agree with


Wonder what it was like in the old days when people just ignored other people's opinions that they didn't agree with, rather than getting upset and having to have a cry.

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by SouthDownsRoyal » 20 Jun 2024 13:11

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How come you can quote him but I can’t ?
I got ride of 90% of the nonsense…


Imagine a forum where one could simply scroll past posts one doesn’t like or agree with


Wonder what it was like in the old days when people just ignored other people's opinions that they didn't agree with, rather than getting upset and having to have a cry.


Does make you wonder

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Orion1871 » 20 Jun 2024 16:34

Imagine a forum where an open racist who continually posts their bigoted bullshit unchecked was banned instead of allowed to continually post their bigoted views.

It's a bit stupid to say "just scroll past and ignore them" when that's precisely what I and so many are doing by putting KKKarboot on ignore.

I'm not the first, and won't be the last, to say "don't quote him" but obviously I'm getting pelters for it when others don't. Oh well, shit happens.

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by Snowflake Royal » 20 Jun 2024 19:30

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Imagine a forum where one could simply scroll past posts one doesn’t like or agree with


Wonder what it was like in the old days when people just ignored other people's opinions that they didn't agree with, rather than getting upset and having to have a cry.


Does make you wonder

Well, we didn't have them constantly shoved in our faces, because we cultivated friendship groups and didn't associate with people where it was an issue.

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by Crusader Royal » 20 Jun 2024 21:15

Orion1871 Imagine a forum where an open racist who continually posts their bigoted bullshit unchecked was banned instead of allowed to continually post their bigoted views.

It's a bit stupid to say "just scroll past and ignore them" when that's precisely what I and so many are doing by putting KKKarboot on ignore.

I'm not the first, and won't be the last, to say "don't quote him" but obviously I'm getting pelters for it when others don't. Oh well, shit happens.


You really aren’t.
I just pointed out the irony of you ordering me to not quote him when you yourself had quoted him !
I wouldn’t lose sleep over it.
However I’ll continue to decide for myself what I post and leave it to you to not read stuff. That seems the grown up approach.

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Re: #SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

by SouthDownsRoyal » 20 Jun 2024 23:42

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Orion1871 Imagine a forum where an open racist who continually posts their bigoted bullshit unchecked was banned instead of allowed to continually post their bigoted views.

It's a bit stupid to say "just scroll past and ignore them" when that's precisely what I and so many are doing by putting KKKarboot on ignore.

I'm not the first, and won't be the last, to say "don't quote him" but obviously I'm getting pelters for it when others don't. Oh well, shit happens.


You really aren’t.
I just pointed out the irony of you ordering me to not quote him when you yourself had quoted him !
I wouldn’t lose sleep over it.
However I’ll continue to decide for myself what I post and leave it to you to not read stuff. That seems the grown up approach.



As is scrolling on by, if you don’t like what’s on tv, change the channel, if you don’t like a post, whether it’s quoted or not just scroll past.

This works for me, whoever the poster may be.

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