Pre-season 2024

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Sutekh » 03 Aug 2024 16:49

WestYorksRoyal Is this a full strength Hull side? We seem to be coping well. One thing about well drilled teams is that they can often cope remarkably well with a couple of rookies or players out of position, as everyone knows what their job is. Maybe we can cope with the current full back crisis.


Hull fans seem to be moaning about their owner. From the stupidity of getting shot of Rosenior to the failure to back their new guy in the transfer market over the close season. Overall they've not had a brilliant preseason, but then results in preseason mean naff all when the season starts.

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Snowflake Royal » 03 Aug 2024 16:51

Good warm up that. Hull on top first half, so a good workout, but also created, got Smith a goal. Morale boosting win. Cleansheet with a weakened defence.

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Snowflake Royal » 03 Aug 2024 16:53

I doubt Cardiff, QPR or Hull will be at the top of the Championship, but we held our own against all three.

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by blythspartan » 03 Aug 2024 16:53

I know it’s only a friendly but that was really good. I genuinely think we bossed the game. A bit wasteful at times but gives me hope for next season.

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Hound » 03 Aug 2024 17:18

Played very well, were the better side throughout. Other than Garcia struggling down the left we looked very comfortable

Selles has them very well drilled. Look fit and energetic. Mbengue, Knibbs, Kanu all top class but everyone bar Garcia (who did do some good stuff but has a way to go) played well

Enjoyable game. Not sure what I’d make of that as a hull fan, they were pretty wretched


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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Vision » 03 Aug 2024 17:36

First 20 minutes we struggled somewhat (I thought we were going to be overrun completely after 5 minutes) but once we settled and adjusted for the rest of the game I thought we were the better side. Craig obviously isn't a proper right back but he's a smart player and made the adjustments necessary , even moving into midfield at opportune moments, so I think we'll see him cover until Yiadom is back. Garcia just isn't ready. There's clearly talent there but he will just be targeted constantly in League 1. Mbengue and Kanu were excellent once they settled into the game.

We pressed well, the individual pieces of skill were all present but I also thought there were more patterns of play evident as well.

Obviously when the real thing starts they'll be far more intensity from the opposition than Hull showed today after the first 20 minutes but there was plenty to be encouraged about. Interesting to see how much Wing was taking the ball from the centre halves in the final 15 minutes which indicates that's our way of trying to see the game out when leading.

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by WestYorksRoyal » 03 Aug 2024 17:48

Selles saying Abrefa and Dorsett to join training on Monday, so will bolster the weak positions too. Have they had some pre season training and minutes? Don't want them going in cold for Brum.

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by windermereROYAL » 03 Aug 2024 17:51

Snowflake Royal I doubt Cardiff, QPR or Hull will be at the top of the Championship, but we held our own against all three.


Beat Watford too who will likely be thereabouts, but we don`t know what kind of team they put out.

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by On Strings » 03 Aug 2024 17:54

Dammit, I'm feeling optimistic about the bloody play-offs now. We've got a decent side here with some exceptional youngsters again coming through. Add a few loans and hopefully we have very few injuries, and we could be in the mix.


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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Mid Sussex Royal » 03 Aug 2024 18:49

Watched on monitor but agree with much of the comments.

Negative - Garcia looks a great prospect but probably 12-18 months too soon for L1.

Another negative - radio Berks - dreadful, and how, I assume, a paid pundit (Williams) can say he knows nothing of the opposition from last season is embarrassing, the Tilehurst End seemed to know what Hull were all about. By comparison, the local guys in Cardiff knew all about us in midweek.

Positive - the full pre-season with the whole squad has clearly paid dividends re general shape and tactics and although we have a very tough start I'd expect an overall decent season even without any signings.

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Crowbar6753 » 03 Aug 2024 19:16

Agree with most, an decent showing against opponents in a higher division. That's 4 games against Championship sides with two wins and two losses and to be honest we were unlucky in the two defeats!!
On these showings i would expect us to be comfortable this season and if and when the take over goes through then with a few new faces in the areas that need filling or cover then we could possibly aim higher up the table.

Birmingham could be a tough test however they are a side in transition with lots of new players and our team is currently well drilled and used to playing together so hopefully this can narrow the gap.

If we can get ourselves into middle table with this tough first month i would be extremely hopeful of a decent season.

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Hound » 03 Aug 2024 19:20

Have said this before but we do play quite a simple and effective game. Its good coaching tbf

Not afraid to go long as we seem to challenge for the ball well on each of those long ones or often pick up the second ball. Selles just couldn’t get it working early part of last year but we’re looking far more like we know what we are doing now

I do think we are prob 3-4 solid to good L1 players away from top 7 but hopefully if the takeover ever happens that may become a reality

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Snowflake Royal » 03 Aug 2024 20:13

Crowbar6753 Agree with most, an decent showing against opponents in a higher division. That's 4 games against Championship sides with two wins and two losses and to be honest we were unlucky in the two defeats!!
On these showings i would expect us to be comfortable this season and if and when the take over goes through then with a few new faces in the areas that need filling or cover then we could possibly aim higher up the table.

Birmingham could be a tough test however they are a side in transition with lots of new players and our team is currently well drilled and used to playing together so hopefully this can narrow the gap.

If we can get ourselves into middle table with this tough first month i would be extremely hopeful of a decent season.

5 isn't it?

Watford, Millwall, Cardiff, QPR, Hull.

Two 2-0 wins, a 1-0 and two 1-2 defeats.

That's almost Championship promotion form. :D


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Re: Pre-season 2024

by AthleticoSpizz » 03 Aug 2024 20:16

Hound Have said this before but we do play quite a simple and effective game. Its good coaching tbf

Not afraid to go long as we seem to challenge for the ball well on each of those long ones or often pick up the second ball. Selles just couldn’t get it working early part of last year but we’re looking far more like we know what we are doing now

I do think we are prob 3-4 solid to good L1 players away from top 7 but hopefully if the takeover ever happens that may become a reality
+1

Selles has got through his apprenticeship.

He is hot property, we have just got to re-pay his loyalty* and keep him around for the forthcomings

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by WestYorksRoyal » 03 Aug 2024 20:21

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Hound Have said this before but we do play quite a simple and effective game. Its good coaching tbf

Not afraid to go long as we seem to challenge for the ball well on each of those long ones or often pick up the second ball. Selles just couldn’t get it working early part of last year but we’re looking far more like we know what we are doing now

I do think we are prob 3-4 solid to good L1 players away from top 7 but hopefully if the takeover ever happens that may become a reality
+1

Selles has got through his apprenticeship.

He is hot property, we have just got to re-pay his loyalty* and keep him around for the forthcomings

If a sticky run of results happens this season, I hope we're brave enough to stick with him. Got a very high ceiling and could do a rebuild job comparable to Pardew.

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Crowbar6753 » 03 Aug 2024 20:25

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Crowbar6753 Agree with most, an decent showing against opponents in a higher division. That's 4 games against Championship sides with two wins and two losses and to be honest we were unlucky in the two defeats!!
On these showings i would expect us to be comfortable this season and if and when the take over goes through then with a few new faces in the areas that need filling or cover then we could possibly aim higher up the table.

Birmingham could be a tough test however they are a side in transition with lots of new players and our team is currently well drilled and used to playing together so hopefully this can narrow the gap.

If we can get ourselves into middle table with this tough first month i would be extremely hopeful of a decent season.

5 isn't it?

Watford, Millwall, Cardiff, QPR, Hull.

Two 2-0 wins, a 1-0 and two 1-2 defeats.

That's almost Championship promotion form. :D


You are correct :D :D it's still early over this side of the pond and that's my excuse and i'm sticking to it :D :D

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Sutekh » 03 Aug 2024 21:25

Mid Sussex Royal Watched on monitor but agree with much of the comments.

Negative - Garcia looks a great prospect but probably 12-18 months too soon for L1.

Another negative - radio Berks - dreadful, and how, I assume, a paid pundit (Williams) can say he knows nothing of the opposition from last season is embarrassing, the Tilehurst End seemed to know what Hull were all about. By comparison, the local guys in Cardiff knew all about us in midweek.

Positive - the full pre-season with the whole squad has clearly paid dividends re general shape and tactics and although we have a very tough start I'd expect an overall decent season even without any signings.


Agree with this, clueless beyond belief - culminating in the pair of them not knowing that clubs have different numbers in each round of the FA Cup draw (honestly couldn't say whether they had the same number throughout their cup runs or not :lol: ). Just so utterly embarrassing!

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by From Despair To Where? » 03 Aug 2024 21:30

I don't like going overboard on preseason results but, in May, if someone had said we'd go into the new season having only lost Mola, I'd have laughed. I think that's more important, that we haven't had to build a squad almost from scratch over the summer, the squad is settled and know the system and each other.

Get the takeover completed, make 2 or 3 signings in key areas and we will be ok.

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Snowflake Royal » 03 Aug 2024 21:44

From Despair To Where? I don't like going overboard on preseason results but, in May, if someone had said we'd go into the new season having only lost Mola, I'd have laughed. I think that's more important, that we haven't had to build a squad almost from scratch over the summer, the squad is settled and know the system and each other.

Get the takeover completed, make 2 or 3 signings in key areas and we will be ok.

Obviously, we don't know how we'll actually start the season, nor how our preseason opponents will. But I think there's a good chance this preseason is making an absolute mockery of the modern trend of signing almost an entire new XI every summer.

And it seems to be also showing that if managers get the time, and are bold enough to change things that aren’t working, the merry-go-round isn't the answer.

We are just a completely different side to the one that couldn’t buy a win last autumn. Largely due to a simple change of shape that bought the time for the players and manager to develop. And that chance happened because the owner didn’t care enough to sack a manager who was failing.

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Re: Pre-season 2024

by Stranded » 04 Aug 2024 15:20

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Crowbar6753 Agree with most, an decent showing against opponents in a higher division. That's 4 games against Championship sides with two wins and two losses and to be honest we were unlucky in the two defeats!!
On these showings i would expect us to be comfortable this season and if and when the take over goes through then with a few new faces in the areas that need filling or cover then we could possibly aim higher up the table.

Birmingham could be a tough test however they are a side in transition with lots of new players and our team is currently well drilled and used to playing together so hopefully this can narrow the gap.

If we can get ourselves into middle table with this tough first month i would be extremely hopeful of a decent season.

5 isn't it?

Watford, Millwall, Cardiff, QPR, Hull.

Two 2-0 wins, a 1-0 and two 1-2 defeats.

That's almost Championship promotion form. :D


You are correct :D :D it's still early over this side of the pond and that's my excuse and i'm sticking to it :D :D


1-1 draw with PL Ipswich too.

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