CONFIMRED - This might be it!!

[Snowflake Royal]

Couhig jumps out from the wings onto the stage wearing full kit oxf*rd and shouts "I bought you!"

Limbs and beer everywhere.

I'm not ruling this out. Might be worth getting a ticket

Huang Kad just suggested this might happen, which means it most certainly won't.

Just stealing my joke.

[Snowflake Royal]

Any chance it’ll announced at the PT?

Couhig jumps out from the wings onto the stage wearing full kit oxf*rd and shouts "I bought you!"

Limbs and beer everywhere.

Followed by "and unfortunately the club financially isn't viable and we will be merging with Wycombe"...

God, you have to shit on absolutely everything don't you, you sad sack bastard.

[Dirk Gently]

A few notable changes submitted to companies house by Redwood Capital today.

Leo Rifkind has resigned as director. There were rumours previously that a leading Chrion investor had pulled out causing the deal to nearly collapse, perhaps it was him? Or, speculating, perhaps the EFL raised some concerns given his previous history at Charlton?

Their registered office has also changed. I note to the same building occupied by the law firm Kitson Boyle, who led Couhig's sale of Wycombe a few months back according to this article: https://www.torbayweekly.co.uk/news/hom ... ition.html

Further evidence that Couhig is very much leading this now and Chiron, it seems, will be more like passive background investors?

Is Redwood Capital any relation of Redwood Bank or Redwood Investments?

Because there's a piece in this week's Private Eye about the operations of the latter two...

[On Strings]

A few notable changes submitted to companies house by Redwood Capital today.

Leo Rifkind has resigned as director. There were rumours previously that a leading Chrion investor had pulled out causing the deal to nearly collapse, perhaps it was him? Or, speculating, perhaps the EFL raised some concerns given his previous history at Charlton?

Their registered office has also changed. I note to the same building occupied by the law firm Kitson Boyle, who led Couhig's sale of Wycombe a few months back according to this article: https://www.torbayweekly.co.uk/news/hom ... ition.html

Further evidence that Couhig is very much leading this now and Chiron, it seems, will be more like passive background investors?

Is Redwood Capital any relation of Redwood Bank or Redwood Investments?

Because there's a piece in this week's Private Eye about the operations of the latter two...

"Redwood Capital is not a separate entity but rather part of Redwood Bank. Redwood Bank, a specialist business finance provider, is planning to go public through a reverse takeover of R8 Capital Investments12. This strategic move aims to raise capital and facilitate the bank’s growth and diversification2."

[Dirk Gently]

A few notable changes submitted to companies house by Redwood Capital today.

Leo Rifkind has resigned as director. There were rumours previously that a leading Chrion investor had pulled out causing the deal to nearly collapse, perhaps it was him? Or, speculating, perhaps the EFL raised some concerns given his previous history at Charlton?

Their registered office has also changed. I note to the same building occupied by the law firm Kitson Boyle, who led Couhig's sale of Wycombe a few months back according to this article: https://www.torbayweekly.co.uk/news/hom ... ition.html

Further evidence that Couhig is very much leading this now and Chiron, it seems, will be more like passive background investors?

Is Redwood Capital any relation of Redwood Bank or Redwood Investments?

Because there's a piece in this week's Private Eye about the operations of the latter two...

"Redwood Capital is not a separate entity but rather part of Redwood Bank. Redwood Bank, a specialist business finance provider, is planning to go public through a reverse takeover of R8 Capital Investments12. This strategic move aims to raise capital and facilitate the bank’s growth and diversification2."

[Readingfanman]

A few notable changes submitted to companies house by Redwood Capital today.

Leo Rifkind has resigned as director. There were rumours previously that a leading Chrion investor had pulled out causing the deal to nearly collapse, perhaps it was him? Or, speculating, perhaps the EFL raised some concerns given his previous history at Charlton?

Their registered office has also changed. I note to the same building occupied by the law firm Kitson Boyle, who led Couhig's sale of Wycombe a few months back according to this article: https://www.torbayweekly.co.uk/news/hom ... ition.html

Further evidence that Couhig is very much leading this now and Chiron, it seems, will be more like passive background investors?

Is Redwood Capital any relation of Redwood Bank or Redwood Investments?

Because there's a piece in this week's Private Eye about the operations of the latter two...

Given the investment company is called Redwood Holdings 1, not Redwood Capital, think there's less to be worried about.

[MouldyRoyal]

Yeah this is the likely takeover SPV - Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd:

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/15584628

Owned by Chiron Sports Group AG. Redwood Capital is, I believe, a Scottish investment vehicle, but the name is generic so I may be mistaken (and do not know to which article Dirk is referring). No connection.

[Sutekh]

Yeah this is the likely takeover SPV - Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd:

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/15584628

Owned by Chiron Sports Group AG. Redwood Capital is, I believe, a Scottish investment vehicle, but the name is generic so I may be mistaken (and do not know to which article Dirk is referring). No connection.

Well guess this all means it must be imminent now

[Linden Jones' Tash]

Is the inference of the changes recorded on Friday that Chiron aren't going to be involved?

[Ascotexgunner]

Couhig jumps out from the wings onto the stage wearing full kit oxf*rd and shouts "I bought you!"

Limbs and beer everywhere.

Followed by "and unfortunately the club financially isn't viable and we will be merging with Wycombe"...

God, you have to shit on absolutely everything don't you, you sad sack bastard.

Yes.....it tends to bring people back to the real shitty world and protects them from getting too carried away.

[MouldyRoyal]

Is the inference of the changes recorded on Friday that Chiron aren't going to be involved?

I think it is the opposite, confirmation that Chiron is involved with Couhig (who has replaced Rifkind).

[Linden Jones' Tash]

Is the inference of the changes recorded on Friday that Chiron aren't going to be involved?

I think it is the opposite, confirmation that Chiron is involved with Couhig (who has replaced Rifkind).

I'm being dense - how do we know both Chiron and Couhig are involved?

Redwood holdings 1 just has Couhig and his buddies as listed now...

[Clyde1998]

Is the inference of the changes recorded on Friday that Chiron aren't going to be involved?

I think it is the opposite, confirmation that Chiron is involved with Couhig (who has replaced Rifkind).

I'm being dense - how do we know both Chiron and Couhig are involved?

Redwood holdings 1 just has Couhig and his buddies as listed now...

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

[Stranded]

I think it is the opposite, confirmation that Chiron is involved with Couhig (who has replaced Rifkind).

I'm being dense - how do we know both Chiron and Couhig are involved?

Redwood holdings 1 just has Couhig and his buddies as listed now...

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

This certainly seems to be the case, Chiron are the money, Couhig is the face (and probably some money). Rifkind will likely still be involved via Chiron but is not a person of significant control of Redwood who will be the owners. So unless, Couhig has bought out Chiron from Redwood we will be run sustainably but with access to some pretty deep pockets if required.

Am I correct that if Chiron had sold the 3m shares they hold in Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd, this would have had to be noted on Companies House? I don't see this anywhere.

[scumbag]

I'm being dense - how do we know both Chiron and Couhig are involved?

Redwood holdings 1 just has Couhig and his buddies as listed now...

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

This certainly seems to be the case, Chiron are the money, Couhig is the face (and probably some money). Rifkind will likely still be involved via Chiron but is not a person of significant control of Redwood who will be the owners. So unless, Couhig has bought out Chiron from Redwood we will be run sustainably but with access to some pretty deep pockets if required.

Am I correct that if Chiron had sold the 3m shares they hold in Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd, this would have had to be noted on Companies House? I don't see this anywhere.

Couhig by all accounts doesn't have enough money to run/own us. He'll be the face of the consortium in my opinion.

[Stranded]

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

This certainly seems to be the case, Chiron are the money, Couhig is the face (and probably some money). Rifkind will likely still be involved via Chiron but is not a person of significant control of Redwood who will be the owners. So unless, Couhig has bought out Chiron from Redwood we will be run sustainably but with access to some pretty deep pockets if required.

Am I correct that if Chiron had sold the 3m shares they hold in Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd, this would have had to be noted on Companies House? I don't see this anywhere.

Couhig by all accounts doesn't have enough money to run/own us. He'll be the face of the consortium in my opinion.

If the ownership model is as it looks, that is a definite.

[MouldyRoyal]

I'm being dense - how do we know both Chiron and Couhig are involved?

Redwood holdings 1 just has Couhig and his buddies as listed now...

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

This certainly seems to be the case, Chiron are the money, Couhig is the face (and probably some money). Rifkind will likely still be involved via Chiron but is not a person of significant control of Redwood who will be the owners. So unless, Couhig has bought out Chiron from Redwood we will be run sustainably but with access to some pretty deep pockets if required.

Am I correct that if Chiron had sold the 3m shares they hold in Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd, this would have had to be noted on Companies House? I don't see this anywhere.

Yes it would go on Companies House but not straight away. Therefore there is a chance that Chiron no longer owns Redwood Holdings 1 at this point in time, with this potentially being owned by a Couhig related holding company, but that doesn't make commercial sense imo.

If Couhig's consortium had replaced Chiron, then why would they buy out Chiron from an entity that doesn't yet own RFC? The only connection between RFC and Redwood is that RFC owes Redwood money. But still, buying out this entity first is simply buying the club with extra steps. If the two are separate, the more likely and simpler route is that Couhig would have his own SPV that buys the club and repays the debt to Redwood.

As such, it feels a safe conclusion to infer that Couhig is involved in the Chiron consortium now.

[Crusader Royal]

This certainly seems to be the case, Chiron are the money, Couhig is the face (and probably some money). Rifkind will likely still be involved via Chiron but is not a person of significant control of Redwood who will be the owners. So unless, Couhig has bought out Chiron from Redwood we will be run sustainably but with access to some pretty deep pockets if required.

Am I correct that if Chiron had sold the 3m shares they hold in Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd, this would have had to be noted on Companies House? I don't see this anywhere.

Couhig by all accounts doesn't have enough money to run/own us. He'll be the face of the consortium in my opinion.

If the ownership model is as it looks, that is a definite.

He must be more than the face, he must be an investor too. What would be the point of him simply being the front man ?

[Sutekh]

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

This certainly seems to be the case, Chiron are the money, Couhig is the face (and probably some money). Rifkind will likely still be involved via Chiron but is not a person of significant control of Redwood who will be the owners. So unless, Couhig has bought out Chiron from Redwood we will be run sustainably but with access to some pretty deep pockets if required.

Am I correct that if Chiron had sold the 3m shares they hold in Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd, this would have had to be noted on Companies House? I don't see this anywhere.

Couhig by all accounts doesn't have enough money to run/own us. He'll be the face of the consortium in my opinion.

Didn't his son (Peter) run the day to day things at Wycombe at some point?

[blythspartan]

Couhig by all accounts doesn't have enough money to run/own us. He'll be the face of the consortium in my opinion.

If the ownership model is as it looks, that is a definite.

He must be more than the face, he must be an investor too. What would be the point of him simply being the front man ?

This has been mentioned earlier in this thread and is more wishful thinking, but I wonder if John Textor is involved at all. I don’t think he’s sold his shares in Palace yet which could be causing a delay. I am sure he’d want a bigger club than us, but it was only 2 weeks ago that he said he was close to owning 80% of another English club. I don’t think that’s Everton or Sheff U.