by From Despair To Where? » 27 Aug 2024 11:59
by WestYorksRoyal » 27 Aug 2024 12:19
From Despair To Where? The club knew it was going to happen but realistically there was absolutely oxf*rd all could do to stop it so the best course of action was to let it happen and manage the situation as it evolved. I doubt the ball being kicked at the Port Vale assistant manager was intentional or targeted.
The charge is fair enough but everyone knows that the issue goes away when Dia finally fcuks off. The FA have to be seen to be sanctioning the club and I think they've made a sensible and pragmatic decision.
by Forbury Lion » 27 Aug 2024 13:05
How about ask the FA to issue clear instructions detailing everything they should do/ what measures should be in place to avoid it, then stick 100% to that and then if it still happens, the FA can't accuse you of not doing enough.WestYorksRoyalFrom Despair To Where? The club knew it was going to happen but realistically there was absolutely oxf*rd all could do to stop it so the best course of action was to let it happen and manage the situation as it evolved. I doubt the ball being kicked at the Port Vale assistant manager was intentional or targeted.
The charge is fair enough but everyone knows that the issue goes away when Dia finally fcuks off. The FA have to be seen to be sanctioning the club and I think they've made a sensible and pragmatic decision.
What can a club reasonably do to stop an invasion? If just 10% of fans run on, stewards and police have no chance.
by Snowflake Royal » 27 Aug 2024 15:02
Forbury LionHow about ask the FA to issue clear instructions detailing everything they should do/ what measures should be in place to avoid it, then stick 100% to that and then if it still happens, the FA can't accuse you of not doing enough.WestYorksRoyalFrom Despair To Where? The club knew it was going to happen but realistically there was absolutely oxf*rd all could do to stop it so the best course of action was to let it happen and manage the situation as it evolved. I doubt the ball being kicked at the Port Vale assistant manager was intentional or targeted.
The charge is fair enough but everyone knows that the issue goes away when Dia finally fcuks off. The FA have to be seen to be sanctioning the club and I think they've made a sensible and pragmatic decision.
What can a club reasonably do to stop an invasion? If just 10% of fans run on, stewards and police have no chance.
by Armadillo Roadkill » 27 Aug 2024 15:56
Snowflake RoyalForbury LionHow about ask the FA to issue clear instructions detailing everything they should do/ what measures should be in place to avoid it, then stick 100% to that and then if it still happens, the FA can't accuse you of not doing enough.WestYorksRoyal What can a club reasonably do to stop an invasion? If just 10% of fans run on, stewards and police have no chance.
You've not dealt with a regulator have you.
by The Royal Forester » 27 Aug 2024 16:05
by Linden Jones' Tash » 27 Aug 2024 16:31
The Royal Forester Will Dai pay the fine before, or if, he goes? But he will pocket any incoming transfer fees this week though. Leaving Couhig to pay the fine, IIF or when the deal is done.
by Snowflake Royal » 27 Aug 2024 17:28
Armadillo RoadkillSnowflake RoyalForbury Lion How about ask the FA to issue clear instructions detailing everything they should do/ what measures should be in place to avoid it, then stick 100% to that and then if it still happens, the FA can't accuse you of not doing enough.
You've not dealt with a regulator have you.
I have. Ofcom. Quite a few times.
They provide high level guidelines for some things that aren't too critical to customer rights or safety. They then tend to be pretty reasonable in negotiating outcomes when there is a problem. An example might be allocation of geographic dialling codes to land lines.
Other things have very detailed regulations and rules. Like, for example, billing accuracy. Get that wrong and there's no ambiguity - you're in BIG trouble.
So Forbs's suggestion is not at all ridiculous, although I would say that enforcing ground regulations is pretty firmly the responsibility of the club, not the EFL / FA.
by Clyde1998 » 28 Aug 2024 02:48
WestYorksRoyalFrom Despair To Where? The club knew it was going to happen but realistically there was absolutely oxf*rd all could do to stop it so the best course of action was to let it happen and manage the situation as it evolved. I doubt the ball being kicked at the Port Vale assistant manager was intentional or targeted.
The charge is fair enough but everyone knows that the issue goes away when Dia finally fcuks off. The FA have to be seen to be sanctioning the club and I think they've made a sensible and pragmatic decision.
What can a club reasonably do to stop an invasion? If just 10% of fans run on, stewards and police have no chance.
26.
vi. At no point during the incident when RFC’s supporters entered the pitch did TVP consider intervening as the Incident was a peaceful protest without any violence or disorder;
viii. RFC has no control over what actions or decisions are taken by TVP officers when they are on duty at any match. Therefore any criticism which Mr. Conniford has regarding TVP should not be attributed to RFC which is in no position to give orders to experienced police officers;
by PieEater » 28 Aug 2024 12:42
by Crusader Royal » 28 Aug 2024 14:44
PieEater I thought I heard that the club hadn't paid the bill for TVP so they only sent the legal minimum cover. So no chance of them stopping anything,
by Forbury Lion » 02 Sep 2024 13:12
The police are not there to stop trespassing, especially a peaceful protest. That's a civil matter, so completely different to breaking into a house.From Despair To Where? The personal who complied the initial report basically asks 'why didn't the club have more stewards and utilise the police on site?' It's a case of if someone is determined to break into your house, you can't reasonably stop it. If 1,000 people are determined to get onto the pitch, you can't stop it - at least not without creating a much more volatile situation and without causing serious injuries.
by From Despair To Where? » 02 Sep 2024 13:18
Forbury LionThe police are not there to stop trespassing, especially a peaceful protest. That's a civil matter, so completely different to breaking into a house.From Despair To Where? The personal who complied the initial report basically asks 'why didn't the club have more stewards and utilise the police on site?' It's a case of if someone is determined to break into your house, you can't reasonably stop it. If 1,000 people are determined to get onto the pitch, you can't stop it - at least not without creating a much more volatile situation and without causing serious injuries.
If they thought there would be violence of a thread to property then maybe they would have taken action. People just standing together in the middle of a football pitch isn't a criminal matter.
by rabidbee » 02 Sep 2024 13:23
Forbury LionThe police are not there to stop trespassing, especially a peaceful protest. That's a civil matter, so completely different to breaking into a house.From Despair To Where? The personal who complied the initial report basically asks 'why didn't the club have more stewards and utilise the police on site?' It's a case of if someone is determined to break into your house, you can't reasonably stop it. If 1,000 people are determined to get onto the pitch, you can't stop it - at least not without creating a much more volatile situation and without causing serious injuries.
The Football (Offences) Act 1991, section 4 It is an offence for a person at a designated football match to go onto the playing area, or any area adjacent to the playing area to which spectators are not generally admitted, without lawful authority or lawful excuse (which shall be for him to prove).
by Brogue » 16 Sep 2024 14:09
by Snowflake Royal » 16 Sep 2024 18:02
by WestYorksRoyal » 19 Sep 2024 19:01
by Mid Sussex Royal » 19 Sep 2024 19:10
WestYorksRoyal I wonder what the situation with the financial statements are. If you take too long, you get a letter from the government threatening legal action against the directors.
by Forbury Lion » 20 Sep 2024 10:45
Mid Sussex RoyalWestYorksRoyal I wonder what the situation with the financial statements are. If you take too long, you get a letter from the government threatening legal action against the directors.
Doesn't seem to have been asked by anyone at the press conf.
by Mid Sussex Royal » 20 Sep 2024 11:41
Forbury LionMid Sussex RoyalWestYorksRoyal I wonder what the situation with the financial statements are. If you take too long, you get a letter from the government threatening legal action against the directors.
Doesn't seem to have been asked by anyone at the press conf.
You have 9 months to file your accounts from the date of your financial year end, For most football clubs that's end of June.
Most clubs take as long as possible.
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