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Re: TAKEOVER - TODAY COULD BE THE DAY! (or not?)

by morganb » 20 Sep 2024 12:59

morganb The day that Rob Couhig becomes this Forum's "newest member" is the day the takeover will happen (Do you think he even knows that Hobnob exists?)


Someone registered as "Rob Couhig" on 6 September

memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=59788

and is showing as our newest member:

index.php

Unfortunately the takeover didn't happen so I was wrong - apologies

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by Pepe the Horseman » 20 Sep 2024 13:07

Snowflake Royal So far Dai has torpedoed deals with:
Genevra
Loitz
Chiron
Couhig and Redwood.

It is never happening, we're a dead club walking and groaning like a zombie.

Hold your own in the situation.
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Cause I won't hurt you or leave you a loose end.
You make me alive enough to love again.

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Re: TAKEOVER - TODAY COULD BE THE DAY! (or not?)

by Pepe the Horseman » 20 Sep 2024 13:08

morganb
morganb The day that Rob Couhig becomes this Forum's "newest member" is the day the takeover will happen (Do you think he even knows that Hobnob exists?)


Someone registered as "Rob Couhig" on 6 September

https://www.royals.org/forum/memberlist ... le&u=59788

and is showing as our newest member:

https://www.royals.org/forum/index.php

Unfortunately the takeover didn't happen so I was wrong - apologies

So it was actually the HNA mods that fcuked the deal up

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by WestYorksRoyal » 20 Sep 2024 13:27

SouthDownsRoyal The notion that dai wants lots of strings attached IF we get back to the prem etc he gets X% back does sound a plausible to a point but How many months has this been dragging on for?

And only now dai realised couhig isn’t a multi billionaire or wealthy Hollywood celeb Ready to spend whatever it takes to get RFC into the champions league? :lol:

Wasn't there a Saudi/US consortium offering more money than Couhig? They sound more likely to bet big on promotion like Dai. It was probably different stakeholders with different expectations.

Howe mentioned senior club members interviewed potential buyers, and they probably felt that Couhig had the experience to bring the stability we needed plus we was well liked at Wycombe. And was always going to get through the EFL checks. So he was put forward to Dai, but there was an expectations gap.

Dai wanted someone who could promise big bucks and ambitious. Of course he is wrong; he'll probably get a guy who can talk a good game who the EFL are skeptical on and who may be capable of spending big money but are more likely to have their pants pulled down by agents than take us back up the leagues. Seriously ambitious, competent people are likely to be put off by Dai's conduct and asking price.

The club want a steady pair of hands, but Dai wants to sell to another gambler.

Why didn't Couhig just lie to Dai? Say we'll be Premier League in 3 years.

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by El Diablo » 20 Sep 2024 14:04

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SouthDownsRoyal The notion that dai wants lots of strings attached IF we get back to the prem etc he gets X% back does sound a plausible to a point but How many months has this been dragging on for?

And only now dai realised couhig isn’t a multi billionaire or wealthy Hollywood celeb Ready to spend whatever it takes to get RFC into the champions league? :lol:

Wasn't there a Saudi/US consortium offering more money than Couhig? They sound more likely to bet big on promotion like Dai. It was probably different stakeholders with different expectations.

Howe mentioned senior club members interviewed potential buyers, and they probably felt that Couhig had the experience to bring the stability we needed plus we was well liked at Wycombe. And was always going to get through the EFL checks. So he was put forward to Dai, but there was an expectations gap.

Dai wanted someone who could promise big bucks and ambitious. Of course he is wrong; he'll probably get a guy who can talk a good game who the EFL are skeptical on and who may be capable of spending big money but are more likely to have their pants pulled down by agents than take us back up the leagues. Seriously ambitious, competent people are likely to be put off by Dai's conduct and asking price.

The club want a steady pair of hands, but Dai wants to sell to another gambler.

Why didn't Couhig just lie to Dai? Say we'll be Premier League in 3 years.


Let it go Man. We're not the first to be oxf*rd over by him. Quite likely not the last.


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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by katweslowski » 20 Sep 2024 14:14

It demonstrates how dire our situation is that I'd take another gamble at this moment in time. It feels like we're drowning and we need a new start and it's not ideal if we get another unknown entity but if it means we surive for 1/2/3 more years then fine.

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by PieEater » 20 Sep 2024 14:31

It sounds Dai wanted to sell to someone who would let him keep control or at least reap some reward from a new buyers efforts. No chance of that.

Once you sell you need to walk away. It also doesn't stack up with him wanting to sell the training ground.

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by Greatwesternline » 20 Sep 2024 14:45

PieEater It sounds Dai wanted to sell to someone who would let him keep control or at least reap some reward from a new buyers efforts. No chance of that.

Once you sell you need to walk away. It also doesn't stack up with him wanting to sell the training ground.


He's seen transfer sell on clauses (which always strike me as a bit of an oddity accounting wise) and he's thought i fancy a piece of that pie for my business transactions.

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by PieEater » 20 Sep 2024 15:01

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PieEater It sounds Dai wanted to sell to someone who would let him keep control or at least reap some reward from a new buyers efforts. No chance of that.

Once you sell you need to walk away. It also doesn't stack up with him wanting to sell the training ground.


He's seen transfer sell on clauses (which always strike me as a bit of an oddity accounting wise) and he's thought i fancy a piece of that pie for my business transactions.


Yeah but sell on clauses go to the club, not the (former) owner. And as Howe found out, any third party payments are illegal.

It's more likely he wanted some Premier League promotion kickback.


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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by karbota » 20 Sep 2024 16:12

PieEater It sounds Dai wanted to sell to someone who would let him keep control or at least reap some reward from a new buyers efforts. No chance of that.

Once you sell you need to walk away. It also doesn't stack up with him wanting to sell the training ground.


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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 20 Sep 2024 17:44

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PieEater It sounds Dai wanted to sell to someone who would let him keep control or at least reap some reward from a new buyers efforts. No chance of that.

Once you sell you need to walk away. It also doesn't stack up with him wanting to sell the training ground.


He's seen transfer sell on clauses (which always strike me as a bit of an oddity accounting wise) and he's thought i fancy a piece of that pie for my business transactions.


Yeah but sell on clauses go to the club, not the (former) owner. And as Howe found out, any third party payments are illegal.

It's more likely he wanted some Premier League promotion kickback.


I recall SJM had a clause where he got more from Zingarevich when RFC were promoted the season he sold the club. That was a post-sale clause, so they can happen (though in this case SJM had only received half the cash anyway and we all know what happened when the rest was due).

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by Vision » 20 Sep 2024 19:05

Pepe the Horseman
Snowflake Royal So far Dai has torpedoed deals with:
Genevra
Loitz
Chiron
Couhig and Redwood.

It is never happening, we're a dead club walking and groaning like a zombie.

Hold your own in the situation.
Don't be afraid to be a friend.
Cause I won't hurt you or leave you a loose end.
You make me alive enough to love again.


A bit niche but it earned a smile from this fellow Royal exiled in the US.

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by WestYorksRoyal » 20 Sep 2024 20:35

Would recommend the latest 1871 podcast, much more perspective and a break from conspiracy theories and doom mongering. Dellor certainly backs up the theory that Couhig never matched Dai's expectations, though it begs the question how he progressed so far.

I certainly felt more positive after listening.


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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by Pepe the Horseman » 20 Sep 2024 20:43

Vision
Pepe the Horseman
Snowflake Royal So far Dai has torpedoed deals with:
Genevra
Loitz
Chiron
Couhig and Redwood.

It is never happening, we're a dead club walking and groaning like a zombie.

Hold your own in the situation.
Don't be afraid to be a friend.
Cause I won't hurt you or leave you a loose end.
You make me alive enough to love again.


A bit niche but it earned a smile from this fellow Royal exiled in the US.

'preciate you. Remind me, where are you? Are we going to meet up for the playoff final?

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by Sutekh » 20 Sep 2024 22:54

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He's seen transfer sell on clauses (which always strike me as a bit of an oddity accounting wise) and he's thought i fancy a piece of that pie for my business transactions.


Yeah but sell on clauses go to the club, not the (former) owner. And as Howe found out, any third party payments are illegal.

It's more likely he wanted some Premier League promotion kickback.


I recall SJM had a clause where he got more from Zingarevich when RFC were promoted the season he sold the club. That was a post-sale clause, so they can happen (though in this case SJM had only received half the cash anyway and we all know what happened when the rest was due).


Still find it hard to believe how SJM was unable to find any buyer/interest for a PL or PL challenging football club during his latter time as owner and all he could get was a totally potless Russian. If only he'd got that bit right we might still have a car park and not have a wazack for an owner.

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by Lower West » 21 Sep 2024 11:52

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Yeah but sell on clauses go to the club, not the (former) owner. And as Howe found out, any third party payments are illegal.

It's more likely he wanted some Premier League promotion kickback.


I recall SJM had a clause where he got more from Zingarevich when RFC were promoted the season he sold the club. That was a post-sale clause, so they can happen (though in this case SJM had only received half the cash anyway and we all know what happened when the rest was due).


Still find it hard to believe how SJM was unable to find any buyer/interest for a PL or PL challenging football club during his latter time as owner and all he could get was a totally potless Russian. If only he'd got that bit right we might still have a car park and not have a wazack for an owner.


Chelsea did alright. Though they did lose £900, 000 a week during Abramovich's reign. Also spent £90 million terminating managers contracts early.

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by Sutekh » 21 Sep 2024 11:57

I see Mr Storey has been heard again on the X, and getting it in the neck after his ill timed remark.

https://x.com/richenergyceo/status/1836 ... e-claim%2F

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by Orion1871 » 21 Sep 2024 12:07

karbota
PieEater It sounds Dai wanted to sell to someone who would let him keep control or at least reap some reward from a new buyers efforts. No chance of that.

Once you sell you need to walk away. It also doesn't stack up with him wanting to sell the training ground.


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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by Armadillo Roadkill » 21 Sep 2024 12:35

WestYorksRoyal Would recommend the latest 1871 podcast, much more perspective and a break from conspiracy theories and doom mongering. Dellor certainly backs up the theory that Couhig never matched Dai's expectations, though it begs the question how he progressed so far.

I certainly felt more positive after listening.


The interview with Tim was really good - and like you say, it seems Dai is more involved in the process than we had assumed, Couhig not as blameless as we all perhaps thought, and we might even have dodged a bullet.

If Dai can fund the club with no more missed deadlines / wages and find a credible buyer with the funds to take the club forward, we will perhaps look back at him a bit more kindly in future years.

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Re: CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

by Lower West » 21 Sep 2024 13:44

Armadillo Roadkill
WestYorksRoyal Would recommend the latest 1871 podcast, much more perspective and a break from conspiracy theories and doom mongering. Dellor certainly backs up the theory that Couhig never matched Dai's expectations, though it begs the question how he progressed so far.

I certainly felt more positive after listening.


The interview with Tim was really good - and like you say, it seems Dai is more involved in the process than we had assumed, Couhig not as blameless as we all perhaps thought, and we might even have dodged a bullet.

If Dai can fund the club with no more missed deadlines / wages and find a credible buyer with the funds to take the club forward, we will perhaps look back at him a bit more kindly in future years.


What's Dai funding the club with though? Highly likely his remaining assets are frozen.

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