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Re: The generic transfer thread

by BRO_BOT » 01 Sep 2024 16:39

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Don't fret-take a look at the squad which has decent cover in all positions and the club took the view that there was no point in buying anybody unless the team were greatly improved.

City have only brought in 2 players, one of which was the returning Gundogan whereas all the others have gone a bit crazy.

One big part of management is keeping players happy and when a number of new players come in it can disrupt matters (e.g. greedy bastard I need to be loved and live in London Sterling going to Arsenal) -there is a lot to be said for a settled squad, especially if that squad is already very good.


If Klopp had been there, I'd expect that team to take a run at the title. They would have needed a few additions to stop them from running out of steam at the back end of the season. Probably would have fallen short against the City juggernaut

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Winston Biscuit » 02 Sep 2024 23:05

Osimhen on loan to Galatasaray. Napoli have handled this whole thing shambolically and are paying the price.

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Sanguine » 03 Sep 2024 10:28

Winston Biscuit Osimhen on loan to Galatasaray. Napoli have handled this whole thing shambolically and are paying the price.


Is the problem not Osimhen's obscene wage demands?

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Winston Biscuit » 03 Sep 2024 10:52

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Is the problem not Osimhen's obscene wage demands?


Napoli over valuing him and refusing to accept any sensible offers after his great season, demanding he could only go for €150M, while at the same time the money was falling out of the arse of the football world (bar a few clubs in the PL). they were so keen to make sure they got a jackpot amount that they gave him a new contract which had a release clause reportedly between €130M - €150M, and to get him to sign it they upped his wages to a number north of €200,000 a week.

He then goes on to have an ok season, but a bit stop start with games missed due to injury, as the team struggle, yet Napoli are still saying they want €150M for him.

Saudi team reportedly offered €120M for him just recently but he turns it down as he wants to stay in Europe. Napoli get pissed off and don't register him in their squad for the 24/25 season, presumably in the hope that he goes back and takes the Saudi offer as their transfer window is still open, he still refuses and says he will sit in the reserves for the season, knowing that will further drive down his price. In the end they agree a loan deal to Galatasaray and he has apparently negotiated with Napoli that they will now accept €75M to let him go, which is less than they paid for him when they signed him.

tldr - they had a valuable asset which they could have cashed in on but got greedy and hung on hoping to drive the price up, but all the while they were doing that, people were losing interest and his value was going down

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Winston Biscuit » 05 Sep 2024 12:43

Reported in L'Equipe that Lyon's 20 year old Ghanaian winger Ernest Muamah was sent over to London to join Fulham for €19M against his wishes on deadline day, and was in tears throughout the day telling Lyon he didn't want to leave. Getting towards the end of his Fulham medical and he just up and left, walked out and no one knew where he went or was able to reach him, including his agent. This meant the deal collapsed.

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what a way to treat someone


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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Sanguine » 05 Sep 2024 12:44

Bizarre story coming out of the end of the transfer window.

Ernest Nuamah, a 20-year-old winger at Lyon was set to sign for Fulham but was in 'floods of tears' during his medical because he didn’t want to leave the French club, and felt he was being forced out against his will.

He started undergoing his medical but fled and vanished before the final stage could be completed, with no one, not even his agent, able to locate him, meaning the move had to be abandoned altogether. That left Lyon owner John Textor penning a formal apology to Fulham over the way things had gone.

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Sanguine » 05 Sep 2024 12:45

Ah, snap!

Player now back at the club and the owner says that he has 'restored relations' with him, and he will be integrated back into the squad.

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Winston Biscuit » 06 Sep 2024 13:50

I missed Wilfried Zaha joining Lyon

apparently done for tax reasons as him moving back to the UK from Turkey would have meant he was liable for tax in both, same as why Jordan Henderson went to the Netherlands rather than back here

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Stranded » 11 Sep 2024 08:35

Victor Moses returns to English football signing for Luton.


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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Winston Biscuit » 11 Sep 2024 08:48

Greg Halford to Blyth Spartans in the 7th tier (in a relegation battle by the looks of it)

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Sutekh » 11 Sep 2024 08:49

Stranded Victor Moses returns to English football signing for Luton.


Is he still alive? Thought he'd retired years ago!

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Winston Biscuit » 11 Sep 2024 08:57

didn't realise he had spent the past 4 seasons playing in Russia

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Pepe the Horseman » 13 Sep 2024 16:00

Missed this, but Memphis Depay has joined Jamal Lewis in Brazil, signing for Corinthians.


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Re: The generic transfer thread

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Winston Biscuit » 02 Oct 2024 14:39

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Pls can you summarize x


Currently FIFA rules say any player who terminates their contract 'without just cause' will owe the club compensation, and to further encourage this to not happen their rules also say any club that signs a player who has terminated their contract elsewhere 'without just cause', will have to share said compensation cost, and further still the rules say while this situation remains, the club the player just walked out on is fine to hold on to the players registration document so that any new club that does go ahead and sign someone in that situation then can't register them to play.

This happened to Diarra when he walked out on Lokomotiv Moscow after they decided to lower his wages without his approval. He told them to do one and walked out on them. He went to FIFA and put in a claim for all his unpaid wages to the end of his contract. Locomotiv Moscow then put in a claim with FIFA against Diarra saying he left 'without just cause' and he owes them compensation.

FIFA backed the club and Diarra was told to pay them €10.5M.

Charleroi in Belgium contacted Diarra and said they wanted to sign him. They then contacted FIFA to ask for clearance to sign him. FIFA said no.

Diarra has taken FIFA & Belgian FA to court over this and he won, with Diarra being awarded €6M damages from those 2 parties.

FIFA & Belgium FA appealed this to the EU Court Of Justice, and the decision will be announced on Friday over whether Fifa's decision was in line with EU articles 45 (freedom of movement of workers) and 101 (prohibition of cartels)

Legal folk are suggesting FIFA will lose.

Knock on effect, if FIFA regulations are not changed, are that players can just walk out on contracts at any point, for any reason they want (being offered more money elsewhere being the obv example) and the football authorities won't be able to stop them moving clubs and being registered by those new clubs

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Re: The generic transfer thread

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Pls can you summarize x


Currently FIFA rules say any player who terminates their contract 'without just cause' will owe the club compensation, and to further encourage this to not happen their rules also say any club that signs a player who has terminated their contract elsewhere 'without just cause', will have to share said compensation cost, and further still the rules say while this situation remains, the club the player just walked out on is fine to hold on to the players registration document so that any new club that does go ahead and sign someone in that situation then can't register them to play.

This happened to Diarra when he walked out on Lokomotiv Moscow after they decided to lower his wages without his approval. He told them to do one and walked out on them. He went to FIFA and put in a claim for all his unpaid wages to the end of his contract. Locomotiv Moscow then put in a claim with FIFA against Diarra saying he left 'without just cause' and he owes them compensation.

FIFA backed the club and Diarra was told to pay them €10.5M.

Charleroi in Belgium contacted Diarra and said they wanted to sign him. They then contacted FIFA to ask for clearance to sign him. FIFA said no.

Diarra has taken FIFA & Belgian FA to court over this and he won, with Diarra being awarded €6M damages from those 2 parties.

FIFA & Belgium FA appealed this to the EU Court Of Justice, and the decision will be announced on Friday over whether Fifa's decision was in line with EU articles 45 (freedom of movement of workers) and 101 (prohibition of cartels)

Legal folk are suggesting FIFA will lose.

Knock on effect, if FIFA regulations are not changed, are that players can just walk out on contracts at any point, for any reason they want (being offered more money elsewhere being the obv example) and the football authorities won't be able to stop them moving clubs and being registered by those new clubs

Ok, so this will fcuk the game up even more? Surely it gets thrown out.

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Winston Biscuit » 02 Oct 2024 15:04

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Pepe the Horseman Pls can you summarize x


Currently FIFA rules say any player who terminates their contract 'without just cause' will owe the club compensation, and to further encourage this to not happen their rules also say any club that signs a player who has terminated their contract elsewhere 'without just cause', will have to share said compensation cost, and further still the rules say while this situation remains, the club the player just walked out on is fine to hold on to the players registration document so that any new club that does go ahead and sign someone in that situation then can't register them to play.

This happened to Diarra when he walked out on Lokomotiv Moscow after they decided to lower his wages without his approval. He told them to do one and walked out on them. He went to FIFA and put in a claim for all his unpaid wages to the end of his contract. Locomotiv Moscow then put in a claim with FIFA against Diarra saying he left 'without just cause' and he owes them compensation.

FIFA backed the club and Diarra was told to pay them €10.5M.

Charleroi in Belgium contacted Diarra and said they wanted to sign him. They then contacted FIFA to ask for clearance to sign him. FIFA said no.

Diarra has taken FIFA & Belgian FA to court over this and he won, with Diarra being awarded €6M damages from those 2 parties.

FIFA & Belgium FA appealed this to the EU Court Of Justice, and the decision will be announced on Friday over whether Fifa's decision was in line with EU articles 45 (freedom of movement of workers) and 101 (prohibition of cartels)

Legal folk are suggesting FIFA will lose.

Knock on effect, if FIFA regulations are not changed, are that players can just walk out on contracts at any point, for any reason they want (being offered more money elsewhere being the obv example) and the football authorities won't be able to stop them moving clubs and being registered by those new clubs

Ok, so this will fcuk the game up even more? Surely it gets thrown out.


Been searching the WWW's for alternative takes on and it, and i keep seeing it said Fifa are likely to lose and players will then be able to move clubs mid contract if that's what they want.

I assume it just means contracts could change to help somehow protect the clubs more. Or we could just move to a pay as you play model?!

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by BRO_BOT » 02 Oct 2024 15:09

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Pls can you summarize x


Currently FIFA rules say any player who terminates their contract 'without just cause' will owe the club compensation, and to further encourage this to not happen their rules also say any club that signs a player who has terminated their contract elsewhere 'without just cause', will have to share said compensation cost, and further still the rules say while this situation remains, the club the player just walked out on is fine to hold on to the players registration document so that any new club that does go ahead and sign someone in that situation then can't register them to play.

This happened to Diarra when he walked out on Lokomotiv Moscow after they decided to lower his wages without his approval. He told them to do one and walked out on them. He went to FIFA and put in a claim for all his unpaid wages to the end of his contract. Locomotiv Moscow then put in a claim with FIFA against Diarra saying he left 'without just cause' and he owes them compensation.

FIFA backed the club and Diarra was told to pay them €10.5M.

Charleroi in Belgium contacted Diarra and said they wanted to sign him. They then contacted FIFA to ask for clearance to sign him. FIFA said no.

Diarra has taken FIFA & Belgian FA to court over this and he won, with Diarra being awarded €6M damages from those 2 parties.

FIFA & Belgium FA appealed this to the EU Court Of Justice, and the decision will be announced on Friday over whether Fifa's decision was in line with EU articles 45 (freedom of movement of workers) and 101 (prohibition of cartels)

Legal folk are suggesting FIFA will lose.

Knock on effect, if FIFA regulations are not changed, are that players can just walk out on contracts at any point, for any reason they want (being offered more money elsewhere being the obv example) and the football authorities won't be able to stop them moving clubs and being registered by those new clubs


tldr...can you summarize please

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Re: The generic transfer thread

by Winston Biscuit » 02 Oct 2024 15:13

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Pepe the Horseman Pls can you summarize x


Currently FIFA rules say any player who terminates their contract 'without just cause' will owe the club compensation, and to further encourage this to not happen their rules also say any club that signs a player who has terminated their contract elsewhere 'without just cause', will have to share said compensation cost, and further still the rules say while this situation remains, the club the player just walked out on is fine to hold on to the players registration document so that any new club that does go ahead and sign someone in that situation then can't register them to play.

This happened to Diarra when he walked out on Lokomotiv Moscow after they decided to lower his wages without his approval. He told them to do one and walked out on them. He went to FIFA and put in a claim for all his unpaid wages to the end of his contract. Locomotiv Moscow then put in a claim with FIFA against Diarra saying he left 'without just cause' and he owes them compensation.

FIFA backed the club and Diarra was told to pay them €10.5M.

Charleroi in Belgium contacted Diarra and said they wanted to sign him. They then contacted FIFA to ask for clearance to sign him. FIFA said no.

Diarra has taken FIFA & Belgian FA to court over this and he won, with Diarra being awarded €6M damages from those 2 parties.

FIFA & Belgium FA appealed this to the EU Court Of Justice, and the decision will be announced on Friday over whether Fifa's decision was in line with EU articles 45 (freedom of movement of workers) and 101 (prohibition of cartels)

Legal folk are suggesting FIFA will lose.

Knock on effect, if FIFA regulations are not changed, are that players can just walk out on contracts at any point, for any reason they want (being offered more money elsewhere being the obv example) and the football authorities won't be able to stop them moving clubs and being registered by those new clubs


tldr...can you summarize please


Fifa won't let players leave clubs mid contract. A court case verdict on Friday may disagree with them being able to stop that happening and so players may get the right to just walk out on clubs and go join another club any time they want.

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