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Re: CONFRIMED: Latest rumours Confrimed as Unconfrimed

by Forty » 18 Oct 2024 09:00

Here's my conspiracy theory plan. Bring on the flames.

£55 million secured on the stadium by the bank ( or whatever the number is). Clearly worth more than the club is valued at because nobody is paying up, so the bank are being asked to accept a few million in lieu of their big bill. Hmph. They won't be happy.

But Kier and his mob want millions of new houses and accommodation. IF the club can be wiped out - AND the club don't own the stadium, then is there a scenario where the big development comes back into view. The club gets 'administrationed' so Dai get's nothing, and the developers are able to offer the bank much more for their £55million asset than any new football club owner is prepared to. Reading gets its shiny new homes, Dai gets nothing, bank gets more for it's shareholders. That community value protection thing would get quickly erased by the waft of 'wad' being waved at councillors.........

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by Linden Jones' Tash » 18 Oct 2024 09:17

So.... this is all Labour's fault...?

What are you, the Daily Mail?...

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by Forty » 18 Oct 2024 09:50

Linden Jones' Tash So.... this is all Labour's fault...?

What are you, the Daily Mail?...


More the Telegraph, thanks.

Just good maths. 1+1+1=30

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by Hound » 18 Oct 2024 12:57

Not sure it’s a great location for a load of houses tbh. There’s a reason Madejski picked it up cheap. Just don’t think the value of that land would be that high

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by Brogue » 18 Oct 2024 13:02

Would struggle to knock the stadium down also, considering the hotel is actually built into it. And the hotel being owned by a different entity


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by Sutekh » 18 Oct 2024 14:03

Forty Here's my conspiracy theory plan. Bring on the flames.

£55 million secured on the stadium by the bank ( or whatever the number is). Clearly worth more than the club is valued at because nobody is paying up, so the bank are being asked to accept a few million in lieu of their big bill. Hmph. They won't be happy.

But Kier and his mob want millions of new houses and accommodation. IF the club can be wiped out - AND the club don't own the stadium, then is there a scenario where the big development comes back into view. The club gets 'administrationed' so Dai get's nothing, and the developers are able to offer the bank much more for their £55million asset than any new football club owner is prepared to. Reading gets its shiny new homes, Dai gets nothing, bank gets more for it's shareholders. That community value protection thing would get quickly erased by the waft of 'wad' being waved at councillors.........


:lol: Only the dangers and gasses from a former landfill site to worry about then. Even Labour wouldn’t be that retarded.

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by mikey_1871 » 18 Oct 2024 14:09

Yes, land contmination issues makes the stadium site unsuitable for housing.
No way anyone is getting planning permission there!

Wish people would get off this particular unsubstantiated speculation/scaremongering. It is not going to happen.

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by Crusader Royal » 18 Oct 2024 14:15

mikey_1871 Yes, land contmination issues makes the stadium site unsuitable for housing.
No way anyone is getting planning permission there!

Wish people would get off this particular unsubstantiated speculation/scaremongering. It is not going to happen.


REP got planning permission and includes residential elements…..
Doesn’t mean the ‘theory’ isn’t a load of nonsense.

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by Brogue » 18 Oct 2024 14:16

mikey_1871 Yes, land contmination issues makes the stadium site unsuitable for housing.
No way anyone is getting planning permission there!

Wish people would get off this particular unsubstantiated speculation/scaremongering. It is not going to happen.


what about royal elm park development? doesn't seem to be an issue with building houses conference centres hotels and christ know what on the car park...


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by mikey_1871 » 18 Oct 2024 14:51

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mikey_1871 Yes, land contmination issues makes the stadium site unsuitable for housing.
No way anyone is getting planning permission there!

Wish people would get off this particular unsubstantiated speculation/scaremongering. It is not going to happen.


what about royal elm park development? doesn't seem to be an issue with building houses conference centres hotels and christ know what on the car park...


There is less restriction on conference centre etc as people won't be living there.
The residential is located well over to the west of the site where I understand there is less risk.
The remediation from the former landfill site (the release of gas etc) is dealt with within the stadium complex. If you knocked it down then you're going to have to find another way of doing that, and you are not going to be allowed to do that next to residential properties.

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by Hendo » 18 Oct 2024 15:11

Forty Here's my conspiracy theory plan. Bring on the flames.

£55 million secured on the stadium by the bank ( or whatever the number is). Clearly worth more than the club is valued at because nobody is paying up, so the bank are being asked to accept a few million in lieu of their big bill. Hmph. They won't be happy.

But Kier and his mob want millions of new houses and accommodation. IF the club can be wiped out - AND the club don't own the stadium, then is there a scenario where the big development comes back into view. The club gets 'administrationed' so Dai get's nothing, and the developers are able to offer the bank much more for their £55million asset than any new football club owner is prepared to. Reading gets its shiny new homes, Dai gets nothing, bank gets more for it's shareholders. That community value protection thing would get quickly erased by the waft of 'wad' being waved at councillors.........



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Re: CONFRIMED: Latest rumours Confrimed as Unconfrimed

by mikey_1871 » 18 Oct 2024 15:15

Hendo
Forty Here's my conspiracy theory plan. Bring on the flames.

£55 million secured on the stadium by the bank ( or whatever the number is). Clearly worth more than the club is valued at because nobody is paying up, so the bank are being asked to accept a few million in lieu of their big bill. Hmph. They won't be happy.

But Kier and his mob want millions of new houses and accommodation. IF the club can be wiped out - AND the club don't own the stadium, then is there a scenario where the big development comes back into view. The club gets 'administrationed' so Dai get's nothing, and the developers are able to offer the bank much more for their £55million asset than any new football club owner is prepared to. Reading gets its shiny new homes, Dai gets nothing, bank gets more for it's shareholders. That community value protection thing would get quickly erased by the waft of 'wad' being waved at councillors.........




:lol:

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by ham » 18 Oct 2024 16:53

Hendo
Forty Here's my conspiracy theory plan. Bring on the flames.

£55 million secured on the stadium by the bank ( or whatever the number is). Clearly worth more than the club is valued at because nobody is paying up, so the bank are being asked to accept a few million in lieu of their big bill. Hmph. They won't be happy.

But Kier and his mob want millions of new houses and accommodation. IF the club can be wiped out - AND the club don't own the stadium, then is there a scenario where the big development comes back into view. The club gets 'administrationed' so Dai get's nothing, and the developers are able to offer the bank much more for their £55million asset than any new football club owner is prepared to. Reading gets its shiny new homes, Dai gets nothing, bank gets more for it's shareholders. That community value protection thing would get quickly erased by the waft of 'wad' being waved at councillors.........




Yes I welcome this new theory. At least it gives us more people to be angry at than just a stupid little Chinese fukk who loves rolling the dice a bit too much.


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by Crusader Royal » 18 Oct 2024 18:55

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mikey_1871 Yes, land contmination issues makes the stadium site unsuitable for housing.
No way anyone is getting planning permission there!

Wish people would get off this particular unsubstantiated speculation/scaremongering. It is not going to happen.


what about royal elm park development? doesn't seem to be an issue with building houses conference centres hotels and christ know what on the car park...


There is less restriction on conference centre etc as people won't be living there.
The residential is located well over to the west of the site where I understand there is less risk.
The remediation from the former landfill site (the release of gas etc) is dealt with within the stadium complex. If you knocked it down then you're going to have to find another way of doing that, and you are not going to be allowed to do that next to residential properties.


There are pipes for release of methane in the main car park. I don’t think there is any kind of processing of gases done inside the stadium
I suspect more of an issue would be the fact that the ground obviously isn’t stable as you can see by the rather large amount of movement of the paving blocks around the ground.

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by Linden Jones' Tash » 21 Oct 2024 09:18

Interesting piece in this blog about the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE) recently expanding something called the “Detailed emergency planning zone” (DEPZ) around its Burghfield site to include a chunk of South Reading, including the Mad Stad ...

https://readingonthames.com/2024/10/20/ ... an-update/

It implies that all the land around the Stadium is subject to this new expanded DEPZ and therefore AWE basically gets to decide what happens to it - notably in terms of potential housing....

As an non-expert, I have no idea what this means - but its another consideration I would imagine....

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by windermereROYAL » 21 Oct 2024 09:35

Linden Jones' Tash Interesting piece in this blog about the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE) recently expanding something called the “Detailed emergency planning zone” (DEPZ) around its Burghfield site to include a chunk of South Reading, including the Mad Stad ...

https://readingonthames.com/2024/10/20/ ... an-update/

It implies that all the land around the Stadium is subject to this new expanded DEPZ and therefore AWE basically gets to decide what happens to it - notably in terms of potential housing....

As an non-expert, I have no idea what this means - but its another consideration I would imagine....


How long has this town been known as Reading on Thames? yes we know it`s on the river but never seen it called that before.

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by Linden Jones' Tash » 21 Oct 2024 09:44

windermereROYAL
Linden Jones' Tash Interesting piece in this blog about the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE) recently expanding something called the “Detailed emergency planning zone” (DEPZ) around its Burghfield site to include a chunk of South Reading, including the Mad Stad ...

https://readingonthames.com/2024/10/20/ ... an-update/

It implies that all the land around the Stadium is subject to this new expanded DEPZ and therefore AWE basically gets to decide what happens to it - notably in terms of potential housing....

As an non-expert, I have no idea what this means - but its another consideration I would imagine....


How long has this town been known as Reading on Thames? yes we know it`s on the river but never seen it called that before.


It's not, its the name of a blog that curates planning and development stuff from around the town - often mining arcane bureaucratic information and distilling it into easier to understand write ups.

It's not me, btw - but it is a helpful resource when looking at local developments going on

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by Brogue » 21 Oct 2024 09:51

Are the AWE Reading fans?

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by Sutekh » 21 Oct 2024 10:23

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Linden Jones' Tash Interesting piece in this blog about the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE) recently expanding something called the “Detailed emergency planning zone” (DEPZ) around its Burghfield site to include a chunk of South Reading, including the Mad Stad ...

https://readingonthames.com/2024/10/20/ ... an-update/

It implies that all the land around the Stadium is subject to this new expanded DEPZ and therefore AWE basically gets to decide what happens to it - notably in terms of potential housing....

As an non-expert, I have no idea what this means - but its another consideration I would imagine....


How long has this town been known as Reading on Thames? yes we know it`s on the river but never seen it called that before.


It's not, its the name of a blog that curates planning and development stuff from around the town - often mining arcane bureaucratic information and distilling it into easier to understand write ups.

It's not me, btw - but it is a helpful resource when looking at local developments going on


Thank god, worrying to think they might be planning “do a Staines” in an effort to make Reading sound more up market.

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by bcubed » 21 Oct 2024 10:31

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Linden Jones' Tash Interesting piece in this blog about the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE) recently expanding something called the “Detailed emergency planning zone” (DEPZ) around its Burghfield site to include a chunk of South Reading, including the Mad Stad ...

https://readingonthames.com/2024/10/20/ ... an-update/

It implies that all the land around the Stadium is subject to this new expanded DEPZ and therefore AWE basically gets to decide what happens to it - notably in terms of potential housing....

As an non-expert, I have no idea what this means - but its another consideration I would imagine....


How long has this town been known as Reading on Thames? yes we know it`s on the river but never seen it called that before.


It's not, its the name of a blog that curates planning and development stuff from around the town - often mining arcane bureaucratic information and distilling it into easier to understand write ups.

It's not me, btw - but it is a helpful resource when looking at local developments going on


It looks very useful. Getting to grips with Local Plan issues is a job for the most dedicated in the community.

The blogger suggests the council needs to take a tougher line with AWE (when was the R dropped btw?) but once a matter of national security is cited that trumps everything.

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