Scottish premier league.

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Re: Scottish premier league.

by Stranded » 08 Nov 2024 08:33

From Despair To Where? The provisio in Scotland is always do clubs outside the Old Firm have the squad depth to maintain a challenge? Aberdeen have an excellent manager and a decent, well organised squad but I think Celtic will eventually pull away because the have the quality and the depth.

I can see Aberdeen splitting Celtic and Rangers because Rangers look so ponderous and just don't have the money to make significant changes.

They're a bit of a shambles on and off the field at the moment. Their squad is significantly worse than 2 years ago, they're lost more money last year than most of the SPL have as an annual budget and the SFA have just pulled their pants down to the tune of £700k to borrow Hampden for 3 games.


You would think Rangers, having gone bust once, would want to run the club in such a way that the chances of it happening again are slim to none - but apparently not.

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by From Despair To Where? » 08 Nov 2024 09:35

I think one of their big problems is that they're in a constant race to catch Celtic, who are fuelled by regular CL money, and whoever is in charge of recruitment is a fcuking idiot.

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Re: Scottish premier league.

by Clyde1998 » 08 Nov 2024 09:42

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From Despair To Where? The provisio in Scotland is always do clubs outside the Old Firm have the squad depth to maintain a challenge? Aberdeen have an excellent manager and a decent, well organised squad but I think Celtic will eventually pull away because the have the quality and the depth.

I can see Aberdeen splitting Celtic and Rangers because Rangers look so ponderous and just don't have the money to make significant changes.

They're a bit of a shambles on and off the field at the moment. Their squad is significantly worse than 2 years ago, they're lost more money last year than most of the SPL have as an annual budget and the SFA have just pulled their pants down to the tune of £700k to borrow Hampden for 3 games.


You would think Rangers, having gone bust once, would want to run the club in such a way that the chances of it happening again are slim to none - but apparently not.

I think the big issue is Rangers are attempting to compete financially with Celtic, who have Champions League money most seasons. Rangers have also failed to sell players at their peaks and adequately replace players they have sold - they rejected a £15-20m bid for Alfredo Morelos for example.

Realistically, they'll need to use their youth system and be willing to sell players when big bids come in to have any chance of competing financially.

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Re: Scottish premier league.

by From Despair To Where? » 08 Nov 2024 10:10

Yeah, Rangers don't buy very well but they're even worse at selling players.

Celtic on the other hand sell Jota and O'Reilly for £51m (£43m profit) and buy a completely new midfield with about £20m to spare. (They overpaid for Idah though, imo)

It's all cyclical really. Back in the 90s when Rangers were winning everything, Celtic were an absolute shambles off the pitch.

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by Stranded » 08 Nov 2024 12:02

From Despair To Where? Yeah, Rangers don't buy very well but they're even worse at selling players.

Celtic on the other hand sell Jota and O'Reilly for £51m (£43m profit) and buy a completely new midfield with about £20m to spare. (They overpaid for Idah though, imo)

It's all cyclical really. Back in the 90s when Rangers were winning everything, Celtic were an absolute shambles off the pitch.


Oh get it's cyclical and understand the pressure there must be for Rangers to compete with Celtic, but just mildly surprised (well not really) that the current owners of the club would be prepared to lose so much money when the club have already gone bust once. Maybe they enjoyed the climb back up the leagues a little bit too much.


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Re: Scottish premier league.

by From Despair To Where? » 08 Nov 2024 13:26

The rivalry is all consuming and rational doesn't really come into it. No one will be given 2 years to get things right if it means trailing behind Celtic.

Rangers getting dumped down the leagues has just opened a financial chasm between the 2. The new CL format will also help Celtic massively.

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Re: Scottish premier league.

by BRO_BOT » 09 Nov 2024 02:09

From Despair To Where? The rivalry is all consuming and rational doesn't really come into it. No one will be given 2 years to get things right if it means trailing behind Celtic.

Rangers getting dumped down the leagues has just opened a financial chasm between the 2. The new CL format will also help Celtic massively.


Genuinely really dislike Rangers (and their fans!)

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Re: Scottish premier league.

by From Despair To Where? » 09 Nov 2024 09:54

I genuinely dislike both but it's impossible to argue in purely football terms that Celtic aren't currently streets ahead of Rangers both on and off the field. Better run, better players and play better football.


When one dominates, it's usually as much about the other being an utter shambles.


Another ironic thing is, despite being in the Champions League, Celtic arguably have easier remaining European fixtures than Rangers in the Europa League.

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by AthleticoSpizz » 10 Nov 2024 18:29

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From Despair To Where? The rivalry is all consuming and rational doesn't really come into it. No one will be given 2 years to get things right if it means trailing behind Celtic.

Rangers getting dumped down the leagues has just opened a financial chasm between the 2. The new CL format will also help Celtic massively.


Genuinely really dislike Rangers (and their fans!)
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Re: Scottish premier league.

by Winston Biscuit » 13 Nov 2024 08:42

Bonnyrigg Rose in L2 get a 6 point deduction for the slope on their pitch being more than the gradient that is acceptable

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Re: Scottish premier league.

by Sutekh » 13 Nov 2024 08:56

Winston Biscuit Bonnyrigg Rose in L2 get a 6 point deduction for the slope on their pitch being more than the gradient that is acceptable


How were they accepted into the league in the first place if the pitch doesn’t meet their requirements? Or have Bonnyrigg reneged on promises they’d sort it by a specific date? Or have the Scottish league just decided out of the blue that they’re going to pick on them?

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by Sanguine » 13 Nov 2024 09:35

Sutekh Or have Bonnyrigg reneged on promises they’d sort it by a specific date?


The club knew of the issue, but were going to lay down a new artificial surface for community use as well as their league matches, that would have also fixed the problem of the slope, but they didn't get the funding expected.

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Re: Scottish premier league.

by Sutekh » 13 Nov 2024 10:22

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Sutekh Or have Bonnyrigg reneged on promises they’d sort it by a specific date?


The club knew of the issue, but were going to lay down a new artificial surface for community use as well as their league matches, that would have also fixed the problem of the slope, but they didn't get the funding expected.


Thanks. Nice to know the SPL have the time to pick on the club when they knew it’s something that wouldn’t be sorted until next summer. The club have now reviewed their way forward, and as the government (DCMS) aren’t giving any funds and screwing over the local community, they’ll now revert to just levelling the pitch.

There is a just giving page to help them out, if you wish…

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