The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Sutekh » 19 Nov 2024 11:56

Brogue I actually think Lampard would be fine in the chump, he did OK at derby albeit with biggest budget in the league at the time.


We shall see, in advanced talks with Coventry now.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Brogue » 19 Nov 2024 15:20

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Brogue I actually think Lampard would be fine in the chump, he did OK at derby albeit with biggest budget in the league at the time.


We shall see, in advanced talks with Coventry now.


interestingly* if he gets the job the championship will consist of

Tom Cleverley
Frank lampard
Wayne rooney
scott parker
michael carrick

all of which played for England in the brazil friendly in Feb 2013 .

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Pepe the Horseman » 19 Nov 2024 16:32

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Brogue I actually think Lampard would be fine in the chump, he did OK at derby albeit with biggest budget in the league at the time.


We shall see, in advanced talks with Coventry now.


interestingly* if he gets the job the championship will consist of

Tom Cleverley
Frank lampard
Wayne rooney
scott parker
michael carrick

all of which played for England in the brazil friendly in Feb 2013 .

Jack Wilshire also a first team coach at Norwich, so probably only a matter of time before he takes over there.

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by Winston Biscuit » 20 Nov 2024 20:46

Patrick Vieira takes over at Genoa, 1 place outside the relegation zone in Serie A

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by sputnik » 24 Nov 2024 16:08

Cooper gone from Leicester


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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Clyde1998 » 24 Nov 2024 16:20

sputnik Cooper gone from Leicester

It's a stupid decision, as a lot of these are. I don't know what Leicester are expecting this season; they're doing about as well as could be expected for a new manager coming in at a newly promoted side. They don't seem to have spent a lot, in Premier League terms, either - given they also sold Dewsbury-Hall to Chelsea for £30m.

The only disappointing results would be drawing their games against Palace; Everton and Ipswich, based on how sides have started the season. They'd obviously be upset about losing to Forest.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Sutekh » 24 Nov 2024 17:18

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sputnik Cooper gone from Leicester

It's a stupid decision, as a lot of these are. I don't know what Leicester are expecting this season; they're doing about as well as could be expected for a new manager coming in at a newly promoted side. They don't seem to have spent a lot, in Premier League terms, either - given they also sold Dewsbury-Hall to Chelsea for £30m.

The only disappointing results would be drawing their games against Palace; Everton and Ipswich, based on how sides have started the season. They'd obviously be upset about losing to Forest.


The very same Dewsbury-Hall who will barely make any appearances for them before starting the usual range of loans leading to an eventual move to somewhere like Stockport for next to nothing. Chelsea really should be held accountable for ******* up so many players careers, but then it’s amazing that so many players still sign for them.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Clyde1998 » 24 Nov 2024 17:51

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sputnik Cooper gone from Leicester

It's a stupid decision, as a lot of these are. I don't know what Leicester are expecting this season; they're doing about as well as could be expected for a new manager coming in at a newly promoted side. They don't seem to have spent a lot, in Premier League terms, either - given they also sold Dewsbury-Hall to Chelsea for £30m.

The only disappointing results would be drawing their games against Palace; Everton and Ipswich, based on how sides have started the season. They'd obviously be upset about losing to Forest.


The very same Dewsbury-Hall who will barely make any appearances for them before starting the usual range of loans leading to an eventual move to somewhere like Stockport for next to nothing. Chelsea really should be held accountable for ******* up so many players careers, but then it’s amazing that so many players still sign for them.

I think the player has to take as much responsibility, if not more. It's the money and prestige that draws players.

He'd absolutely be a regular at Leicester, where as he's got 44 Premier League minutes off the bench, played twice in the League Cup and has five appearances in the Conference League - he only got half a game against Noah.

It's not like he knew Chelsea didn't already have a massive squad. They've even got Cesare Casadei sitting in their first team squad, who looked like he'd become a good Premier League player; I doubt he'll get opportunities to improve whilst sat in the Chelsea's reserves and making the odd appearance in random cup competitions. At 21, he needs to be playing regular football. Seems like a total waste, but I'm sure it's very comfortable.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Dirk Gently » 24 Nov 2024 18:25

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Clyde1998 It's a stupid decision, as a lot of these are. I don't know what Leicester are expecting this season; they're doing about as well as could be expected for a new manager coming in at a newly promoted side. They don't seem to have spent a lot, in Premier League terms, either - given they also sold Dewsbury-Hall to Chelsea for £30m.

The only disappointing results would be drawing their games against Palace; Everton and Ipswich, based on how sides have started the season. They'd obviously be upset about losing to Forest.


The very same Dewsbury-Hall who will barely make any appearances for them before starting the usual range of loans leading to an eventual move to somewhere like Stockport for next to nothing. Chelsea really should be held accountable for ******* up so many players careers, but then it’s amazing that so many players still sign for them.

I think the player has to take as much responsibility, if not more. It's the money and prestige that draws players.

He'd absolutely be a regular at Leicester, where as he's got 44 Premier League minutes off the bench, played twice in the League Cup and has five appearances in the Conference League - he only got half a game against Noah.

It's not like he knew Chelsea didn't already have a massive squad. They've even got Cesare Casadei sitting in their first team squad, who looked like he'd become a good Premier League player; I doubt he'll get opportunities to improve whilst sat in the Chelsea's reserves and making the odd appearance in random cup competitions. At 21, he needs to be playing regular football. Seems like a total waste, but I'm sure it's very comfortable.


The mentality of players is that they all believe they're good enough for the top and that they will succeed with the big chance they're being given. They're confident that they'll force their way into the first team, if not at first but that they'll get their chance when the player with the shirt is injured and then they'll seize it with both hands. If they didn't have that mentality and level of self-belief they'd probably not have got to where they are already, so it's just an extension of that mindset for them.

I was once told by a pro that one of the dreads they all have is looking back at the end of their career and thinking : "What might have happened if I hadn't turned down that big move?"


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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Sutekh » 25 Nov 2024 06:16

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The very same Dewsbury-Hall who will barely make any appearances for them before starting the usual range of loans leading to an eventual move to somewhere like Stockport for next to nothing. Chelsea really should be held accountable for ******* up so many players careers, but then it’s amazing that so many players still sign for them.

I think the player has to take as much responsibility, if not more. It's the money and prestige that draws players.

He'd absolutely be a regular at Leicester, where as he's got 44 Premier League minutes off the bench, played twice in the League Cup and has five appearances in the Conference League - he only got half a game against Noah.

It's not like he knew Chelsea didn't already have a massive squad. They've even got Cesare Casadei sitting in their first team squad, who looked like he'd become a good Premier League player; I doubt he'll get opportunities to improve whilst sat in the Chelsea's reserves and making the odd appearance in random cup competitions. At 21, he needs to be playing regular football. Seems like a total waste, but I'm sure it's very comfortable.


The mentality of players is that they all believe they're good enough for the top and that they will succeed with the big chance they're being given. They're confident that they'll force their way into the first team, if not at first but that they'll get their chance when the player with the shirt is injured and then they'll seize it with both hands. If they didn't have that mentality and level of self-belief they'd probably not have got to where they are already, so it's just an extension of that mindset for them.

I was once told by a pro that one of the dreads they all have is looking back at the end of their career and thinking : "What might have happened if I hadn't turned down that big move?"


Get that completely, no player is likely to ever turn down a big club move, just feel that Chelsea could do a bit better than just buy anyone who looks even vaguely promising just stick so many of them into a loan loop before eventually spitting them to the lower divisions out 5 years later.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Orion1871 » 25 Nov 2024 08:05

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The very same Dewsbury-Hall who will barely make any appearances for them before starting the usual range of loans leading to an eventual move to somewhere like Stockport for next to nothing. Chelsea really should be held accountable for ******* up so many players careers, but then it’s amazing that so many players still sign for them.

I think the player has to take as much responsibility, if not more. It's the money and prestige that draws players.

He'd absolutely be a regular at Leicester, where as he's got 44 Premier League minutes off the bench, played twice in the League Cup and has five appearances in the Conference League - he only got half a game against Noah.

It's not like he knew Chelsea didn't already have a massive squad. They've even got Cesare Casadei sitting in their first team squad, who looked like he'd become a good Premier League player; I doubt he'll get opportunities to improve whilst sat in the Chelsea's reserves and making the odd appearance in random cup competitions. At 21, he needs to be playing regular football. Seems like a total waste, but I'm sure it's very comfortable.


The mentality of players is that they all believe they're good enough for the top and that they will succeed with the big chance they're being given. They're confident that they'll force their way into the first team, if not at first but that they'll get their chance when the player with the shirt is injured and then they'll seize it with both hands. If they didn't have that mentality and level of self-belief they'd probably not have got to where they are already, so it's just an extension of that mindset for them.

I was once told by a pro that one of the dreads they all have is looking back at the end of their career and thinking : "What might have happened if I hadn't turned down that big move?"


For privacy's sake, let's call him Steve. S
No, that's too obvious. Uh, let's say S. Sidwell.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Dirk Gently » 25 Nov 2024 10:26

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Clyde1998 I think the player has to take as much responsibility, if not more. It's the money and prestige that draws players.

He'd absolutely be a regular at Leicester, where as he's got 44 Premier League minutes off the bench, played twice in the League Cup and has five appearances in the Conference League - he only got half a game against Noah.

It's not like he knew Chelsea didn't already have a massive squad. They've even got Cesare Casadei sitting in their first team squad, who looked like he'd become a good Premier League player; I doubt he'll get opportunities to improve whilst sat in the Chelsea's reserves and making the odd appearance in random cup competitions. At 21, he needs to be playing regular football. Seems like a total waste, but I'm sure it's very comfortable.


The mentality of players is that they all believe they're good enough for the top and that they will succeed with the big chance they're being given. They're confident that they'll force their way into the first team, if not at first but that they'll get their chance when the player with the shirt is injured and then they'll seize it with both hands. If they didn't have that mentality and level of self-belief they'd probably not have got to where they are already, so it's just an extension of that mindset for them.

I was once told by a pro that one of the dreads they all have is looking back at the end of their career and thinking : "What might have happened if I hadn't turned down that big move?"


For privacy's sake, let's call him Steve. S
No, that's too obvious. Uh, let's say S. Sidwell.


That's who we were talking about, of course, but the comment about him was made in an Irish accent...

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Clyde1998 » 25 Nov 2024 15:20

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Clyde1998 I think the player has to take as much responsibility, if not more. It's the money and prestige that draws players.

He'd absolutely be a regular at Leicester, where as he's got 44 Premier League minutes off the bench, played twice in the League Cup and has five appearances in the Conference League - he only got half a game against Noah.

It's not like he knew Chelsea didn't already have a massive squad. They've even got Cesare Casadei sitting in their first team squad, who looked like he'd become a good Premier League player; I doubt he'll get opportunities to improve whilst sat in the Chelsea's reserves and making the odd appearance in random cup competitions. At 21, he needs to be playing regular football. Seems like a total waste, but I'm sure it's very comfortable.


The mentality of players is that they all believe they're good enough for the top and that they will succeed with the big chance they're being given. They're confident that they'll force their way into the first team, if not at first but that they'll get their chance when the player with the shirt is injured and then they'll seize it with both hands. If they didn't have that mentality and level of self-belief they'd probably not have got to where they are already, so it's just an extension of that mindset for them.

I was once told by a pro that one of the dreads they all have is looking back at the end of their career and thinking : "What might have happened if I hadn't turned down that big move?"


Get that completely, no player is likely to ever turn down a big club move, just feel that Chelsea could do a bit better than just buy anyone who looks even vaguely promising just stick so many of them into a loan loop before eventually spitting them to the lower divisions out 5 years later.

I'd argue there should be some sort of limits on how many professional players clubs can have, with potential exceptions for players who are home grown at the club. That would prevent clubs from stockpiling players and force them to utilise the players they already have.


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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Sanguine » 27 Nov 2024 12:07

Closing in on confirmation that Coventry City think that Frank Lampard is better equipped than Mark Robins to right the ship.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by AthleticoSpizz » 27 Nov 2024 17:25

Hull sack head coach Tim Walter.

Should’ve stuck with Rosie

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Clyde1998 » 27 Nov 2024 18:16

AthleticoSpizz Hull sack head coach Tim Walter.

Should’ve stuck with Rosie

They've got what they've deserved for sacking Rosenior.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Hendo » 28 Nov 2024 15:22

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AthleticoSpizz Hull sack head coach Tim Walter.

Should’ve stuck with Rosie

They've got what they've deserved for sacking Rosenior.


Wouldn't be surprised if Robins ended up there.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Pepe the Horseman » 29 Nov 2024 19:04

Van Nistelrooy takes over at Leicester.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Sutekh » 30 Nov 2024 06:37

Pepe the Horseman Van Nistelrooy takes over at Leicester.


Probably all on the basis of 4 games as a caretaker somewhere :?

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by windermereROYAL » 30 Nov 2024 20:38

Surely Rooney must be on borrowed time, what on Earth were they thinking?

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