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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by AthleticoSpizz » 05 Dec 2024 20:30

‘Hearts and minds’ Pepe ‘hearts and minds’

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by SouthDownsRoyal » 05 Dec 2024 22:56

AthleticoSpizz …..anyways

Close the thread, Cardiff have appointed Riza until the end of the season (at least)…they will not be hiring Selles


( :wink: )


I heard Selles might be going to Hull!

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by SouthDownsRoyal » 05 Dec 2024 23:05

leon Football people's career decision making never fails to amaze me. Particularly managers. They really aren't very clever and chasing the latest shiny bauble thinking it will be different for them.


Of course, only Selles knows why Hull have lured him away from the royal county but I agree, on the face of it it seems a questionable move.

Had Selles stayed a while longer consolidated us in the top 6 (haha?) surely a better move would have come along.

Never mind, it’s all academic now

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by SouthDownsRoyal » 05 Dec 2024 23:11

morganb How does the Hull squad compare to ours?
What style do they play?
Do they have any real standout players?
Are they all wizened old pros who might not adapt to his style and be disruptive (see: Carroll, A)?
Which of our players, if any, do we think he'll come back for in the January window?


Any more questions?

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by Carnabyswhiskers » 05 Dec 2024 23:55

Given the circumstances under which he has operated, how close is Selles to unseating Coppell as our greatest ever manager? No comparison on the playing record, so probably not. But had he stuck around and got promotion with this group of players under this regime, which way would other posters have gone?


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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by Snowflake Royal » 06 Dec 2024 00:09

morganb How does the Hull squad compare to ours?
What style do they play?
Do they have any real standout players?
Are they all wizened old pros who might not adapt to his style and be disruptive (see: Carroll, A)?
Which of our players, if any, do we think he'll come back for in the January window?

Absolutely none.

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by Snowflake Royal » 06 Dec 2024 00:11

AthleticoSpizz (yet) Once again

Let’s us hear his (Selles) reasoning before we cast judgement on his decision

(I feel sure it won’t be the generic “a bigger club with stellar ambitions and ownership” bs)….and is this his “first opportunity”?

Let’s wait a bit

His reasoning is obvious.

Money. Championship. Stress.

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by Snowflake Royal » 06 Dec 2024 00:11

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AthleticoSpizz Fair enough, but he did love the club enough to fore-go / delay payment of his own wages to ensure the ground staff got their wages before Christmas last year (when they were threatened with going without)

Again doesn't suggest he loves the club, just shows he's a nice guy.

Who supports his colleagues

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by morganb » 06 Dec 2024 00:12

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morganb How does the Hull squad compare to ours?
What style do they play?
Do they have any real standout players?
Are they all wizened old pros who might not adapt to his style and be disruptive (see: Carroll, A)?
Which of our players, if any, do we think he'll come back for in the January window?


Any more questions?


Why?


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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by Snowflake Royal » 06 Dec 2024 00:12

Carnabyswhiskers Given the circumstances under which he has operated, how close is Selles to unseating Coppell as our greatest ever manager? No comparison on the playing record, so probably not. But had he stuck around and got promotion with this group of players under this regime, which way would other posters have gone?

About a million miles away.


There's some shocking levels of delusion going on round here at the moment.

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by tidus_mi2 » 06 Dec 2024 00:16

I'd rank Selles about 4th behind Coppell, McDermott and Pardew.

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by Sutekh » 06 Dec 2024 07:25

tidus_mi2 I'd rank Selles about 4th behind Coppell, McDermott and Pardew.


I’d have him behind McGhee too. Now we just have to wait to see who goes with him in January.

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by Sutekh » 06 Dec 2024 08:03

First-team coaches James Oliver-Pearce and Tobias Loveland are also expected to leave with Ruben Selles so presumably more places to fill somewhere.


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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by Hound » 06 Dec 2024 08:27

It’s different circumstances with Selles. A lot of his popularity has come from how he has handled the situation and comes over as a thoroughly decent chap. The refusal to criticise referees, opposition etc as well

He’s proven to be a good to excellent manager once he settled in and a fantastic man manager. Whether he has the ability to transfer this everywhere he goes - be interesting to see

In terms of Hull, they were absolutely abysmal in the pre season friendly. I think he has his work cut out there from the look of them and their chairman

I can see him taking an interest in Savage, Elliott and Knibbs if they are going cheap in Jan. possibly a couple of youth lads who thinks have the potential - maybe a Spencer or Ahmed for example

Anyway good luck to him. I’ve always liked him as a person even if he had a rocky start. Deserves to do well somewhere and will keep an eye on how he goes

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by Snowflake Royal » 06 Dec 2024 08:39

Hound It’s different circumstances with Selles. A lot of his popularity has come from how he has handled the situation and comes over as a thoroughly decent chap. The refusal to criticise referees, opposition etc as well

He’s proven to be a good to excellent manager once he settled in and a fantastic man manager. Whether he has the ability to transfer this everywhere he goes - be interesting to see

In terms of Hull, they were absolutely abysmal in the pre season friendly. I think he has his work cut out there from the look of them and their chairman

I can see him taking an interest in Savage, Elliott and Knibbs if they are going cheap in Jan. possibly a couple of youth lads who thinks have the potential - maybe a Spencer or Ahmed for example

Anyway good luck to him. I’ve always liked him as a person even if he had a rocky start. Deserves to do well somewhere and will keep an eye on how he goes

I predict he'll go in, get a small bump as a fresh voice with players keen to impress. He'll go heavy on his style which will initiall impress with work rate, but won't adapt it quickly enough to the squad at his disposal.

He'll maybe do just enough to keep them up (their GD is better than their competitiors and they don't see to concede lots). But they'll struggle again next season.

He'll either go in late March/ early April if they're still firmly in trouble or October/November 25 if they stay up, when they struggle again.

He won't get the time to adapt he had here. And his squad will be worse in the Championship than ours is in L1.

But good luck to him. And I hope he finds a better club in a better situation than Hull as his next stop.

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by leon » 06 Dec 2024 08:44

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tidus_mi2 I'd rank Selles about 4th behind Coppell, McDermott and Pardew.


I’d have him behind McGhee too. Now we just have to wait to see who goes with him in January.


just wow.

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by Mid Sussex Royal » 06 Dec 2024 10:15

tidus_mi2 I'd rank Selles about 4th behind Coppell, McDermott and Pardew.


I'd have McGhee ahead of Pardew, we were based at Elm Park then and Pardew was given significant funds to spend for third tier,

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by MartinRdg » 06 Dec 2024 10:21

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tidus_mi2 I'd rank Selles about 4th behind Coppell, McDermott and Pardew.


I'd have McGhee ahead of Pardew, we were based at Elm Park then and Pardew was given significant funds to spend for third tier,


Everyone seems to have rose-tinted glasses! Do they forget his start at RFC - insisting on 4-2-2-2? Do they forget him dragging players over to fans at the end of a match and the players being abused by the fans?

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by tidus_mi2 » 06 Dec 2024 10:51

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tidus_mi2 I'd rank Selles about 4th behind Coppell, McDermott and Pardew.


I'd have McGhee ahead of Pardew, we were based at Elm Park then and Pardew was given significant funds to spend for third tier,

To be fair, I was basing that off my time supporting Reading, which started with Pardew, probably should have mentioned that.

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Re: Rumour - Selles to Cardiff or Hull

by WestYorksRoyal » 06 Dec 2024 13:57

WestYorksRoyal If we were waiting on good news, this is about the stage it would all go quiet and nothing would happen.

Still nothing official....

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