MATCHWATCH : Walsall (a)

[SCIAG]

Senga - 7 looked a step above most of the other younger players. Don't understand why we haven't seen more of him.

Agreed, he looked good.

He spent almost all of last season out injured and had another at the start of this. They took his recovery very seriously and eased him back into the U21 side.

Also plays in the position where we have most depth. It’s not like defence or attack where we’ve been desperately short and basically everyone gets a go. Then again, we do keep playing Sackey for some reason.

Senga didn’t spend most of last season injured- he went on loan to Ayr Utd from 1st September until 21st January.

Fair point, I'd forgotten that.

Looking at his list of appearances last season, first time he completed 90 minutes after returning from loan was the Fulham match we lost 7-1 at the start of March. Got taken off injured three games later against Spurs and missed the next four matches, coming back as a sub for the last two. So the only time he was fully fit and at the club was August and March.

[stealthpapes]

Just back. Gutting not to see that out as we battled really hard. Button showed just how brain dead he is. Were never winning that shoot out in a million years once they equalised.

Blame Button more than Ahmed tbh. Ahmed took one for the team. Buttons was stupidity being caught out of position and got away with it a few moments before too

Watching the highlights, I realised Button's red card was for the mistimed challenge on the attacker - as opposed to the referee giving handball. I assumed it was the latter, but felt he clearly chested the ball. Whilst it was a foul, I don't see why it was a red card; he was the last man, but it wasn't an obvious scoring opportunity with where the ball ended up and how far away from goal the foul was.

The only positive to come from that red card is Norcott did well when he came on - looked a bit more assured than Boyce-Clarke and he's two years younger. If we can get CBC a loan in January, I'd be content with him being the third choice at this stage.

I could see the Ahmed red card coming from a mile away. As soon as he slid in like that, it was always going to be a foul and a yellow card in that position (and he got nowhere near the ball). I can't remember what the first yellow was for. He's young enough to have the opportunity to learn from it and getting knocked out the EFL Trophy isn't going to be all that well remembered in a few months time.

The equaliser was the killer; as you say, I had no confidence of winning the shootout after that. Their keeper did make a couple of good saves tbf and Kanu took his penalty extremely well.

Adomah's miss.

[windermereROYAL]

Haven`t seen any highlights are still shots yet, but in real time that equaliser must have been close to being offside.

[tidus_mi2]

Honestly, glad we went out, with our squad as it is, even if we'd held on to the 1-0, we'd go into the next round being forced to play 4 senior players, while Button has been an easy selection to take one of those slots, his red card meant we'd have to go with 4 senior outfield players, or, alternatively, put Pereira in goal.

[Snowflake Royal]

Honestly, glad we went out, with our squad as it is, even if we'd held on to the 1-0, we'd go into the next round being forced to play 4 senior players, while Button has been an easy selection to take one of those slots, his red card meant we'd have to go with 4 senior outfield players, or, alternatively, put Pereira in goal.

Goalies don't count. Its outfielders.

[morganb]

Honestly, glad we went out, with our squad as it is, even if we'd held on to the 1-0, we'd go into the next round being forced to play 4 senior players, while Button has been an easy selection to take one of those slots, his red card meant we'd have to go with 4 senior outfield players, or, alternatively, put Pereira in goal.

Goalies don't count. Its outfielders.

From the way Button was playing yesterday it looked like he was trying to help increase the outfielder quota...

[tidus_mi2]

Honestly, glad we went out, with our squad as it is, even if we'd held on to the 1-0, we'd go into the next round being forced to play 4 senior players, while Button has been an easy selection to take one of those slots, his red card meant we'd have to go with 4 senior outfield players, or, alternatively, put Pereira in goal.

Goalies don't count. Its outfielders.

Missed the bit about outfield players.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

Anyone know if Spencer and Rushesha are injured? Spencer in particular has looked good when come in to the team

[Vision]

Honestly, glad we went out, with our squad as it is, even if we'd held on to the 1-0, we'd go into the next round being forced to play 4 senior players, while Button has been an easy selection to take one of those slots, his red card meant we'd have to go with 4 senior outfield players, or, alternatively, put Pereira in goal.

Goalies don't count. Its outfielders.

From the way Button was playing yesterday it looked like he was trying to help increase the outfielder quota...

The irony of Button wandering out of his penalty area when he won't ever come for a ball inside his own oxf*rd 6 yard box on a cross.

[RATM]

Anyone know if Spencer and Rushesha are injured? Spencer in particular has looked good when come in to the team

I believe Spencer is injured as someone mentioned they saw him on crutches last week

[Stanmore Royal]

I want Wareham to succeed. I think I've seen enough to know he likely won't.

Yes was impressed with him when came into team, last few games bar a few nice touches been mainly anomonous getting concerned that he might not be good enough. Hope I’m wrong and he’s just having a blip as he learns his trade.

On the match Button was Button ie sh*t did like the quote about how strange it was being out of box as normally rooted to spot in six yard box

The rest were mixed good in places with mistakes showing the rawness of them all, should have been out of game if they could shoot but gutted in the end,knew we’d lose the shootout as these youngsters seem to be sh*t in previous shootouts

[SCIAG]

Button deserved to go. It was a useless bit of play from him. Terrible

It was very poor, however, and I don't like blaming anyone but we had two defenders who were sauntering back, if they'd put in more of an effort he wouldn't have been the last man and it wouldn't have been a red

There’s more to judging DOGSO than “last man”, especially as that usually means “excluding the goalkeeper”.

In Button’s favour, it was a long way out, there were two other defenders and no other attackers nearby, and the attacker did not have control of the ball. Against, it was central, the goalkeeper was out of position, and as you note, the two defenders weren’t especially well positioned.

On balance I think the referee made the wrong call (and it would have been equally wrong if handball was involved rather than a trip), but I’ve seen worse.

[Snowflake Royal]

I want Wareham to succeed. I think I've seen enough to know he likely won't.

Yes was impressed with him when came into team, last few games bar a few nice touches been mainly anomonous getting concerned that he might not be good enough. Hope I’m wrong and he’s just having a blip as he learns his trade.

I find Wareham a bit of an enigma. He'll go through large parts of a game barely involved. Maybe miss a couple of chances he ought not to.

Then he'll compete physically with someone bigger than him... win a flick on he has no right to, hold the ball up and lay off well. Or he'll pull some lovely feet out of nowhere or slot the ball calmly into the net.

He's got a league goal in only 239 minutes of football, thats less than 3 games per league goal. I thought he'd got one in a cup too, but apparently not.

There's something there. Height is against him and he doesn't have blistering pace. I don't think he's well suited to leading the line in the way we play... but I dunno, I think he might have a decent career.

[Linden Jones' Tash]

I want Wareham to succeed. I think I've seen enough to know he likely won't.

Yes was impressed with him when came into team, last few games bar a few nice touches been mainly anomonous getting concerned that he might not be good enough. Hope I’m wrong and he’s just having a blip as he learns his trade.

I find Wareham a bit of an enigma. He'll go through large parts of a game barely involved. Maybe miss a couple of chances he ought not to.

Then he'll compete physically with someone bigger than him... win a flick on he has no right to, hold the ball up and lay off well. Or he'll pull some lovely feet out of nowhere or slot the ball calmly into the net.

He's got a league goal in only 239 minutes of football, thats less than 3 games per league goal. I thought he'd got one in a cup too, but apparently not.

There's something there. Height is against him and he doesn't have blistering pace. I don't think he's well suited to leading the line in the way we play... but I dunno, I think he might have a decent career.

I worry he'll turn out to be a Paul Brayson mark II...

[SCIAG]

I want Wareham to succeed. I think I've seen enough to know he likely won't.

Yes was impressed with him when came into team, last few games bar a few nice touches been mainly anomonous getting concerned that he might not be good enough. Hope I’m wrong and he’s just having a blip as he learns his trade.

I find Wareham a bit of an enigma. He'll go through large parts of a game barely involved. Maybe miss a couple of chances he ought not to.

Then he'll compete physically with someone bigger than him... win a flick on he has no right to, hold the ball up and lay off well. Or he'll pull some lovely feet out of nowhere or slot the ball calmly into the net.

He's got a league goal in only 239 minutes of football, thats less than 3 games per league goal. I thought he'd got one in a cup too, but apparently not.

There's something there. Height is against him and he doesn't have blistering pace. I don't think he's well suited to leading the line in the way we play... but I dunno, I think he might have a decent career.

Agree with this almost entirely. He doesn't make much sense (at least in the modern game) and I'm not sure what his prospects are, but there's clear talent there and he somehow makes things work even when they're not on.

[stealthpapes]

Scored vs West Ham, scored vs Newport. Both EFL Trophy.

He was pretty poor in the latter game, trying to watch him trap the ball ..

[Snowflake Royal]

Scored vs West Ham, scored vs Newport. Both EFL Trophy.

He was pretty poor in the latter game, trying to watch him trap the ball ..

Bloody whoscored.

Yes, he's had a stinker. But who hasn't?

[tidus_mi2]

I want Wareham to succeed. I think I've seen enough to know he likely won't.

Yes was impressed with him when came into team, last few games bar a few nice touches been mainly anomonous getting concerned that he might not be good enough. Hope I’m wrong and he’s just having a blip as he learns his trade.

On the match Button was Button ie sh*t did like the quote about how strange it was being out of box as normally rooted to spot in six yard box

The rest were mixed good in places with mistakes showing the rawness of them all, should have been out of game if they could shoot but gutted in the end,knew we’d lose the shootout as these youngsters seem to be sh*t in previous shootouts

I have a similar notion with CBC, he's this kid we've been told is an amazing talent but has been given multiple opportunities now and has already developed a reputation for dropping a clanger, when he replaced the injured Pereira for the Leyton Orient game people just expected a mistake at some point and he didn't disappoint.

He may make it elsewhere but I suspect he's had enough chances here and will be gone upon the expiry of his contract in the Summer.

[Brogue]

I want Wareham to succeed. I think I've seen enough to know he likely won't.

Yes was impressed with him when came into team, last few games bar a few nice touches been mainly anomonous getting concerned that he might not be good enough. Hope I’m wrong and he’s just having a blip as he learns his trade.

On the match Button was Button ie sh*t did like the quote about how strange it was being out of box as normally rooted to spot in six yard box

The rest were mixed good in places with mistakes showing the rawness of them all, should have been out of game if they could shoot but gutted in the end,knew we’d lose the shootout as these youngsters seem to be sh*t in previous shootouts

I have a similar notion with CBC, he's this kid we've been told is an amazing talent but has been given multiple opportunities now and has already developed a reputation for dropping a clanger, when he replaced the injured Pereira for the Leyton Orient game people just expected a mistake at some point and he didn't disappoint.

He may make it elsewhere but I suspect he's had enough chances here and will be gone upon the expiry of his contract in the Summer.

i don't understand why he hasn't been sent out on loan to get some games under his belt. hes crying out for games to get rid of these little mistakes he makes. 3 games for st albans city and 8 games for welling utd. he will be 22 in march. he's 3rd choice here. its becoming now or never for him

[Snowflake Royal]

Yes was impressed with him when came into team, last few games bar a few nice touches been mainly anomonous getting concerned that he might not be good enough. Hope I’m wrong and he’s just having a blip as he learns his trade.

On the match Button was Button ie sh*t did like the quote about how strange it was being out of box as normally rooted to spot in six yard box

The rest were mixed good in places with mistakes showing the rawness of them all, should have been out of game if they could shoot but gutted in the end,knew we’d lose the shootout as these youngsters seem to be sh*t in previous shootouts

I have a similar notion with CBC, he's this kid we've been told is an amazing talent but has been given multiple opportunities now and has already developed a reputation for dropping a clanger, when he replaced the injured Pereira for the Leyton Orient game people just expected a mistake at some point and he didn't disappoint.

He may make it elsewhere but I suspect he's had enough chances here and will be gone upon the expiry of his contract in the Summer.

i don't understand why he hasn't been sent out on loan to get some games under his belt. hes crying out for games to get rid of these little mistakes he makes. 3 games for st albans city and 8 games for welling utd. he will be 22 in march. he's 3rd choice here. its becoming now or never for him

I imagine he's looking a lot less attractive to other clubs given some of his senior appearances.