#SellBeforeWeDai Action/Inaction Group

[Fezza]

Had an interesting exchange with a Stockport supporter on Friday evening who said that there will be a few of their lads turning up for the game in January. He also suggested that another pitch invasion should happen soon, based on the publicity that it generated last time. I pointed out the points deduction hanging over us if that was to happen again. To which he replied "Would you rather still have a club, even if you are in League 2, or carry on in limbo like you are at the mo?" Thoughts.

I fail to see what it achieves, other than undermining the efforts of the players and further annoying the EFL. It will make no odds to Dai, who has checked out and further deductions make us a harder sale to potential buyers.

I don’t buy the nonsense about buyers not existing, the Chinese state will force him to sell as he owes a fortune, it just needs to be for the right price.

[Sutekh]

Had an interesting exchange with a Stockport supporter on Friday evening who said that there will be a few of their lads turning up for the game in January. He also suggested that another pitch invasion should happen soon, based on the publicity that it generated last time. I pointed out the points deduction hanging over us if that was to happen again. To which he replied "Would you rather still have a club, even if you are in League 2, or carry on in limbo like you are at the mo?" Thoughts.

I fail to see what it achieves, other than undermining the efforts of the players and further annoying the EFL. It will make no odds to Dai, who has checked out and further deductions make us a harder sale to potential buyers.

I don’t buy the nonsense about buyers not existing, the Chinese state will force him to sell as he owes a fortune, it just needs to be for the right price.

This. It’s not as if the whole of British football don’t know about this mess. The club isn’t exactly going to be sold any quicker just because a load of fans stood on the pitch yelling obscenities at Dai again. All it’d do is undermine the players and generate a whole load of amongst other clubs fans who are also probably as sick of this saga as we are.

[The Cap]

Good replies lads, they make a lot of sense.

[Extended-Phenotype]

The painful reality has always been that the fans - and any fan-led movement - are completely powerless. I think getting attention was the most we could do, and we did that. I’m not sure any more attention would help. The only other effects we can have as supporters, is financial and psychological - if we stop supporting we simply accelerate our demise. We can’t afford to lose the points we may need to cover the administration penalty, or indeed our survival in League 1 if the second half of the season continues to play out on the pitch as it has the last couple of games (which may get even worse after the likely fire sale of players we will face next month).

The only recommendation I can make is that protests are passive during games, and perhaps more disruptive before/after. But I don’t know what effect protests can hope to have. They won’t make Dai sell any quicker. They won’t encourage more buyers or make them up their price. The EFL are powerless and don’t really care. And the players don’t seem to respond positively to them. Unfortunately there is little we can do.

Saying all that, if the team is decimated in January, harsh as it may be, a mass boycott of the games may speed up our collapse into administration. A year ago administration felt like a nightmare scenario, but it might be the only way we escape Dai’s clutches.

[The Royal Forester]

The painful reality has always been that the fans - and any fan-led movement - are completely powerless. I think getting attention was the most we could do, and we did that. I’m not sure any more attention would help. The only other effects we can have as supporters, is financial and psychological - if we stop supporting we simply accelerate our demise. We can’t afford to lose the points we may need to cover the administration penalty, or indeed our survival in League 1 if the second half of the season continues to play out on the pitch as it has the last couple of games (which may get even worse after the likely fire sale of players we will face next month).

The only recommendation I can make is that protests are passive during games, and perhaps more disruptive before/after. But I don’t know what effect protests can hope to have. They won’t make Dai sell any quicker. They won’t encourage more buyers or make them up their price. The EFL are powerless and don’t really care. And the players don’t seem to respond positively to them. Unfortunately there is little we can do.

Saying all that, if the team is decimated in January, harsh as it may be, a mass boycott of the games may speed up our collapse into administration. A year ago administration felt like a nightmare scenario, but it might be the only way we escape Dai’s clutches.

Will a boycott of matches work though? Aren't most of the seats already paid for through season tickets? Yes non season ticket holders can refuse to buy tickets or the half Season ticket now on sale. I can't see many season tickets holders not going to matches they have already paid for. I may of course be wrong, be interested to see if the ST holders on here would join in a boycott.

[Snowflake Royal]

Had an interesting exchange with a Stockport supporter on Friday evening who said that there will be a few of their lads turning up for the game in January. He also suggested that another pitch invasion should happen soon, based on the publicity that it generated last time. I pointed out the points deduction hanging over us if that was to happen again. To which he replied "Would you rather still have a club, even if you are in League 2, or carry on in limbo like you are at the mo?" Thoughts.

Protest is ineffective. We've done as much as practical and it achieved nothing.

Further game disruption harms the players, and potentially league standing. Performance and league standing keeps buyers interested.

We don't need to attract buyers. We have them. The mission is survive long enough for legislation that helps us, or China to resolve It's action with Dai. Because he simply isn't selling on his own.

So we sell to stay affloat. We'll stay up this season (assuming bills get paid and no abandonments). Then we'll have to see.

[WestYorksRoyal]

If the worst happens we go vigilante and angry then. At least one EFL exec must lose their career if we go, and Pang too.

[Orion1871]

The painful reality has always been that the fans - and any fan-led movement - are completely powerless. I think getting attention was the most we could do, and we did that. I’m not sure any more attention would help. The only other effects we can have as supporters, is financial and psychological - if we stop supporting we simply accelerate our demise. We can’t afford to lose the points we may need to cover the administration penalty, or indeed our survival in League 1 if the second half of the season continues to play out on the pitch as it has the last couple of games (which may get even worse after the likely fire sale of players we will face next month).

The only recommendation I can make is that protests are passive during games, and perhaps more disruptive before/after. But I don’t know what effect protests can hope to have. They won’t make Dai sell any quicker. They won’t encourage more buyers or make them up their price. The EFL are powerless and don’t really care. And the players don’t seem to respond positively to them. Unfortunately there is little we can do.

Saying all that, if the team is decimated in January, harsh as it may be, a mass boycott of the games may speed up our collapse into administration. A year ago administration felt like a nightmare scenario, but it might be the only way we escape Dai’s clutches.

Will a boycott of matches work though? Aren't most of the seats already paid for through season tickets? Yes non season ticket holders can refuse to buy tickets or the half Season ticket now on sale. I can't see many season tickets holders not going to matches they have already paid for. I may of course be wrong, be interested to see if the ST holders on here would join in a boycott.

I'd be shocked, shocked i tells ya, if season ticket money wasn't spent by the club ages ago.

[The Royal Forester]

The painful reality has always been that the fans - and any fan-led movement - are completely powerless. I think getting attention was the most we could do, and we did that. I’m not sure any more attention would help. The only other effects we can have as supporters, is financial and psychological - if we stop supporting we simply accelerate our demise. We can’t afford to lose the points we may need to cover the administration penalty, or indeed our survival in League 1 if the second half of the season continues to play out on the pitch as it has the last couple of games (which may get even worse after the likely fire sale of players we will face next month).

The only recommendation I can make is that protests are passive during games, and perhaps more disruptive before/after. But I don’t know what effect protests can hope to have. They won’t make Dai sell any quicker. They won’t encourage more buyers or make them up their price. The EFL are powerless and don’t really care. And the players don’t seem to respond positively to them. Unfortunately there is little we can do.

Saying all that, if the team is decimated in January, harsh as it may be, a mass boycott of the games may speed up our collapse into administration. A year ago administration felt like a nightmare scenario, but it might be the only way we escape Dai’s clutches.

Will a boycott of matches work though? Aren't most of the seats already paid for through season tickets? Yes non season ticket holders can refuse to buy tickets or the half Season ticket now on sale. I can't see many season tickets holders not going to matches they have already paid for. I may of course be wrong, be interested to see if the ST holders on here would join in a boycott.

I'd be shocked, shocked i tells ya, if season ticket money wasn't spent by the club ages ago.

That backs up my point, It would make no difference to the club if Season Ticket Holders go to the games or not.

[Hiram K Hackenbacker]

Had an interesting exchange with a Stockport supporter on Friday evening who said that there will be a few of their lads turning up for the game in January. He also suggested that another pitch invasion should happen soon, based on the publicity that it generated last time. I pointed out the points deduction hanging over us if that was to happen again. To which he replied "Would you rather still have a club, even if you are in League 2, or carry on in limbo like you are at the mo?" Thoughts.

I fail to see what it achieves, other than undermining the efforts of the players and further annoying the EFL. It will make no odds to Dai, who has checked out and further deductions make us a harder sale to potential buyers.

I don’t buy the nonsense about buyers not existing, the Chinese state will force him to sell as he owes a fortune, it just needs to be for the right price.

This. It’s not as if the whole of British football don’t know about this mess. The club isn’t exactly going to be sold any quicker just because a load of fans stood on the pitch yelling obscenities at Dai again. All it’d do is undermine the players and generate a whole load of amongst other clubs fans who are also probably as sick of this saga as we are.

I agree

[tmesis]

I fail to see what it achieves, other than undermining the efforts of the players and further annoying the EFL. It will make no odds to Dai, who has checked out and further deductions make us a harder sale to potential buyers.

I don’t buy the nonsense about buyers not existing, the Chinese state will force him to sell as he owes a fortune, it just needs to be for the right price.

This. It’s not as if the whole of British football don’t know about this mess. The club isn’t exactly going to be sold any quicker just because a load of fans stood on the pitch yelling obscenities at Dai again. All it’d do is undermine the players and generate a whole load of amongst other clubs fans who are also probably as sick of this saga as we are.

I agree

Well that's just the sort of thing you would say.

[Sutekh]

[tidus_mi2]

I'm starting to wonder if we're at the point where we just have to abandon the club and look at the phoenix club option for next season.

[Snowflake Royal]

I'm starting to wonder if we're at the point where we just have to abandon the club and look at the phoenix club option for next season.

Never until its dead.

[Crusader Royal]

I'm starting to wonder if we're at the point where we just have to abandon the club and look at the phoenix club option for next season.

Never until its dead.

And of course as ever it will need to be ‘someone’ who puts in the effort while everyone else tells them they are doing it wrong….

[Hound]

I think Dai will sell at some point, either forced or he’ll just get bored enough to do it

God knows why he hasn’t already sold. We just need to survive long enough for it to happen

[Clyde1998]

I wouldn't put it past Dai having seen how well we've done this season and held off on selling to get more money from a sale - especially if we were promoted.

[Snowflake Royal]

I wouldn't put it past Dai having seen how well we've done this season and held off on selling to get more money from a sale - especially if we were promoted.

Wouldn't surprise me if that's why the Couhig deal fell apart.

Won't work obviously, we weren't going up with Selles, let alone without him.

[Hound]

I wouldn't put it past Dai having seen how well we've done this season and held off on selling to get more money from a sale - especially if we were promoted.

Wouldn't surprise me if that's why the Couhig deal fell apart.

Won't work obviously, we weren't going up with Selles, let alone without him.

Yes definitely a possibility at that time. We’re not going up now so he’s fcuked up again. Worth considerably less currently than a month ago

[SouthDownsRoyal]

I think Dai will sell at some point, either forced or he’ll just get bored enough to do it

God knows why he hasn’t already sold. We just need to survive long enough for it to happen

Think you’ve had a bit too much festive cheer!