BFTG . Derby

[PeterReadingborn59]

Odd that the description above is consistent with the action taken by the officials.
What action would you have taken ?
And why would you assume the highly trained neutral professional is wrong whilst the untrained and unqualified partial observer ( who may also be reporting what they believed they saw fairly and without conscious bias ) is right ?

Sorry to correct you Nameless but as per Daily Mail January paper report: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2909239/Top-Premier-League-referees-earn-FIVE-TIMES-Football-League-officials.html
Select Group referees — operating mostly in the Premier League — are believed to earn a basic salary of around £65,000 per year, while they also receive fees in excess of £1,000 per game in the top flight. If they were to officiate 38 games in a season, it would bring their overall pay to more than £100,000.

Referees on the National Group — operating in the Football League — are not on contracts and are paid in the region of £380 a match. They sign up to the National Group on the equivalent of a freelance basis. If they were to officiate the 46 games in a Football League season, they would receive £17,480.

The officials at Championship matches are normally from the National Group and are not "professional".

[tidus_mi2]

It will always be thus.
I don't think the officials always help themselves. I love watching rugby refs who are generally superb at game management but if a football ref tried to adopt the same style they would get nowhere.

Nigel Owens did recently say he'd love to referee a football match, I'd love to see that actually because whenever I've seen him officiate in rugby he is always in control and doesn't take any nonsense.

[Nameless]

Odd that the description above is consistent with the action taken by the officials.
What action would you have taken ?
And why would you assume the highly trained neutral professional is wrong whilst the untrained and unqualified partial observer ( who may also be reporting what they believed they saw fairly and without conscious bias ) is right ?

Sorry to correct you Nameless but as per Daily Mail January paper report: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2909239/Top-Premier-League-referees-earn-FIVE-TIMES-Football-League-officials.html
Select Group referees — operating mostly in the Premier League — are believed to earn a basic salary of around £65,000 per year, while they also receive fees in excess of £1,000 per game in the top flight. If they were to officiate 38 games in a season, it would bring their overall pay to more than £100,000.

Referees on the National Group — operating in the Football League — are not on contracts and are paid in the region of £380 a match. They sign up to the National Group on the equivalent of a freelance basis. If they were to officiate the 46 games in a Football League season, they would receive £17,480.

The officials at Championship matches are normally from the National Group and are not "professional".

And your definition of 'professional' is ?
by plenty of dictionary definitions the officials are professional, and certainly by common usage of the word.

No comment on the pertinent points raised I see. Good deflection techniques in use....

[WoodleyRoyal]

the term professional used in refereeing terms means this is their sole job, they train from Monday to Friday and officiate at the weekends/midweek. Gone of the days when David Elleray was a headteacher and Howard Webb being a copper, these would be their jobs and refereeing was just a hobby.

[CountryRoyal]

Jesus. Does every thread on this forum get so tangential or just the ones I post in?

[Nameless]

Neat cross linking to the multi faith prayer room discussion there !

[CountryRoyal]

Neat cross linking to the multi faith prayer room discussion there !

[Westwood52]

Like the referee I never saw the incident-if SA did head but Shackell sending off is undoubtedly correct, however if all he did was go head to head, these are usually let off-If all Shackell did was pull Sa's shirt "off the ball" it could hardly be the yellow he was given.

If Shackell was repeatedly kicking Sa-then as an experienced striker make damn sure the Ref knows about it. A few casual remarks & going down for treatment every time it happens (when the balls up the other end) should do the trick-while Tuesdays Ref was hot on simulation- if Sa goes down two or free times-even a poor Ref (which this guy was -though I have seen worse) would start to think something is going on here & he would keep an eye out for it.

I know in the ideal world Sa going down unnecessarily is not good-but in this Division you have to be smart & clearly Sa wasn't.

Hopefully he will learn from this and SC will guide him on what to do when he gets a CH like Shackell again.

Incidentally I thought Tish would be the player being sent off after getting the yellow so early-but he did manage his game very well after that & for one so inexperienced that was commendable-although the sliding tackle in the penalty area he made in the first half could have all gone very badly-however tribute to the boy. He is twice the player Akpan was.