The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

[melonhead]

yeah apart from comedy poster z, and woodcote

[peterroyal76]

Federici is in our squad because he is a proven top quality keeper, McCarthy is in our squad as he gives good cover in an emergency or injury situation.

Most level headed people do not think this is an emergency and Federici will return to form. There is history of goalkeepers being dropped after clangers being so short of confidence they are no use for months - Leighton/Beasant/Howie etc. Therefore, most level headed people don't thing it's a great idea to drop Federici at this point and risk leaving us with a keeper with no Premiership experience at all at the helm.

How many Premier league appearances has Federici made?

[Woodcote Royal]

Federici is in our squad because he is a proven top quality keeper, McCarthy is in our squad as he gives good cover in an emergency or injury situation.

Most level headed people do not think this is an emergency and Federici will return to form. There is history of goalkeepers being dropped after clangers being so short of confidence they are no use for months - Leighton/Beasant/Howie etc. Therefore, most level headed people don't thing it's a great idea to drop Federici at this point and risk leaving us with a keeper with no Premiership experience at all at the helm.

Professionals have to be able to cope with being dropped and it is already as clear as day that Federici's confidence is shot to pieces. Last night was, hopefully, his last chance to show that the first 2 games were just a blip. He needs a break.

As for the rest of our keepers, if they are in our 25 man squad they should be considered good enough to play. Take a look at the Man City highlights to see how good McCarthy was the season before last.

[Woodcote Royal]

yeah apart from comedy poster z, and woodcote

Comments like this show you up for the tool that you are.

We have a keeper who is badly out of form and costing us valuable league points; Some want him dropped now others want him to get a few more chances. Neither view point warrants your childish responses.

[Stuboo]

Federici is in our squad because he is a proven top quality keeper, McCarthy is in our squad as he gives good cover in an emergency or injury situation.

Most level headed people do not think this is an emergency and Federici will return to form. There is history of goalkeepers being dropped after clangers being so short of confidence they are no use for months - Leighton/Beasant/Howie etc. Therefore, most level headed people don't thing it's a great idea to drop Federici at this point and risk leaving us with a keeper with no Premiership experience at all at the helm.

Totally agree. Could be counter-productive to drop Federici now and therefore I feel we need to give him a bit more time.

[cmonurz]

Lots of people feigning knowledge of some kind of higher being here that determines when is, and when isn’t, the time to drop under-performing players. Apparently me thinking that Federici should be dropped now means I’m not ‘level-headed’. When would that judgement become a fair one? After mistakes in the next two games? Or in the next four? Lots of cock-waving on this thread, it’s not unreasonable to think that with an England under-21 keeper in reserve, and one who has impressed for Reading in the past, he might get a chance when the only guy ahead of him in the pecking order keeps making mistakes.

[RoyalBlue]

I remain entirely confident that Bibbo and McDermott will make the right call in terms of what is right for Feds and the team.

[cmonurz]

I remain entirely confident that Bibbo and McDermott will make the right call in terms of what is right for Feds and the team.

That's great, but there's not much point to a discussion board if we posted that on every thread.

[Woodcote Royal]

Lots of people feigning knowledge of some kind of higher being here that determines when is, and when isn’t, the time to drop under-performing players. Apparently me thinking that Federici should be dropped now means I’m not ‘level-headed’. When would that judgement become a fair one? After mistakes in the next two games? Or in the next four? Lots of cock-waving on this thread, it’s not unreasonable to think that with an England under-21 keeper in reserve, and one who has impressed for Reading in the past, he might get a chance when the only guy ahead of him in the pecking order keeps making mistakes.

+1

[Stuboo]

Just to be clear, I don't think people calling for Feds to be dropped now are not level-headed, I just don't agree. You may well be proved right if his next two games are catastrophic, but I think we need to give him a chance for the good of the team, as dropping him now could completely kill his confidence and render him useless to us for a while. Also, we know how good he is when he's on form, so it's in our interest to nurse him back.

Brian and Sal know best and will make the right call.

[melonhead]

Federici is in our squad because he is a proven top quality keeper, McCarthy is in our squad as he gives good cover in an emergency or injury situation.

Most level headed people do not think this is an emergency and Federici will return to form. There is history of goalkeepers being dropped after clangers being so short of confidence they are no use for months - Leighton/Beasant/Howie etc. Therefore, most level headed people don't thing it's a great idea to drop Federici at this point and risk leaving us with a keeper with no Premiership experience at all at the helm.

Professionals have to be able to cope with being dropped and it is already as clear as day that Federici's confidence is shot to pieces. Last night was, hopefully, his last chance to show that the first 2 games were just a blip. He needs a break.

As for the rest of our keepers, if they are in our 25 man squad they should be considered good enough to play. Take a look at the Man City highlights to see how good McCarthy was the season before last.

can bet you any money you like he wont be dropped for the next game unless injured.
cos thats not how it works, especially with keepers, and ill take a million football managers opinions over your any day

[melonhead]

yeah apart from comedy poster z, and woodcote

Comments like this show you up for the tool that you are.

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good one

[melonhead]

Lots of people feigning knowledge of some kind of higher being here that determines when is, and when isn’t, the time to drop under-performing players. Apparently me thinking that Federici should be dropped now means I’m not ‘level-headed’. When would that judgement become a fair one? After mistakes in the next two games? Or in the next four? Lots of cock-waving on this thread, it’s not unreasonable to think that with an England under-21 keeper in reserve, and one who has impressed for Reading in the past, he might get a chance when the only guy ahead of him in the pecking order keeps making mistakes.

whenever it is, guaranteed it wont be after 3 games

[Woodcote Royal]

Federici is in our squad because he is a proven top quality keeper, McCarthy is in our squad as he gives good cover in an emergency or injury situation.

Most level headed people do not think this is an emergency and Federici will return to form. There is history of goalkeepers being dropped after clangers being so short of confidence they are no use for months - Leighton/Beasant/Howie etc. Therefore, most level headed people don't thing it's a great idea to drop Federici at this point and risk leaving us with a keeper with no Premiership experience at all at the helm.

Professionals have to be able to cope with being dropped and it is already as clear as day that Federici's confidence is shot to pieces. Last night was, hopefully, his last chance to show that the first 2 games were just a blip. He needs a break.

As for the rest of our keepers, if they are in our 25 man squad they should be considered good enough to play. Take a look at the Man City highlights to see how good McCarthy was the season before last.

can bet you any money you like he wont be dropped for the next game unless injured.
cos thats not how it works, especially with keepers, and ill take a million football managers opinions over your any day

Yet more nonsense.

Some keepers get dropped at this point, some would have been dropped after Stoke and others might play until Christmas. Neither you or I are in a position to second guess Brian McDermott but hey! This got you 3 more comedy posts en route to 13,000. Who needs a life and a keyboard

[SCIAG]

Exactly. It really isn't rocket.

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I don't know what Federici is feeling like after last night. If he hasn't regained his confidence by the time Brian picks the team for our next match, I'd like McCarthy to play. If being dropped is going to wreck Feds' confidence, it will wreck it whenever he is dropped, and we cannot afford to go on too long picking him if he keeps making mistakes.

If Feds plays, I will give him my full support, as I always do to every Reading player (except Mills).

[Victor Meldrew]

It looks as though QPR aren't hanging around and wondering if Rob Green (a full England international)will be upset by being dropped.
Incidentally I believe that keeper is the one position where Prem. league lack of experience doesn't count much,nothing like the position over an outfield player.
Also somebody also made the point that Federici has very little Prem. experience.

[Rex]

Well if reports are correct about Federici 'stormed' off the pitch then i would hope that this was as a result of his own frustrations in himself rather than those within the crowd booing him. We had the same issues last season in exactly the same fixture. Heart to heart time possibly with Sal / Brian, but i would expect this situation to be after a considered assessment on performance and mindset.

[RoyalJames101]

What he didn't deserve after 2 very good seasons in a row and being an integral part of a Championship-winning side last season was a large and vocal section of absolute helmets singing Alex McCarthy's name after the admittedly quite appaling piece of goalkeeping for 1-2. In fairness it was then drowned out by an even more vocal rendition of Federici's name but it was quite unecessary to be honest.

+1. He hasn't made a great start to the season and he'll be the first to admit that, but chanting McCarthy's name is just lolzworthy.

If you don't like Federici, fine, just don't be a mong about it.

[LoyalRoyalFan]

Same people reading out the same lines over and over again.

'He was the best keeper in the Championship last season'

Well, we might be in the Championship next season if he continues to make mistakes.

[Royal With Cheese]

If you don't like Federici, fine, just don't be a mong about it.

That's the problem - a significant minority of our support are just that, mongs with the intellectual capacity of cottage cheese. It's a cross we've had to bear for generations.